UFOlogist going to Peru to investigate recent attacks.

a reply to: pianopraze

Michael Herrera was the marine reporting the Indonesian incident.
Saw him on the Shaun Ryan show, but he's been making the rounds of podcasts. The entire meme of "aliens are here to mine gold or lithium" needs to just go die in a corner somewhere. Minerals are abundant all over the universe not to mention anything we consider valuable probably isn't to Aliens.

I'm not a rabid debunker however common sense needs to be applied to acquired evidence before running amuck off on a tangent. I'm also not a fan of throwing in the towel because of the other meme "Aliens are millions of years more advanced" than us.

By the end of The Expedition Report in a "perfect world" I would have liked to see Villagers also armed with spray Gorilla Glue as a way to hamper the armored assailants & their tech. Sometimes low tech gets you further than trying to out-escalate situations.

a reply to: Caver78

Hmm.. I was theorizing about humans using reverse engineered technology.

Have to start here.

We have to get our minerals somewhere on planet and maybe using inferior metals/ metallurgy… unless/until we’ve reversed engineered enough to get way out.

Again all speculation until proof is offered. I’m mildly hopeful there is some reality about what’s getting "whistleblown" to congress.

Has there been any speculation on why human skin is taken, and for what purpose??a reply to: pianopraze

From my initial thoughts that this was utter nonsense, I have become very invested in this. There can no longer be doubt that something very strange is happening.

Is it Human or is it something else? Scooby Doo, where are you?

This is certainly nothing like anything I have ever heard.

Some thoughts:
1. They have cameras - they need to document physical evidence such as the foot prints. Casts would be better. I am sure they have access to plaster of paris as there does seem to be doctors in the area.
2. If any further human attacks occur, they need to try obtain scrapings of the substance used, for chemical analysis.
3. it would nice if they had access to a geiger counter to measure increased radiation near sightings / encounters. If positive, this might also assist as "early warning" device. Especially in the dark.

originally posted by: Manduisacat9
Has there been any speculation on why human skin is taken, and for what purpose??a reply to: pianopraze

Lots of theories being thrown around.

Distraction/disinformation: there has been long standing boogeyman in the area of facepeeelers for centuries. Maybe the aliens or humans in suits doing it to throw people off trail of what they are really after. Eg slave trade or organ harvesting.

Food: some think certain aliens can’t process food like we do.

Genetics: local are very “pure” see video for further info. Don’t think they take lots of shots etc. see video for more info.

Weird rituals: if human perps they might be doing it for weird occult rituals.

Genetic sampling: just like cattle mutilations, people speculate it could be for testing environmental conditions.

And a lot more. Just read the comments on Twitter.

a reply to: Caver78

Maybe some of the aliens like drugs, correct me if I am wrong but this area is where coca plants are grown. (Peru produces more than Columbia)

That is something unique to this planet and can not be harvested anywhere else, where minerals and metals can be found across the universe.

We have heard of narco submarines, what about narco UAPs 😂

I cant help but think of ending scene of Cheech and Chong's Next Movie.

Humor aside I do think the drug trade is largely behind whats happening in rural Peru.

a reply to: pianopraze

Maybe the aliens or humans in suits doing it to throw people off trail of what they are really after. Eg slave trade or organ harvesting.

I think that that is one of the more likely scenarios.

Weird rituals: if human perps they might be doing it for weird occult rituals.

That reminds me about a rumored video that was supposedly circulating on the darkweb.

I still have the expedition video to watch before I comment any further, but I did watch the first 7 minutes and was a little surprised that there was no mention of US forces operating in the area and the illegal miners theory was heavily blasted.

a reply to: pianopraze
Apologies!
My issue with "aliens here for minerals" was in response to aliensanonymous's thoughts. I tend to just bundle a bunch of "response" like I'm in a face to face conversation forgetting the internet doesn't work that way.
OOPS!!!

With all the "language/legislation specificness" surrounding anything to do with the UFO/UAP whistleblowers going also as far as to make getting a Skiff impossible it's safe to assume whistleblower information is legit. Despite testimony having been ongoing & under oath for the past two years, the stonewallers are still having hissy fits.

Ryan Graves on his "Merged" podcast actually had to explain ARRO's mandate because people were assuming their findings were also going to be released to the public. It was sad. It was also "telling" because of it's specificity. The more specific Agencies get, the more troubling to them the subject matter.

Despite all the theories about face-peelers/cow mutilations until we have a clearer understanding on why those tissue's may be unique I think we're just all guessing.

I'm also having a problem with the ineptness of the intruders. Lots of incursions, not a lot of payoff for them.
Does that sound right to anyone? We are absolutely missing something.

a reply to: Caver78

I'm also having a problem with the ineptness of the intruders. Lots of incursions, not a lot of payoff for them.
Does that sound right to anyone? We are absolutely missing something.

It sounded like they tried to abduct a 15 year old girl, and if they are sex or organ traffickers there's money to be made. Most 15 year olds have young, healthy, adult sized organs that would sell for a lot of money on the black market.

Then again, it's possible that the intruders are just running a scare campaign in hopes of scaring the villagers off of their land.

Didn't ol' Wernher Von Braun say that an Alien False Flag operation may take place in the future?

That fits the recent video from Peru, the attack on the girl and her story of the two gringo.

The absence of real motive is another problem for me. Drugs, land, minerals, sex and organ trafficking?

As is "face peeling" - what the hell for other than causing terror? The face is the most expressive part of the human body, it is on show to everyone. The thought of our face being mutilated is a psychological horror to everyone. Lose an arm or a leg and people get by, but the face is another thing entirely. In horror movies this is a well known psychological ploy.

I would not ignore the possibility that the "aliens" are being framed for something they did not do.




Just to add a motive for an alien false flag.

If the population becomes terrified of "aliens" that is the uniting against a commonly perceived enemy for sure.

It also allows for the "saviour government" to blacklist and whitelist. Only the "approved of aliens" are allowed for "contact". The definition here of contact is treaty and trade on agreed governmental level.

That is the difference between contact and encounters.





Harming innocent girls is definitely the wrong way to prepare the world for contact.

That act alone speaks volumes on the "approved of aliens" and the people who think the end justifies the means.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

The false flag theory.

Bear with me on this. That theory cropped up, but we've also had individual's who are convinced Aliens are coming to save us, or at least straighten things out. In the last 2 yrs all sorts of bit's & bob's have been popping up, I just think we've not correlated them so they all "seem" like random puzzle pieces.

Every single one of us when presented with "a theory" know instantly if it's "a truth" or not. Thank the collective consciousness for that one. The biggest hurdle is once you finally get conformation on "that truth" there's literally nowhere to place that puzzle piece to add it to "a whole".

For instance False flag aliens/savior aliens.
Alberino's book" birthright ' has the little grays with their abductions & BS as both a current & ongoing invasion. He went further with the thought the "savior aliens" will appear but are actually the ones who will destroy us. They'll come cloaked in Love'nLight but they are far from it.

I've known all my life the grays don't belong anywhere near us or earth. I've also butted heads with people giving away their self-authority depending on a more enlightened alien race to magically show up & fix everything.
WELL! Looks like I was right but for the wrong reasons. Still two puzzle pieces clicked into place.

Same as Werner Von Braun said we'd get a false flag. Bet he never considered the twist in it being the actual false flag might be Enlightened Aliens. They'll be pimped as a good thing. THAT'S the actual flase flag. Not us battling in the skies with UAP's.

Absolutely astonishing I'm in no way interested in, knowlegeable about, or gave a hairy rats butt about the Bible.
So Alberino's & Meisner's information would never have blipped my radar. But with all the whistleblower stuff jumping off it did. (no offence meant concerning the Bible)

I know in my gut other people have pieces of the truth, but aren't realizing the importance. About the 15yr old girl & organ harvesters. In practicality her organs would have to be a match for the recipients. Her kidnappers would have to keep her healthy till then. That I think would preclude using her for sex trafficing due to drugs & transmitable diseases.
Nobody gets top dollar for damaged product. The Peruvian attackers go for the neck first. You hit either carotid arteries an her organs have a non-existant shelf life.

Not "sassing" anyone. Writing things out clears ideas up for me.
Liked your post!

a reply to: IndieA

Don’t know current ATS rules but I’m being purposefully vague to avoid censure. This is definitely going on.

There is not cuss words strong enough to describe the people doing these horrid evil acts. It dips into MK ULTRA, trafficking, and things people will not believe. Your mind literally shuts down.

originally posted by: NobodySpecial268
Didn't ol' Wernher Von Braun say that an Alien False Flag operation may take place in the future?

As is "face peeling" - what the hell for other than causing terror? The face is the most expressive part of the human body, it is on show to everyone. The thought of our face being mutilated is a psychological horror to everyone. Lose an arm or a leg and people get by, but the face is another thing entirely. In horror movies this is a well known psychological ploy.

I would not ignore the possibility that the "aliens" are being framed for something they did not do.

Harming innocent girls is definitely the wrong way to prepare the world for contact.

This has always been the forefront though when it came to aliens until recently. Something is going on.

Maybe a case of both and rather than either or. Which is a huge shift for me from mostly skeptic to, ok if true then what.

This makes more sense if it is evil humans.

But then aliens thought process would be truly alien to us and not fit in our notions of sense and sensible… predator trophies comes to mind.. and they are not just skinning faces. They are skinning many different areas and animals as well as humans.



Another random thought is: if aliens then possible not as far advanced as we might think. A few key technology advancement, say in gravity and propulsion, and we might not be so far behind. Also they might be just as fallible as humans. Look at fail army type YouTube or twitter channels for thoughts…

a reply to: Caver78

Aye, I'm with you here, Caver78.

I listened to the new video from Peru, and in particular the girl's recount of what happened to her. My gut feeling after was the girl is the key to understanding. After sleeping on it, I still think so.

We can look at what is recounted in the video without bringing disbelief or belief into it. Just look at what is presented and put the picture of the puzzle together.

I don't consider it matters if it is extraterrestrials or a group of people with advanced technology. What perhaps matters most is how can such technology be introduced to the world.

So two scenarios:

* An outside party has the technology and wants to establish formal mutual contact.
* The technology has been developed in secret and is now at the stage of maturity.

In the first, one doesn't really need a false flag. Why not just announce it and let the chips fall as they may.

In the second scenario, questions will be asked. A false flag will solve a lot of potential problems. Especially if limitless energy had stopped the pollution and destruction of our biosphere.

I feel for the girl, she didn't deserve what happened to her nor the potential outcome. She is just an innocent kid.

That is the biggest problem as I see it, it seems some people think her life is expendable for the greater good.

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After thought:

If I were seated at a table with Talia, and the bearer of technology that saves the world. If it were me who had to make the decision. I wouldn't be telling Talia she is expendable. I would tell the other party to go stick the technology in an instant.

I think they have crossed a line in harming Talia.

New twist. In same region of jungle these tribesmen are being interviewed.

They are asked about aliens and they don’t know the word alien or it’s meaning.

They are show grey aliens and they say these are the ant men who live underground.

More interesting things you can see in the video Here on Twitter.

Indigenous people from the Amazon, on the border with Peru, hear the word "Alien" for the first time. However, when shown images of "Grey Aliens" (classic), they instantly recognize them: "They are subterranean beings, living like ants, taking your mind underground..."

a reply to: pianopraze

Here in Australia, we have similar critters the indigenous folk mention sometimes.

This may shed some light on the subject of insect people: www.abovetopsecret.com...




I think the villagers would probably know the difference between "ant people" and what is harassing the villages.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

Absolutely they would know the difference.

When shown pictures they identified these intruders as looking like the insectiloid aliens. It’s in Tim’s video where he goes to second video location.

Some American Indians also identified greys as underground beings. It’s on like every third Anchient Alien episode. They built these round areas with ladders going down to honor/represent them.

So it seems like there are several things going on in this region. We are very Western culture centric but the more I dig, the more this area reveals to be the biggest UFO hotspot on the planet going back many decades. We have just been unaware of it until now.

This recent episode is the tip of the iceberg in the region introducing us Westerners to it.




Two reports of downed/recovered ufo craft by US soldiers in the last few decades. It’s no wonder space force is down there.

a reply to: pianopraze

Absolutely they would know the difference.

Personally, I think the "ant people" AKA the grays can be taken out of the picture. The villagers know what they are and are familiar with them. A part of their folk lore and folk practice.

I would also suggest that if it were indeed grays attacking the villages, the people would have used their own names for them; they didn't. I would also suggest that if the ant people / grays were hostile, then the villagers would have concluded the ant people were angry. The anger is generally caused by destruction of a sacred site.

The villagers described the attackers as the "green goblin" of Spider-Man fame. The girl Talia described very human behaviour and speech, along with body armour and familiar medical objects.

I think it notable that the intruders were described as being in pairs and silent. Talia's gringo attackers spoke to each other in her presence. That can be explained as Talia was about to be killed and wouldn't be saying anything shortly. That she fought back by grabbing a helmet, and the villagers showing up, saved her.

I think it is notable that Talia took one look at the two reporters and started to shake. She recognised something that scared her.

That hour and forty-five-minute video has a lot of information that is not served up on a plate. One has to put the clues together. To me, the two guys were very careful to chose their words without the unnecessary drawing of conclusions.

a reply to: pianopraze

The girl and her brother said that she was attacked by gringos, not ant people, though.

New theory: It could be the Super Adventure Club.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

I wasn’t clear I guess.

I agree not greys.

In video he shows picture of insectoid alien and everyone said that’s them! At this point his local navy bodyguard got scared.



IndieA:
They describe the attackers in exquisite detain in the video. The term gringos came from Timothy not her. And not in description of the people but the accent of the Spanish. One sounded more strange almost gringo, one sounded like local. And Tim think she was delirious at that point and made up.

Either way. His conclusion: humans with alien tech.