Are we on ATS to proselytize or learn?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Right?!? German and Japanese citizens were literally targeted.

I feel like this is what we get when people try to rewrite history to fit their narrative of today.

a reply to: abcdgoldfish

Oh! I know! BOTH!

Its important for those who proselytize to learn themselves. Also as well for those learning to question and proselytize themselves.

originally posted by: TheValeyard
The ones who are here to proselytize, tend to be the most vocal.
The ones who are here to learn, tend to sit back and do a lot of lurking,
or will rebutt something with one comment then sit back and watch the replies.

The same tends to be true IRL.

That^^ only works if you never leave the house.

a reply to: TheDiscoKing

You didn't understand.
Yet you tried to contradict it.
Point proven.

The point wasn't that it "Works" or "doesn't work".
Intelligent people tend to listen more than they speak.
Just a fact of life.


Incidentally, for the purposes of having a deeper understanding of things than the other people who just talk talk talk,
listening DOES work.

originally posted by: abcdgoldfish
2) you don’t care to speak the truth or

Define truth...both Israel and Gaza see different truths. So, great one, speaketh the real truth so we can all learn...

a reply to: abcdgoldfish

You forgot to include a person can be against what the Israeli leaders are doing without being against Israel.

How the Israel government treats the Palestinians will never lead to long-term peace.

ahh Vermilion! I see you!
a reply to: VermiIion

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: abcdgoldfish


Fourth, if someone is confident in equating all Palestinians with Hamas, let’s also include all Germans as Nazis,

Didn't we do that in WWII?

No we didn't. Here is the link:www.jstor.org...

Even when the Japanese bombed pearl harbor, they waved away children on a playground.

Also, some people believed attempting to "punish" the German citizens for WWI help Hilter gain power.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: abcdgoldfish


Fourth, if someone is confident in equating all Palestinians with Hamas, let’s also include all Germans as Nazis,

Didn't we do that in WWII?

No we didn't. Here is the link:www.jstor.org...

Even when the Japanese bombed pearl harbor, they waved away children on a playground.

Also, some people believed attempting to "punish" the German citizens for WWI help Hilter gain power.

But we did.

We didn't differentiate.

Look at Dresden.

Then again, look at what the Nazi's were doing at the bombing of Britain.

They were all civilian centers.

Yes, this. to: Daughter2v2

I’ll take that. I don’t know why I ended with that. It’s a public forum and who am I to tell someone to go elsewhere… a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Although I’ve only been a “member” of ATS for a week now, I’ve visited a few times over the years. I have noticed that trend.
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

a reply to: DBCowboy

As for Dresden, that "officially" was supposed to be a military target but many people later claimed it was not.

But overall, the aim was not to kill all the Germans or to chase them out of Germany so the Austrians or Russians could move in.

It was to stop the military action.

In Gaza, there is no formal military.

For future reference X, “Great One” should be capitalized. Please follow that convention in future posts, lest…well you get the picture.

I shouldn’t have said “speak the truth” I should have said “stop promoting false equivalences.”

a reply to: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
a reply to: DBCowboy

As for Dresden, that "officially" was supposed to be a military target but many people later claimed it was not.

But overall, the aim was not to kill all the Germans or to chase them out of Germany so the Austrians or Russians could move in.

It was to stop the military action.

In Gaza, there is no formal military.

We needed Germany to surrender, not the Nazi Party.