A Texas judge grants a pregnant woman permission to get an abortion despite the state’s ban

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

You know I’m anti abortion. I said so back on an early page of this thread . My opinion about abortion has nothing to do with this thread. I can keep my feelings separate of the facts.

That judge was wrong.
The Supreme Court stated that in their decision.
I think she’s a rotten activist judge, as I also stated before.

So now when a judge follows the law to the letter they are activist judges?

To the letter? lol
That judges ‘decision’ was only based on Kate’s petition(opinion) and not the actual court case(fact).
The Supreme Court saw right through it.
That’s why I think she’s an activist hack. She’s shady.

You seem naive to me in the workings of political and religious agenda-based people using their power.

You said that activist judge followed the law to a T. She absolutely did not. Who’s the naive one?
She was slapped down by the Supreme court for it.

The AG, Ken Paxon, is a menace to society and has a religious agenda that is polluting not only his mind and morals but the legal system.

I think he’s a crooked fool and should have lost his job in that corruption scandal but whatever.
As far as this case goes, he did his job and protected the will of the people in Texas.

The only thing he protected was the extremist Christian agenda in that state as for protecting women, not at all.

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

Well, this woman paved the way in warning other women in similar emergency health crisis situations that they should just go out of state at the outset of issues such as these.

Just insane. Purely insane.

That anyone thinks they have the right to legislate a woman's autonomy. And then have a public vote on it.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Is what it seems to me sometimes.

There are more women than men in the USA.

Unfortunately, many of them still believe they were made from a man's rib.

It's that old thing again, Christian extremist patriarchial systemic dysfunction. It's always those old white Christian self-proclaimed self-righteous men in seats of great power.

Why is it always the Christian’s?
There are plenty of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and women who are pro life.
Your bias is showing.

I am pro-life and pro-human rights, so your bias is showing.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

Well, this woman paved the way in warning other women in similar emergency health crisis situations that they should just go out of state at the outset of issues such as these.

Just insane. Purely insane.

That anyone thinks they have the right to legislate a woman's autonomy. And then have a public vote on it.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Is what it seems to me sometimes.

There are more women than men in the USA.

Unfortunately, many of them still believe they were made from a man's rib.

It's that old thing again, Christian extremist patriarchial systemic dysfunction. It's always those old white Christian self-proclaimed self-righteous men in seats of great power.

Why is it always the Christian’s?
There are plenty of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and women who are pro life.
Your bias is showing.

I am pro-life and pro-human rights, so your bias is showing.

I am Pro LIVING CHILDREN.

Once out of the shoot: Congress made school meals free for 2 years. Now, Republicans don't want to extend the program.

a reply to: tanstaafl

And what - exactly - does the law say?

Which law? I'm not sure of your question.

However, the doctor invoked federal law, using the legal term "good faith" and her "best judgement", which is what the federal law requires to satisfy her legal liability.

Texas requires a doctor to use the legal term "reasonable medical judgement" to claim an exemption of the Texas abortion law. But, the Texas law doesn't protect the doctor, the medical team or the hospital, from prosecution or vigilante lawsuits, if someone later disagrees with the doctor's reasonable medical judgement.

The high court rejected the use of "good faith" in lieu of "reasonable medical judgment". It denied the abortion qualified for exemption because of the lack of the proper wording "reasonable medical judgement".

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

Well, this woman paved the way in warning other women in similar emergency health crisis situations that they should just go out of state at the outset of issues such as these.

Just insane. Purely insane.

That anyone thinks they have the right to legislate a woman's autonomy. And then have a public vote on it.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Is what it seems to me sometimes.

There are more women than men in the USA.

Unfortunately, many of them still believe they were made from a man's rib.

It's that old thing again, Christian extremist patriarchial systemic dysfunction. It's always those old white Christian self-proclaimed self-righteous men in seats of great power.

Why is it always the Christian’s?
There are plenty of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and women who are pro life.
Your bias is showing.

I am pro-life and pro-human rights, so your bias is showing.

I am Pro LIVING CHILDREN.

Once out of the shoot: Congress made school meals free for 2 years. Now, Republicans don't want to extend the program.

It's a travesty how they allow children to go hungry and deny women the health care they need.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

Well, this woman paved the way in warning other women in similar emergency health crisis situations that they should just go out of state at the outset of issues such as these.

Just insane. Purely insane.

That anyone thinks they have the right to legislate a woman's autonomy. And then have a public vote on it.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Is what it seems to me sometimes.

There are more women than men in the USA.

Unfortunately, many of them still believe they were made from a man's rib.

It's that old thing again, Christian extremist patriarchial systemic dysfunction. It's always those old white Christian self-proclaimed self-righteous men in seats of great power.

Why is it always the Christian’s?
There are plenty of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and women who are pro life.
Your bias is showing.

I am pro-life and pro-human rights, so your bias is showing.

I am Pro LIVING CHILDREN.

Once out of the shoot: Congress made school meals free for 2 years. Now, Republicans don't want to extend the program.

It's a travesty how they allow children to go hungry and deny women the health care they need.

Money & God

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

Well, this woman paved the way in warning other women in similar emergency health crisis situations that they should just go out of state at the outset of issues such as these.

Just insane. Purely insane.

That anyone thinks they have the right to legislate a woman's autonomy. And then have a public vote on it.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Is what it seems to me sometimes.

There are more women than men in the USA.

Unfortunately, many of them still believe they were made from a man's rib.

It's that old thing again, Christian extremist patriarchial systemic dysfunction. It's always those old white Christian self-proclaimed self-righteous men in seats of great power.

Why is it always the Christian’s?
There are plenty of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and women who are pro life.
Your bias is showing.

I am pro-life and pro-human rights, so your bias is showing.

I am Pro LIVING CHILDREN.

Once out of the shoot: Congress made school meals free for 2 years. Now, Republicans don't want to extend the program.

It's a travesty how they allow children to go hungry and deny women the health care they need.

Money & God

Control and power.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

Well, this woman paved the way in warning other women in similar emergency health crisis situations that they should just go out of state at the outset of issues such as these.

Just insane. Purely insane.

That anyone thinks they have the right to legislate a woman's autonomy. And then have a public vote on it.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Is what it seems to me sometimes.

There are more women than men in the USA.

Unfortunately, many of them still believe they were made from a man's rib.

It's that old thing again, Christian extremist patriarchial systemic dysfunction. It's always those old white Christian self-proclaimed self-righteous men in seats of great power.

Why is it always the Christian’s?
There are plenty of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and women who are pro life.
Your bias is showing.

I am pro-life and pro-human rights, so your bias is showing.

I am Pro LIVING CHILDREN.

Once out of the shoot: Congress made school meals free for 2 years. Now, Republicans don't want to extend the program.

It's a travesty how they allow children to go hungry and deny women the health care they need.

Money & God

Control and power.

That's exactly it.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

Well, this woman paved the way in warning other women in similar emergency health crisis situations that they should just go out of state at the outset of issues such as these.

Just insane. Purely insane.

That anyone thinks they have the right to legislate a woman's autonomy. And then have a public vote on it.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Is what it seems to me sometimes.

There are more women than men in the USA.

Unfortunately, many of them still believe they were made from a man's rib.

It's that old thing again, Christian extremist patriarchial systemic dysfunction. It's always those old white Christian self-proclaimed self-righteous men in seats of great power.

Why is it always the Christian’s?
There are plenty of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and women who are pro life.
Your bias is showing.

I am pro-life and pro-human rights, so your bias is showing.

I am Pro LIVING CHILDREN.

Once out of the shoot: Congress made school meals free for 2 years. Now, Republicans don't want to extend the program.

It's a travesty how they allow children to go hungry and deny women the health care they need.

Money & God

Control and power.

That's exactly it.

Don't I know it, having been indoctrinated into the Catholic faith from the late 50s onwards.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

Well, this woman paved the way in warning other women in similar emergency health crisis situations that they should just go out of state at the outset of issues such as these.

Just insane. Purely insane.

That anyone thinks they have the right to legislate a woman's autonomy. And then have a public vote on it.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Is what it seems to me sometimes.

There are more women than men in the USA.

Unfortunately, many of them still believe they were made from a man's rib.

It's that old thing again, Christian extremist patriarchial systemic dysfunction. It's always those old white Christian self-proclaimed self-righteous men in seats of great power.

Why is it always the Christian’s?
There are plenty of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and women who are pro life.
Your bias is showing.

I am pro-life and pro-human rights, so your bias is showing.

I am Pro LIVING CHILDREN.

Once out of the shoot: Congress made school meals free for 2 years. Now, Republicans don't want to extend the program.

It's a travesty how they allow children to go hungry and deny women the health care they need.

Money & God

Control and power.

That's exactly it.

Don't I know it, having been indoctrinated into the Catholic faith from the late 50s onwards.

My gramma tried. My parents said NO!

My parents couldn't get married in the Catholic church because my dad refused to sign papers we'd be raised Catholic.

Sometimes my gramma did take me. When I was about 5, I stood up on the pew bench -- looked around at all the ornateness -- and stated, "Does God really need all this?" LOL. My gramma was mortified.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

The Texas judge who approved the abortion was wrong.

So, you’re anti abortion.

And don’t like the one judges decision.

Well, this woman paved the way in warning other women in similar emergency health crisis situations that they should just go out of state at the outset of issues such as these.

Just insane. Purely insane.

That anyone thinks they have the right to legislate a woman's autonomy. And then have a public vote on it.

Two steps forward, three steps back. Is what it seems to me sometimes.

There are more women than men in the USA.

Unfortunately, many of them still believe they were made from a man's rib.

It's that old thing again, Christian extremist patriarchial systemic dysfunction. It's always those old white Christian self-proclaimed self-righteous men in seats of great power.

Why is it always the Christian’s?
There are plenty of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and women who are pro life.
Your bias is showing.

I am pro-life and pro-human rights, so your bias is showing.

I am Pro LIVING CHILDREN.

Once out of the shoot: Congress made school meals free for 2 years. Now, Republicans don't want to extend the program.

It's a travesty how they allow children to go hungry and deny women the health care they need.

Money & God

Control and power.

That's exactly it.

Don't I know it, having been indoctrinated into the Catholic faith from the late 50s onwards.

My gramma tried. My parents said NO!

My parents couldn't get married in the Catholic church because my dad refused to sign papers we'd be raised Catholic.

Sometimes my gramma did take me. When I was about 5, I stood up on the pew bench -- looked around at all the ornateness -- and stated, "Does God really need all this?" LOL. My gramma was mortified.

If not for those ornate stained glass windows I would have gone stark raving mad.

originally posted by: Annee
Where is the F-up?

Do you read just one line.... Most abortions are due to a F'ed up situation. In my post that you commented on I said in the case of the OP... so different. out of 6 million pregnancies in the US each year half are unintended. That is a lot of unwanted pregnancies due to f'ups.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Are you saying that you believe that there exists no constitutional right to fight for one's life against disease and medical related threats? Careful, that's a slippery slope.

I'm talking about the right to use lethal force to defend life and limb. That's the legal standard for self-defense. If the threat is an embryo or a fetus that's putting life and/or limb at risk, then taking up arms is called for, even if those arms are medically specific tools.

OK, so what? Stupid argument... We can say cancer too, or anything else... Go to court with your argument...

We already see there is more to this case than just the narrow view the OP put forth.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Where is the F-up?

Do you read just one line.... Most abortions are due to a F'ed up situation. In my post that you commented on I said in the case of the OP... so different. out of 6 million pregnancies in the US each year half are unintended. That is a lot of unwanted pregnancies due to f'ups.

Again, any mammal can procreate. No brain power required. And they don't read the Bible.

How many pregnancies do you think are planned?

I support LIVING CHILDREN -- not the unwanted.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Where is the F-up?

Do you read just one line.... Most abortions are due to a F'ed up situation. In my post that you commented on I said in the case of the OP... so different. out of 6 million pregnancies in the US each year half are unintended. That is a lot of unwanted pregnancies due to f'ups.

Again, any mammal can procreate. No brain power required. And they don't read the Bible.

How many pregnancies do you think are planned?

I support LIVING CHILDREN -- not the unwanted.

People will be people when it comes to making mistakes, so there needs to be a safety net in place where one mistake does not ruin someone's health, happiness or freedom.

a reply to: Xtrozero

OK, so what? Stupid argument...

Okay. So, instead of agreeing that women's lives are protected from life threating pregnancies through the 2nd Amendment, you're telling me that Texas is being super generous and altruistic for even allowing an abortion exception if a woman's life is at risk, seeing as she has no constitutional right.

We see you!

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Where is the F-up?

Do you read just one line.... Most abortions are due to a F'ed up situation. In my post that you commented on I said in the case of the OP... so different. out of 6 million pregnancies in the US each year half are unintended. That is a lot of unwanted pregnancies due to f'ups.

Again, any mammal can procreate. No brain power required. And they don't read the Bible.

How many pregnancies do you think are planned?

I support LIVING CHILDREN -- not the unwanted.

People will be people when it comes to making mistakes, so there needs to be a safety net in place where one mistake does not ruin someone's health, happiness or freedom.

Yes.

I was divorcing my husband because he was jealous of his own children, and it was beginning to affect them psychologically.

But we'd been together 10 years. Lots of emotions. We had a "cry night". I was on the pill but threw it up.

I chose my LIVING CHILDREN over an accident.

Last think I needed was to bring another child into this situation.

I prefer to have productive members of society.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
Where is the F-up?

Do you read just one line.... Most abortions are due to a F'ed up situation. In my post that you commented on I said in the case of the OP... so different. out of 6 million pregnancies in the US each year half are unintended. That is a lot of unwanted pregnancies due to f'ups.

Again, any mammal can procreate. No brain power required. And they don't read the Bible.

How many pregnancies do you think are planned?

I support LIVING CHILDREN -- not the unwanted.

People will be people when it comes to making mistakes, so there needs to be a safety net in place where one mistake does not ruin someone's health, happiness or freedom.

Yes.

I was divorcing my husband because he was jealous of his own children, and it was beginning to affect them psychologically.

But we'd been together 10 years. Lots of emotions. We had a "cry night". I was on the pill but threw it up.

I chose my LIVING CHILDREN over an accident.

Last think I needed was to bring another child into this situation.

I prefer to have productive members of society.

There are many life experiences such as your where the health and welfare of the existing children and family need to come first and measures should be put in place where a woman, her children and her family can live the best quality of life possible for all concerned.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Okay. So, instead of agreeing that women's lives are protected from life threating pregnancies through the 2nd Amendment, you're telling me that Texas is being super generous and altruistic for even allowing an abortion exception if a woman's life is at risk, seeing as she has no constitutional right.

We see you!

No, I just see your argument as stupid. I have also said like 5 times I disagree with the law in Texas. As I said before you argue just to argue.

And you "see me"??? Hopefully I won't see you... lol

originally posted by: Annee

How many pregnancies do you think are planned?

I support LIVING CHILDREN -- not the unwanted.

Well if half of 6 million are unplanned then half are planned... hard math I know....

Do you realize if you let unwanted children live then they are living children too...

I wonder if we could take a poll and poll aborted children and ask them if they are better off dead than to live... I wonder what the results would be.

AND ANNEE stop with this crazy oh I chose a better life for my children and had an abortion mentality. We live in America, not Africa where life-and-death situations really exist.

If you had that 3rd baby they would have had just as much chance to do well in life as any other kid. It's not like you have just enough food for 2 kids so one will need to go situation. Who knows, they might have been a Harvard grad today with all kinds of love for their mother who worked hard to make their life at least...life.