Keir Starmer suffers major Labour rebellion over Gaza ceasefire vote

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

As is absolutely anyone who dares to hold a different opinion to yours, evidently.

According to you, that is.

More confirmation bias.

Cue more copy and pasted repetition?

Still there is zero evidence the Brits in their majorities want the continuation of this war are in favour of the the war. Literally no evidence at all. If you have any evidence at all then do post it. It has been over 5 weeks by the way.

uk.news.yahoo.com...

Huge majority oppose UK Government policy and support Israel/Hamas ceasefire -

Anything out there to support your claims?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Of no relevance in the real world

I'm pretty sure Carl would disagree, don't be too hard on yourself.

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: Leviathan4

But they need to believe 54 million Brits are with them on this? And Carpy's cat! Nothing happens without Carl's approval anyway.

You'd have to come up with your own puns if it wasn't for those cats, hijacking this thread for their bollocks.

And... with zero evidence in support of the claim that the majority of the Brits are in favour of the war. There is not a single piece of evidence that supports the claim.

On the topic of this thread. 125 MPs voted for an immediate ceasefire but the rest of the Labour MPs abstained which is troubling. I am sure many of them think the same way as the 125 MPs above but had to follow party politics.

a reply to: Insurrectile

I see that these threads are causing a lot of upset to those who support the mainstream narrative. It's so obvious.

Revolting MPs and a population that doesn't support the war in Gaza.

But we need to ask the cats and dogs first if they approve....

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I like cats but Mrs F thinks they're devil spawn.

I allow her these little pyrrhic victories more often than not just to keep up the illusion that she's the gaffer.

I saw an insta the other day. step by step gide to negotiating with your cat.

Step One, give the cat everything it wants.
Step Two, negotiation complete!

a reply to: SprocketUK

Like with Hamas, there can be no negotiation with Carl.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Insurrectile

Well, he just read your post, shook his head, farted and went back to 😴 sleep.

I have to admit that I do that as well.

a reply to: DBCowboy

"Human animals".

a reply to: DBCowboy

Bet you can't lick your bits, though?

Carl can.

Quickly back on topic, does it really matter what our MPs vote for, it's just gesture politics?

And opinion polls, based on tiny samples of the population polled?

"Do you like war, or would you prefer peace"?

Etc.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Just the experience of folk that actually live here who are not Radical Muslims or Israel phobic lefties?

It comes to something when you have to fall back to getting your jollies from lefties who support the transgender woke agenda.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Yes, Labour MPs are pretty revolting.

When you have to rely on lefties who support LBGTQ and the transgender thing then you must be getting desperate!

Upset?

You overestimate your self importance.


And, unlike us Brits, you are humourless.

I am afraid you are unable to appreciate the reality of the UK Politics and the massive revolt within the Labour Party over the war in Gaza.

The LGBTQ and Transgender issues have nothing to do with the war in Gaza or the false equivalency you are trying to create. It shows how desperate your arguments have become.

Still there is no evidence that the Brits are in favour of the war. On the other hand there is plenty of evidence that they are against it.

Huge majority oppose UK Government policy and support Israel/Hamas ceasefire -

uk.news.yahoo.com...

a reply to: Leviathan4

You cannot prove that the UK is against the war.

All you have is a few marches and MP's virtue signaling.

All your declarative statements are false and pushing a lie.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Just the experience of folk that actually live here who are not Radical Muslims or Israel phobic lefties?

It comes to something when you have to fall back to getting your jollies from lefties who support the transgender woke agenda.

You don't have to be left-wing to oppose the war in Gaza and regardless of what the MPs have voted for.

uk.news.yahoo.com...

Huge majority oppose UK Government policy and support Israel/Hamas ceasefire -


And here in the US

www.reuters.com...

US public support for Israel drops; majority backs a ceasefire, Reuters/Ipsos shows


Pretty much refutes your very weak argument

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

You cannot prove that the UK is against the war.

All you have is a few marches and MP's virtue signaling.

All your declarative statements are false and pushing a lie.

See above post but again here

www.reuters.com...

US public support for Israel drops; majority backs a ceasefire, Reuters/Ipsos shows


And in the UK

www.thenational.scot...

Huge majority oppose UK Government policy and support Israel/Hamas ceasefire


At least there is good evidence people in both countries are against the war.

What evidence do you have that they are in favour of the war?

Nothing much. Just pushing the narrative that has become so desperate in the last few weeks.

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SprocketUK

Huge majority oppose UK Government policy and support Israel/Hamas ceasefire - poll

uk.news.yahoo.com...

Only 8% of those who were asked said there shouldn't be a ceasefire or in few words the insane the warmongers, and those who give unequivocal support to Israel.

If stars and flags and post content on ATS are any indication, I'd wager that ATS is far beyond that 8% representation.

If only they used logic and discernment in their posts, then I might change my mind about this whole ordeal.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SprocketUK

Huge majority oppose UK Government policy and support Israel/Hamas ceasefire - poll

uk.news.yahoo.com...

Only 8% of those who were asked said there shouldn't be a ceasefire or in few words the insane the warmongers, and those who give unequivocal support to Israel.

If stars and flags and post content on ATS are any indication, I'd wager that ATS is far beyond that 8% representation.

If only they used logic and discernment in their posts, then I might change my mind about this whole ordeal.

It's a lost cause.
Israel has lost the information war and has isolated itself from the the rest of the world.
On the top of it the crimes committed against civilians cannot be justified or defended and hence you see the revolt in the Labour Party and among the Democrats where hundreds of Officials from all agencies are asking Biden to change the US Policy.

a reply to: Leviathan4

I thought all the anti-Semites said that "the joos" ran the media.

lol


I guess it's the opposite.

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