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originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: FarmerSimulation
Sure but he only said this AFTER he was put in charge of the records at MAL. He, nor Trump ever mentioned any other docs in 18 months after he left office. He was not put in charge of any records that sit with the current administration.
But ok, he and Trump were going to work with the current administration to declassify records. That makes sense.
You do know when he was President the only thing that requires additional approval is anything that falls under the Atomic Energy Act. Now certainly some classified records require redactions, which he was well aware of, as he agreed to the redactions in the Crossfire Hurricane docs, which is well documented online. We would as those docs do, have the approval to declassify from Trump certainly noted.
So again, you think he had no classified docs he hid from the subpoena and he and Kash were going to work on getting docs Declassified with the Biden Administration apparently.
Guess we have to wait for the trial.
a reply to: Mahogani
In other words, he was at a rally, campaigning,
Exactly...protected speech.
Say trump was being political solely. Who can tell him he wasnt? No one. Congress does not reside above the potus, not does the judiciary.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI
a reply to: Mahogani
In other words, he was at a rally, campaigning,
Exactly...protected speech.
Not the issue. The issue is whether or not his "speech" was compelled by his oath of office, The President of the United States. The courts says it wasn't. It was speech on behalf of candidate Donald Trump, the private individual, not the actions of The President of the United States executing his duty to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States
In fact, Trump called for the suspension of the Constitution!
originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: JinMI
No. He doesn't. The President isn't a king. The legislative and judicial branches are there to put a curb on the President's power.
The judicial is the lowest of the 3 branches of government.
The House CREATED the Judicial Branch.
The created can never be greater than the creator
The Constitution of the United States divides the federal government into three branches: legislative, executive, and judicial. This ensures that no individual or group will have too much power.
Legislative branch
Executive branch
Judicial branch
The judicial branch includes the Supreme Court and other federal courts.
It evaluates laws by:
Interpreting the meaning of laws
Applying laws to individual cases
Deciding if laws violate the Constitution
The Constitution: What Does it Say? | National Archives
Article I assigns the responsibility for making laws to the Legislative Branch
Article II details the Executive Branch and the offices of the President
Article III establishes the Judicial Branch with the U.S. Supreme Court
How was Trump a "Candidate" when the election he lost was 2 months before?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: WingDingLuey
How was Trump a "Candidate" when the election he lost was 2 months before?
His "Stop the Steal" rally was a campaign rally. He thought the election wasn't over until Mike Pence counted the electoral votes. His rally meant to use the crowd's protests to encourage Pence and member of Congress to "Stop the Count" and undo the election. In fact, Trump never stopped campaigning.
How can they prove what he was thinking?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: WingDingLuey
How can they prove what he was thinking?
They don't have to. They just have to present his own words, that day and the days leading up to the and 6th events. People who have already been convicted of crimes they committed that day, testified that it was Trump's words that invited them, brought them there to the Capitol, and incited them to do what they did. And, when Trump told them to leave, they left.
originally posted by: WingDingLuey
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: WingDingLuey
How was Trump a "Candidate" when the election he lost was 2 months before?
His "Stop the Steal" rally was a campaign rally. He thought the election wasn't over until Mike Pence counted the electoral votes. His rally meant to use the crowd's protests to encourage Pence and member of Congress to "Stop the Count" and undo the election. In fact, Trump never stopped campaigning.
How can they prove what he was thinking?
And "Campaigning" was over 2 months earlier. 😀
Next they'll want crystal ball and tarot card evidence 🤣🤣
You and yours can surly provide some actual quotes that led to "convictions" right.
Even so, that does not prove intent, only hearsay and assumptive from 3rd parties.
originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: FarmerSimulation
Ohhh sure, ok. Weirdly Trump has never mentioned he declassified docs regarding a body double for Bin Laden, etc. I'm sure he'll tell us all about that soon. Maybe when JFK Jr shows up.
originally posted by: frogs453
Pam Hemphill the "grandma" that the RW pundits like to use an example stated if she can find a lawyer she will sue. She likens what happened to her when she started going to Maga women events is like a "cult". They love bombed her, made her feel "a part of something big", then pushed all the theories of the President. She felt the President needed her to come on J6, and riled up the crowd at the rally. She fully accepts responsibility for her actions and feels guilt about falling for all the lies and gaslighting. She is currently vilified on social media by other "Patriots" for speaking out on her experience.