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The Real Truth About The Gaza Hospital Attack

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posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

"There haven't been any official independent investigations by independent experts. For this to happen they need to be on the ground. And this is physically impossible. Until then everything is speculation."

Why not apply that same logic to your constant claims of Israeli "war crimes"?

No?



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
There is more than enough evidence from which an obvious conclusion can be reached.

Yep. To try to blame Israel for this is antisemitism and/or willful ignorance ... AND BLOOD LIBEL.



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

Pure double standards.



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"There haven't been any official independent investigations by independent experts. For this to happen they need to be on the ground. And this is physically impossible. Until then everything is speculation."

Why not apply that same logic to your constant claims of Israeli "war crimes"?

No?


Who said the same logic doesn't apply there?
A very bizarre argument you have made...

But there is plenty of evidence for the war crimes committed by both sides but not much on who attacked the hospital (this is highly disputed). A very important detail you seem to be forgetting...

reliefweb.int...


Damning evidence of war crimes as Israeli attacks wipe out entire families in Gaza

As Israeli forces continue to intensify their cataclysmic assault on the occupied Gaza Strip, Amnesty International has documented unlawful Israeli attacks, including indiscriminate attacks, which caused mass civilian casualties and must be investigated as war crimes




apnews.com...


Experts say Hamas and Israel are committing war crimes in their fight





www.onmanorama.com...


The United Nations on Friday raised concerns over the war crimes committed on both sides in the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict. The UN Human Rights Office cited forcible transfer, collective punishment and the taking of hostages as the war continued into its 21st day.

"We are concerned that war crimes are being committed. We are concerned about the collective punishment of Gazans in response to the atrocious attacks by Hamas, which also amounted to war crimes," spokeswoman Ravina Shamdasani told a press conference in Geneva.





edit on 30-10-2023 by Leviathan4 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
There is more than enough evidence from which an obvious conclusion can be reached.

Yep. To try to blame Israel for this is antisemitism and/or willful ignorance ... AND BLOOD LIBEL.



The UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Lawyers and Experts have pointed out that Israel has committed war crimes.

I am sure your antisemitic claims don't have much chance in any debate.

Unless you imply there is conspiracy and everyone is antisemitic and Jew hater...



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"There haven't been any official independent investigations by independent experts. For this to happen they need to be on the ground. And this is physically impossible. Until then everything is speculation."

Why not apply that same logic to your constant claims of Israeli "war crimes"?

No?


Who said the same logic doesn't apply there?
A very bizarre argument you have made...

But there is plenty of evidence for the war crimes committed by both sides but not much on who attacked the hospital (this is highly disputed). A very important detail you seem to be forgetting...

reliefweb.int...


Damning evidence of war crimes as Israeli attacks wipe out entire families in Gaza

As Israeli forces continue to intensify their cataclysmic assault on the occupied Gaza Strip, Amnesty International has documented unlawful Israeli attacks, including indiscriminate attacks, which caused mass civilian casualties and must be investigated as war crimes




apnews.com...


Experts say Hamas and Israel are committing war crimes in their fight





www.onmanorama.com...


The United Nations on Friday raised concerns over the war crimes committed on both sides in the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict. The UN Human Rights Office cited forcible transfer, collective punishment and the taking of hostages as the war continued into its 21st day.

"We are concerned that war crimes are being committed. We are concerned about the collective punishment of Gazans in response to the atrocious attacks by Hamas, which also amounted to war crimes," spokeswoman Ravina Shamdasani told a press conference in Geneva.






I cant help but imagine you dribbling as you draw cartoon jews with big hooked noses, clasping their hands together as they greedily look at piles of money.


Thats what your jokes of posts are.
Despite haviung it explained to you, over and over, despite getting testimony printed here denying it you are still frothing at the mouth in your rabid hunger to blame Jews for what Hamas did.

edit on thpMon, 30 Oct 2023 13:23:50 -050020232023-10-30T13:23:50-05:00kAmerica/Chicago31000000k by SprocketUK because: typing



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4
But there is plenty of evidence for the war crimes committed by both sides but not much on who attacked the hospital (this is highly disputed).

BULL. There is PLENTY of evidence on what happened at the hospital. It is NOT 'highly disputed'. The evidence has been repeated to you dozens of times. You refuse to acknowledge it. Yet you cling to incessant cry of 'Israeli war crimes' without any evidence of such. HYPOCRISY. You are easy to read and your agenda is clear for all to see.



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
.... you are still frothing at the mouth in your rabid hunger to blame Jews for what Hamas did.

YEP. Its'' BLOOD LIBEL.

A false incendiary claim against the Jews ... simply because they are Jewish.
Blood Libel - Anti Defamation League



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Where are your independent investigations by independent independent experts that YOU insist "need to be on the ground" which you say is impossible?

That is just blatant double standards and hypocrisy.

A terrible argument.



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
But there is plenty of evidence for the war crimes committed by both sides but not much on who attacked the hospital (this is highly disputed).

BULL. There is PLENTY of evidence on what happened at the hospital. It is NOT 'highly disputed'. The evidence has been repeated to you dozens of times. You refuse to acknowledge it. Yet you cling to incessant cry of 'Israeli war crimes' without any evidence of such. HYPOCRISY. You are easy to read and your agenda is clear for all to see.


No that's not true. There hasn't been an independent investigation by independent experts who have to be on the ground to make any conclusions.

It doesn't change the fact that Israel killed thousands of innocent civilians and committed war crimes.



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

"Unless you imply there is conspiracy and everyone is antisemitic and Jew hater..."

Not "everyone".....just some.



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"There haven't been any official independent investigations by independent experts. For this to happen they need to be on the ground. And this is physically impossible. Until then everything is speculation."

Why not apply that same logic to your constant claims of Israeli "war crimes"?

No?


Who said the same logic doesn't apply there?
A very bizarre argument you have made...

But there is plenty of evidence for the war crimes committed by both sides but not much on who attacked the hospital (this is highly disputed). A very important detail you seem to be forgetting...

reliefweb.int...


Damning evidence of war crimes as Israeli attacks wipe out entire families in Gaza

As Israeli forces continue to intensify their cataclysmic assault on the occupied Gaza Strip, Amnesty International has documented unlawful Israeli attacks, including indiscriminate attacks, which caused mass civilian casualties and must be investigated as war crimes




apnews.com...


Experts say Hamas and Israel are committing war crimes in their fight





www.onmanorama.com...


The United Nations on Friday raised concerns over the war crimes committed on both sides in the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict. The UN Human Rights Office cited forcible transfer, collective punishment and the taking of hostages as the war continued into its 21st day.

"We are concerned that war crimes are being committed. We are concerned about the collective punishment of Gazans in response to the atrocious attacks by Hamas, which also amounted to war crimes," spokeswoman Ravina Shamdasani told a press conference in Geneva.






I cant help but imagine you dribbling as you draw cartoon jews with big hooked noses, clasping their hands together as they greedily look at piles of money.


Thats what your jokes of posts are.
Despite haviung it explained to you, over and over, despite getting testimony printed here denying it you are still frothing at the mouth in your rabid hunger to blame Jews for what Hamas did.


Nothing has been explained here other than having to hear the apologies for the thousands of people killed by Israel....



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

"No that's not true. There hasn't been an independent investigation by independent experts who have to be on the ground to make any conclusions."

Do you not see your double standards and the pure irony of that statement within the context of your own claims?



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"Unless you imply there is conspiracy and everyone is antisemitic and Jew hater..."

Not "everyone".....just some.


It's the UN, Amnesty International and Human Rights Lawyers that have spoken for the war crimes committed by Israel. So no conspiracy there.

If you want to make direct accusations then you need to have the evidence for it.



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"No that's not true. There hasn't been an independent investigation by independent experts who have to be on the ground to make any conclusions."

Do you not see your double standards and the pure irony of that statement within the context of your own claims?


There are no double standards. It's only in your mind.

There is no doubt that both sides have committed war crimes. There is plenty of doubt of who has attacked the hospital.

You think you have made a valid argument?



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4
There hasn't been an independent investigation by independent experts who have to be on the ground to make any conclusions.

Yes there has. Its' clear what happened. Your continued denials is sick.


It doesn't change the fact that Israel killed thousands of innocent civilians and committed war crimes.

There hasn't been an independent investigation by independent experts who have been on the ground to make any conclusions. YOUR WORDS BACK ATCYA. Hypocrite.



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"Unless you imply there is conspiracy and everyone is antisemitic and Jew hater..."

Not "everyone".....just some.


Do you condemn the war crimes committed by the IDF or you're afraid that you will be called a Jew hater?



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"There haven't been any official independent investigations by independent experts. For this to happen they need to be on the ground. And this is physically impossible. Until then everything is speculation."

Why not apply that same logic to your constant claims of Israeli "war crimes"?

No?


Who said the same logic doesn't apply there?
A very bizarre argument you have made...

But there is plenty of evidence for the war crimes committed by both sides but not much on who attacked the hospital (this is highly disputed). A very important detail you seem to be forgetting...

reliefweb.int...


Damning evidence of war crimes as Israeli attacks wipe out entire families in Gaza

As Israeli forces continue to intensify their cataclysmic assault on the occupied Gaza Strip, Amnesty International has documented unlawful Israeli attacks, including indiscriminate attacks, which caused mass civilian casualties and must be investigated as war crimes




apnews.com...


Experts say Hamas and Israel are committing war crimes in their fight





www.onmanorama.com...


The United Nations on Friday raised concerns over the war crimes committed on both sides in the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict. The UN Human Rights Office cited forcible transfer, collective punishment and the taking of hostages as the war continued into its 21st day.

"We are concerned that war crimes are being committed. We are concerned about the collective punishment of Gazans in response to the atrocious attacks by Hamas, which also amounted to war crimes," spokeswoman Ravina Shamdasani told a press conference in Geneva.






I cant help but imagine you dribbling as you draw cartoon jews with big hooked noses, clasping their hands together as they greedily look at piles of money.


Thats what your jokes of posts are.
Despite haviung it explained to you, over and over, despite getting testimony printed here denying it you are still frothing at the mouth in your rabid hunger to blame Jews for what Hamas did.


Nothing has been explained here other than having to hear the apologies for the thousands of people killed by Israel....



Ok here again is the gist of the argument that has been told to you multiple times already...
The crater in the car park is far too small to have come from an israeli bomb(remember you are the one alleging it was an israeli bomb)
The blast patterns indicate it was not a gravity bomb also as there is a clear line of damage going up to the tiny crater. Multiple sources have already stated that the damage is constistent with a failed launch of a Hamas rocket and absolutely inconsistent with an israeli gravity bomb.
Is that good enough for you or are you still going to blame the Israelis for this?
edit on thpMon, 30 Oct 2023 13:32:06 -050020232023-10-30T13:32:06-05:00kAmerica/Chicago31000000k by SprocketUK because: spelling



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:32 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
There hasn't been an independent investigation by independent experts who have to be on the ground to make any conclusions.

Yes there has. Its' clear what happened. Your continued denials is sick.


It doesn't change the fact that Israel killed thousands of innocent civilians and committed war crimes.

There hasn't been an independent investigation by independent experts who have been on the ground to make any conclusions. YOUR WORDS BACK ATCYA. Hypocrite.


There is no doubt that both sides have committed war crimes. There is plenty of doubt of who has attacked the hospital.

There is no official independent investigation on this matter.



posted on Oct, 30 2023 @ 01:32 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4
There is plenty of doubt of who has attacked the hospital.

NO THERE IS NOT. No one attacked the hospital. A failed terrorist rocket fell in it's parking lot. MOUNTAINS of credible evidence says so. There is no doubt. Your continued refusal to accept that fact is either willful ignorance or anti-semitism. Or both.



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