Are we on ATS to proselytize or learn?

BREAKING:

The police has been forced to evacuate Jewish students from a building of University of California San Diego
@ucsandiego
where they had gathered to discuss antisemitic threats.

Swiftly, a large and threatening anti-Israeli mob gathered in front of the building

a reply to: WingDingLuey

If the Jewish students are in danger of a mob, why arent members of the mob arrested?

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
BREAKING:

The police has been forced to evacuate Jewish students from a building of University of California San Diego
@ucsandiego
where they had gathered to discuss antisemitic threats.

Swiftly, a large and threatening anti-Israeli mob gathered in front of the building

This makes me sick.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: WingDingLuey

If the Jewish students are in danger of a mob, why arent members of the mob arrested?

Can't arrest "the mob", there are probably teachers and politicians in the group threatening the Jewish students.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Im just so startled by these events. What happened to all the attacks on conservatives and Christians about hate crimes, racism and fear of 'others'?

2 billion Christians, almost 2 billion Muslims, a billion non-religious, and 20 million Jews.

Who is the threatened minority group?

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
BREAKING:

The police has been forced to evacuate Jewish students from a building of University of California San Diego
@ucsandiego
where they had gathered to discuss antisemitic threats.

Swiftly, a large and threatening anti-Israeli mob gathered in front of the building

Good news!

It didn't happen. Don't know why they picked UCSD, but nothing on local news either.

twitter.com...

UCSD, and that entire area (University City) are where The JCC is located, as well as several Synagogues. They would try to intimidate jews at UCSD (UTC/La Jolla) at their own peril.

a reply to: abcdgoldfish

Explanation: Proselytize? Learn?

Neither!!!

This forum is purely about beating the shyte out of each others egos with PROPAGANDA!!!

Personal Disclosure: Its purely about Arguing WHO is right, NOT about debating WHAT is right ok!

Fourth, if someone is confident in equating all Palestinians with Hamas, let’s also include all Germans as Nazis, all Americans as White Nationalists. (If you as an American haven’t done anything to stop White Nationalism, even if you don’t participate in it, you must support it, right?)

If you insist on perpetuating these ideas, I conclude that you:

1) either don’t know some of the things I’m referring to above, or you
2) you don’t care to speak the truth or
3) you are actively engaged in trying to rile people up with false and/or misleading information.

If you fall in the first category, you can research and learn more about the situation. (No I’m not going to recommend the any favorite books or anything. Read broadly, and draw your own conclusions).

If you fall into the second or third categories, may I respectfully ask you to do your business elsewhere?

I am a solipsist first and foremost ... hence you dont exist!

Silopsism [wiki]

Solipsism (/ˈsɒlɪpsɪzəm/ ⓘ SOLL-ip-siz-əm; from Latin solus 'alone', and ipse 'self')[1] is the philosophical idea that only one's mind is sure to exist. As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.

You Don’t Exist – according to David Hume



But if I am mistaken and you do exist ... then I am a Timonist and you're and most others are monsters just like me ... I am not human [we have standards for what it IS to BE Human ok] ... and MONSTERS HAVE NO RIGHTS!

Timonism [wiki]

Cynicism is often contrasted with "Timonism" (cf. Shakespeare's Timon of Athens). Cynics saw what people could be & were angered by what they had become; Timonists felt people were hopelessly stupid & uncaring by nature & so saw no hope for change.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Article 1 All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Endowed with expressedly means we can test people for possessing these two properties ...

Reason = Being rational and Logical!

Conscience = Knowing all right from all wrongs and being completely SELFLESS not selfish!

I sense a lot of cynicism in your post and I suggest strongly that you curb your anger as its shows you are not being DISPASSIONATE about this issue and that you are letting your bleeding heart liberal ass show and it stinks. :stop:

Anger is a kind of MADNESS!

Anger makes you dumber. It makes you a worse leader, a worse decision-maker.

This is why Seneca wrote his On Anger to Nero. He didn’t think an emperor could afford to be ruled by his passions. “I tell you that anger is a kind of madness,” he wrote. A recent research study conducted and published by psychologist Michael Greenstein proves it.

According to the study, angry people were not only more susceptible to misinformation. They were more likely to use that misinformation to guide their decision-making and actions. Information and confidence, traditionally correlated, followed an opposite trajectory in angry people. As angry people got more false information, they became more confident.

Angry people, unknowingly, confuse their heightened state of emotion for heightened cognitive capabilities. They think their mind is alert, aware, firing on all cylinders. People after a few cocktails do too, but Greenstein implies that the angry-inhibited are more at risk than the alcohol-inhibited. Alcohol impairs memory. Anger gives you false memories.

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” - Yoda

What do you fear and why do you hate people being wrong eh?

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.” ― Frank Herbert, Dune

FYI I have the right to be wrong and to spread that wrongness as far and as wide as possible ok!

IF you disagree we can have a WAR ok!



Because it is eternal war on everyone and everything everywhere all of the time as kinetic war is just political warfare by other means and political warfare is just economic warfare by other means.

Every time you spend a penny that is economic warfare and every time you vote that is political warfare!

What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. - Thomas Jefferson

So you're not BLAMELESS and you possess no moral high ground!

All those people who died were going to die anyway ok. At least they died for some cause they believed in eh!

What are you willing to kill and die for ... OR are you a coward?

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
BREAKING:

The police has been forced to evacuate Jewish students from a building of University of California San Diego
@ucsandiego
where they had gathered to discuss antisemitic threats.

Swiftly, a large and threatening anti-Israeli mob gathered in front of the building

I live here.

Do you have a link for that ?

a reply to: whyamIhere

Click on the post, the entire thing is a link..

a reply to: WingDingLuey

today.ucsd.edu...

Statement from UCSD.

Apparently there was an inaccurate post on X.

originally posted by: abcdgoldfish
For future reference X, “Great One” should be capitalized. Please follow that convention in future posts, lest…well you get the picture.

I shouldn’t have said “speak the truth” I should have said “stop promoting false equivalences.”

I just wish people would stop exaggerating or overstating their truth in every post they make. hyperbolic language is just over the top everywhere.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: WingDingLuey

today.ucsd.edu...

Statement from UCSD.

Apparently there was an inaccurate post on X.

Don't know what it sadder, that we reacted with shock and disgust or that it was only a few of us that did.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Had that been an actual event, I'd be first to be disgusted by it. While there are a LOT of jews at UCSD, there aren't enough angry Muslims for that many to amass last minute.

Our antisemitic protestors picked 5th/Laurel to do their thing. Because all the jews are in "Banker's Hill" in their minds.

San Diego County is diverse.

We have 120,000 Muslims, but also 100,000 Jews.

There's a suburb called Poway, with a large Jewish population. Also the site of this, yet that didn't stop some Muslims from going around putting Nazi-styled propaganda fliers on cars in affluent neighborhoods with a substantial Jewish population.

www.sandiegouniontribune.com...

They are dogs, the ones that need to intimidate

palestinians aren't semites, they are Arabs that lived where semetic peoples used to, Jews left because Islamic oppression, slavery, genocide,etc, they came back only because the west wanted to reclaim what the Muslims stole from us and jerusalem was within our reach at that moment, anatolia and such are too populated to use the same strategy to gain control over them and reconvert them to orthodox and zoroastrian, the end goal is to reclaim the whole middle east for the west and drive out Islam. you didn't think we've been in the region just for oil did you? or that the chaos after we mostly left iraq was an accident? or the handing over afghanistan to the taliban? its all intentional and every one of those situations benefited us even though they are all seen as "failures" on the surface by many people.


taliban hate iran as much as we do and are effective against isis and suppressing illegal opium production, its just revisiting why we supported them originally after the Soviet union left, also they hate communists as much as we do so that's a big plus.

a reply to: abcdgoldfish

I am here because once I had finally beat the game Diablo II in hardcore, I got bored with life.

Between 2002-2013 I did actually research the how and why of Zionism and the take over of American Evangelical thinking by Zionism in the U.S. Then just gave up because the Zionist propaganda was so completely imbedded in U.S. psyche that it seemed quite unbeatable. The so-called Jewish State of Israel seemed to be an unstoppable juggernaut, futile to stand up against.

But anyway:

Israelis Are Not 'Indigenous' (and other ridiculous pro-Israel arguments)

a reply to: FullHeathen

Between 2002-2013 I did actually research the how and why of Zionism and the take over of American Evangelical thinking by Zionism in the U.S. Then just gave up because the Zionist propaganda was so completely imbedded in U.S. psyche that it seemed quite unbeatable. The so-called Jewish State of Israel seemed to be an unstoppable juggernaut, futile to stand up against.

Not indigenous ≠ colonizers

Blame the British Mandate.
Blame Ottoman Turks losing WWI.

A lot of the why with Israel goes unspoken in my opinion.

I think it's about forcibly preventing Islam from completely controlling The Temple Mount. In esoteric "illuminati" terms, there's a checkerboard underneath the Dome of Rock.

The establishment of Israel is more or less an excuse to make sure Non-muslim interests partly control the holiest place on earth. It's like the Jewish and Christian Mecca, after all. And before Mandatory Palestine it was part of a Caliphate. Sure it's about an Israel homeland, but the reason there's so much support is aligned interests.

The mountain was partially taken away from Mohammed, quite purposefully. Now Israel has their own Manifest Destiny. Only they can say "jewish presence" dates back 1500 years longer than Muslim. 9th century BCE - 685 CE, with all the civilizations in between.

Caliphates really don't like giving things back though.
Maybe it's about making the Caliphate mindset have to this time?

Wow. That was a lot!
a reply to: OmegaLogos

Interesting. I do blame the British mandate. And I need to educate myself more about what happened. When it comes to making sure Muslims don’t have control of the Temple Mount, and the role of the Illuminati, I’m hesitant to explore this. I’m not one of Dan Brown’s protagonists. I feel that could become a black hole for me.

a reply to: Degradation33