Israeli Politician admits 12,000 Palestinians have died so far but... they're mostly terrorists!

a reply to: FlyersFan

Again,

From your post genocide includes actions intended to cause great bodily harm or lead to the destruction of a group.

It appears that is exactly what Israel is doing.

Why did they cut off the water? Was Hamas using water as weapons?

Read your history. Genocide is often done in steps.

Take away food, water, medical care and shelter and you will kill the population.

That's exactly what Israel is doing.

a reply to: FlyersFan

That anti-semitic card is so convenient to throw around, do you have it in your back pocket?

Netanyahu and his government have to go along with Hamas and all humanity needs to step up in solidarity to end this conflict for good with peace agreements not endless violence.

a reply to: quintessentone

BBC News - Thousands march against antisemitism in London
www.bbc.co.uk...


60,000 march against anti-Semitism in London.

Are they playing that card, too?

originally posted by: Daughter2v2

Things like this are done in steps.

From Israel's actions, it looks like they are going for slow deaths from lack of food, water and medical care.

That is a lot of assumptions as people push this propaganda as reality even before the bodies in Israel were cold. I think you all need to wait and see where this ends up before making a bunch of hyperbolic statements that really do not strengthen one's argument. If anything it weakens them as people just stop listening, kind of a Chicken Little event.

Israel is creating a mass genocide event in Gaza!!!!!!!!

With like 2.5 million there were are the initial 100,000s dead for this to happen?

They will though slow deaths....

OK, got ya....

originally posted by: quintessentone

That anti-semitic card is so convenient to throw around, do you have it in your back pocket?

I like to call it anti-Israel for whatever reason people think. If not then why didn't they protest in the 100,000s in London for 400,000+ civilians killed in Yemen? I guess real genocide is OK when it is Muslim on Muslim, and many protesting Israel most likely approve of what is going on right now in Yemen.

Ten stages of genocide - it doesn't happen all at once. Massacres start happening right before total extermination.

The stages are:

Classification – The differences between people are not respected. There’s a division of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which can be carried out using stereotypes, or excluding people who are perceived to be different.

Symbolisation – This is a visual manifestation of hatred. Jews in Nazi Europe were forced to wear yellow stars to show that they were ‘different’.

Discrimination – The dominant group denies civil rights or even citizenship to identified groups. The 1935 Nuremberg Laws stripped Jews of their German citizenship, made it illegal for them to do many jobs or to marry German non-Jews.

Dehumanisation – Those perceived as ‘different’ are treated with no form of human rights or personal dignity. During the Genocide against the Tutsi in Rwanda, Tutsis were referred to as ‘cockroaches’; the Nazis referred to Jews as ‘vermin’.

Organisation – Genocides are always planned. Regimes of hatred often train those who go on to carry out the destruction of a people.

Polarisation – Propaganda begins to be spread by hate groups. The Nazis used the newspaper Der Stürmer to spread and incite messages of hate about Jewish people.

Preparation – Perpetrators plan the genocide. They often use euphemisms such as the Nazis’ phrase ‘The Final Solution’ to cloak their intentions. They create fear of the victim group, building up armies and weapons.

Persecution – Victims are identified because of their ethnicity or religion and death lists are drawn up. People are sometimes segregated into ghettos, deported or starved and property is often expropriated. Genocidal massacres begin.

Extermination – The hate group murders their identified victims in a deliberate and systematic campaign of violence. Millions of lives have been destroyed or changed beyond recognition through genocide.

Denial – The perpetrators or later generations deny the existence of any crime.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

That anti-semitic card is so convenient to throw around, do you have it in your back pocket?

I like to call it anti-Israel for whatever reason people think. If not then why didn't they protest in the 100,000s in London for 400,000+ civilians killed in Yemen? I guess real genocide is OK when it is Muslim on Muslim, and many protesting Israel most likely approve of what is going on right now in Yemen.

I call it anti-Netanyahu's religious war wet dream, the guy has to go.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
Ten stages of genocide - it doesn't happen all at once:

BTW what ethnic group are they to suggest genocide?

From genocide watch:

"They indoctrinate the populace with fear of the victim group. Leaders often claim that “if we don’t kill them, they will kill us,” disguising genocide as self-defense. Acts of genocide are disguised as counter-insurgency if there is an ongoing armed conflict or civil war. There is a sudden increase in inflammatory rhetoric and hate propaganda with the objective of creating fear of the other group. Political processes such as peace accords that threaten the total dominance of the genocidal group or upcoming elections that may cost them their grip on total power may actually trigger genocide."

"Sometimes they are even segregated into ghettoes, deported into concentration camps, or confined to a famine-struck region and starved. They are deliberately deprived of resources such as water or food in order to slowly destroy them. "

a reply to: quintessentone

He is a democratically elected leader. It's rather up to Israeli voters.

originally posted by: quintessentone

I call it anti-Netanyahu's religious war wet dream, the guy has to go.

You didn't answer my question, but so does Biden... life's a bitch in a democracy. Maybe they will vote him out...BTW who votes out Hamas, no one... That is why they need to go.

So let's do both...win win right? I have no love for Netanyahu, so I really don't care if he is removed.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

He is a democratically elected leader. It's rather up to Israeli voters.

It may end up being up to the Arab nations to decide that if he continues on his special brand of crusades.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
Leaders often claim that “if we don’t kill them, they will kill us,” disguising genocide as self-defense.

This is kind of funny...Is Israel saying it or is Hamas saying they want all Jews dead while a good percentage in Gaza cheers it on?

Or, are we mistaken here....

a reply to: quintessentone

Regime change is cool, now?

What "crusades"?

a reply to: FlyersFan

That's because there is no 'gaza health ministry' ... that's just a fancy word for HAMAS.

i agree,

another thing there are reports of Hamas and "Resistance Security" killing two in one town and one in another in the west bank for being informers.


again for those left leaners, left leaning sources just above fish wrapper

The men, whom Israeli media disclosed as 31-year-old Hamza Mabarech and 29-year-old Azzam Joabra, were accused of being involved in the death of three Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorists earlier this month, according to the N12 new outlet.

Videos on social media appeared to show one man suspended from an electricity pylon and a second hanging upside down from a wall. A large crowd gathered to chant "Allahu Akbar," and many appear to be filming the bodies.

The self-proclaimed "Resistance Security" organization claimed responsibility for the executions by firing squad, emphasizing a zero-tolerance policy for informants or traitors, said reports.

Palestinian militants execute 2 alleged Israeli collaborators and publicly display their corpses on the West Bank, say reports

one of the articles i read on of their families were quick to disown the dead man.

The two men were accused of helping Israeli security forces target Hamas in a raid that killed three key terrorists earlier this month, a Palestinian security officer said.

Tulkarm Brigades statement said anyone who had been working with Israeli security services had until Dec 5 to come forward and repent.
The family of one of the accused informers sought to distance itself in a statement, calling its disgraced relative a “malicious finger that we have cut off without regret”.
“We affirm our complete innocence,” the family added, “and we won’t allow anyone to blame us for his guilt.”

‘Israel spies’ executed and hung from pylon by cheering West Bank mob

people need to think about just exactly who the pale's are those that claim to be a POS and those that run around cheering the death of their own who were accused and supposedly confessed after being what to appears to have been beaten out of them.

originally posted by: quintessentone

It may end up being up to the Arab nations to decide that if he continues on his special brand of crusades.

They do not have one ounce of care for those in Gaza. Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi all see them as deplorables (thanks Hillary). Even Iran does not care and their leadership are billionaires off of them and they do not care either. The sad part is only Israel and America have really done anything for them. Remember Israel removed 50,000 Jews from Gaza and said here you go it's all yours, and Hamas destroyed it all in their Jew hate fest.

Israel has solid economic and non-aggression packs with many of the Muslim countries there now too.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

Regime change is cool, now?

What "crusades"?

Which regime are you talking about?

As in religious crusade, as in Amalek, as in one of two violent scriptures quoted by Netanyahu.

Amalek was "the foe that God ordered the ancient Israelites to genocide", and scholars have described the verse as an instance of 'divinely mandated genocide'.

en.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=Amalek%20was%20%22the%20foe%20that,of%20'divinely%20mandated%20genocide'.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato

people need to think about just exactly who the pale's are those that claim to be a POS and those that run around cheering the death of their own who were accused and supposedly confessed after being what to appears to have been beaten out of them.

Just like our crazy Liberals, they all tend to eat their own in the end.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
From genocide watch:

"They indoctrinate the populace with fear of the victim group. Leaders often claim that “if we don’t kill them, they will kill us,” disguising genocide as self-defense. Acts of genocide are disguised as counter-insurgency if there is an ongoing armed conflict or civil war. There is a sudden increase in inflammatory rhetoric and hate propaganda with the objective of creating fear of the other group. Political processes such as peace accords that threaten the total dominance of the genocidal group or upcoming elections that may cost them their grip on total power may actually trigger genocide."

"Sometimes they are even segregated into ghettoes, deported into concentration camps, or confined to a famine-struck region and starved. They are deliberately deprived of resources such as water or food in order to slowly destroy them. "

Those exact acts have taken place by Israel zionist leaders against the Palestinian civilians and there is no getting around those facts.

a reply to: quintessentone

Netanyahu? Who you wanted to go?

"Crusades", as in plural?