Senior State Department Official Resigns, saying Israel uses US Arms to Massacre Civilians

a reply to: Leviathan4

I don't condemn Israel for exercising it's right of self defence and your constant allegations of war crimes have yet to be proven.

Hamas, on the other hand, is a proscribed terrorist organisation, for good reason.

I don't give a monkeys about some US guy's opinion because I don't have confirmation bias.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

I don't condemn Israel for exercising it's right of self defence and your constant allegations of war crimes have yet to be proven.

Hamas, on the other hand, is a proscribed terrorist organisation, for good reason.

I don't give a monkeys about some US guy's opinion because I don't have confirmation bias.

Look again at this

1)it's an uncontroversial fact that US Arms should not be used to Massacre civilians and should not be used to result in massive civilian casualties. US Arms should not be used to kill civilians

2) There is no military solution here and we are providing arms to Israel on a path that has not led to peace, has not led to security, neither for Palestinians nor for Israelis. It is a dead end

The massacre of civilians is not self defense but an act of revenge. Even you should be able to see this but you are calling the various war crimes and the massacre of civilians as self defense. You have extended its definition as it seems in your vocabulary.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

I don't condemn Israel for exercising it's right of self defence and your constant allegations of war crimes have yet to be proven.

Hamas, on the other hand, is a proscribed terrorist organisation, for good reason.

I don't give a monkeys about some US guy's opinion because I don't have confirmation bias.

Yes, you don't want to address what the State Department Official said as it doesn't suit your narrative. It's understandable by the way. All those who unequivocally support Israel have been stuck in the same dogma for weeks now.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Au contraire, Mon Ami.

I did address it.

As in, I don't care about one guy's opinion.

Same could be said about those that parrot anti Israeli pro Hamas dogma.

Unequivocally.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Au contraire, Mon Ami.

I did address it.

As in, I don't care about one guy's opinion.

Same could be said about those that parrot anti Israeli pro Hamas dogma.

Unequivocally.

Of course you don't care about the State Department Official and so many others who have expressed their views against the killings of innocent civilians as it doesn't suit your narrative as I said above.

It clear says something about the massacre of civilians. You don't seem to accept it.

a reply to: Leviathan4

So, how many dead are innocent civilians, and how many are Hamas terrorists?

Want to phone a friend?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

So, how many dead are innocent civilians, and how many are Hamas terrorists?

Want to phone a friend?

They don’t know, they don’t know anything absolute.

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: TheValeyard

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels


They're literally sending money to the Taliban and shipping funds for HAMAS's war effort.
Why would they not supply Israel with weapons too?
They're making bank on this.
Come on now.

It ain't about taking sides,
it's about who profits from the fighting.

Who gets the spoils of Gaza, as in the oil there, yet to be drilled?

It's not even about Gaza, but rather about justifying an invasion of Iran.
That's why they sent the money knowing what they'd do with it.
It was bait.
Notice how the talk about Iran sounds recently?

Yet we haven't taken back the 6 billion Biden gave Iran, did we?

The money was sent to Qatar to dole out "as needed" for humanitarian reasons. Note, Hamas headquarters are in Qatar and the Qatari government funds Hamas. Whoever thought it was a good idea to send the $6B there should be investigated.

Agreed, want to know the root causes, follow the money.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

So, how many dead are innocent civilians, and how many are Hamas terrorists?

Want to phone a friend?

Thet is no much evidence that those from the Hamas Group are killed during the bombings as when you bomb residential areas with such high density population you will kill civilians mostly. Or injure them.

You need to ask IDF about how many they have killed from those who have targeted it.

originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

So, how many dead are innocent civilians, and how many are Hamas terrorists?

Want to phone a friend?

They don’t know, they don’t know anything absolute.

The ICC could find out when they will examine the case. I always thought how many innocent people need to be murdered to get one from the Hamas group. It's a good question that only the IDF can answer.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Only Hamas can answer that. Not the IDF.

How could they?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Only Hamas can answer that. Not the IDF.

How could they?

Well... IDF has claimed it has killed some of them but never says how many civilians they kill. At least the Red Cross and Doctors without Borders are on the ground and can confirm what's happening.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

So, how many dead are innocent civilians, and how many are Hamas terrorists?

Want to phone a friend?

They don’t know, they don’t know anything absolute.

The ICC could find out when they will examine the case. I always thought how many innocent people need to be murdered to get one from the Hamas group. It's a good question that only the IDF can answer.

I was talking about you, not the IDF, derp on

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Only Hamas can answer that. Not the IDF.

How could they?

Well... IDF has claimed it has killed some of them but never says how many civilians they kill. At least the Red Cross and Doctors without Borders are on the ground and can confirm what's happening.

IDF can kill all them, those people chose to live in the most contested piece of land on the face of the planet. Then on top of that when they saw a small group of people trying to poke the bear they stood by and did nothing about it. I guess they should have done more to protect the peace. Tell us how far would you go to protect your right to live?

originally posted by: SomeStupidName

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Only Hamas can answer that. Not the IDF.

How could they?

Well... IDF has claimed it has killed some of them but never says how many civilians they kill. At least the Red Cross and Doctors without Borders are on the ground and can confirm what's happening.

IDF can kill all them, those people chose to live in the most contested piece of land on the face of the planet. Then on top of that when they saw a small group of people trying to poke the bear they stood by and did nothing about it. I guess they should have done more to protect the peace. Tell us how far would you go to protect your right to live?

I need to tell you nothing more than what I said earlier. Hamas is not an existential threat to Israel. Only those who are deluded can believe in such propaganda.

Take a look the topic of the thread.

Israel cannot commit war crimes and massacre civilians in the name of self defense. We have discussed this several times. Once more here. The State Department Official seems to have made the logical argument that anyone can follow.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Hamas is not an existential threat to Israel

But How About those 12000 missiles and a 40000 man army? ☠️

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
a reply to: Leviathan4

Hamas is not an existential threat to Israel

But How About those 12000 missiles and a 40000 man army? ☠️

Still not an existential threat to Israel.

a reply to: Leviathan4



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Surely in such a barrage, many innocent civilians will be slaughtered and for what? A quick solution that protects Israelis somehow?