Noahs Ark and the Biblical World Wide Flood Never Happened

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: andy06shake
They will be getting part of their share of the 5 bluefin Tuna caught like the rest of the ""5000 pairs.""

There would have been 8 million pairs of animals.
And there would have been no fishing off the boat.
The seas would have been DEAD.
And Noah and his family would have been spending all day every day removing tons and tons of animal poop and pee ... all day long. No time for anything else.

I think what you are doing is brilliant.
I have never seen anyone provide an argument for creation and design and pull in so many evolutionists to agree with him.

So. In order for God to have created a Koala He had to first have created an abundance of eucalyptus plants planted and sustained in a suitable environment that can survive thousands of years?
Or is it millions of years?
A symbiotic existance where every animal requires a very specific plant or animal to survive the elements.
Brilliant!

Also.
Koala eat adult Koala poop for their first 3-4 months of life exclusively.

China feeds chicken poop to tilapia and other farmed fish.
Chickens eat from cow poop if offered the opportunity.

You numbskulls act like feed stores and feed mills must source everything in their recipes from the original demographic feed source.

I read feed recipes.
Notice the trend of animal feeds all being vegan now after removing the likes of blood meal, bone meal.
And diseases becoming more prevalent.
Most of you nuts eat processed foods like it is natural.
And to your pets too.
Most of you brilliant people have no idea how to feed a cat or a dog if you cannot buy it at the grocery store.
And you claim Noah and team was clueless.
And you eat pre-embalmed, I mean processed foods and formaldehyde, I mean soda pop.

Evolution at work.
Great lesson on the need for creation and the utter idiocy behind evolution.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: cooperton

Your pseudoscience doesn't work.
Races of humans are different from SPECIES.

I don't think you understand how arbitrarily species are assigned.

What you said wasn't even close to being accurate.
Each and every SPECIES of snake would have to be on the ark.
They do not cross breed.

One pair of cobra would be sufficient to give rise to the various phenotypes of the other cobras.

As I said - having two housecats on the boat ... they don't magically turn into tigers, lions, cheetah, puma, jaguar, leopard, lynx and the rest of the 37 species of feline in the world. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY

Educate yourself. Deny ignorance.

Warrior of Cain, child of lies, I am aware a wolf doesn't magically turn into a pug. It takes time. There's been thousands of years since the flood, plenty of time for allele drift to create all sorts of extreme phenotypes. Just like the black, white, and asian skulls are all drastically different. They're still the same kind - humankind - but with varying degrees of genetic expression.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
A symbiotic existance where every animal requires a very specific plant or animal to survive the elements.
Brilliant!

They act like Koalas are spoiled teenagers that would literally starve themselves to death before eating something that isnt their sole diet of grilled cheese sandwiches.

I read feed recipes.
Notice the trend of animal feeds all being vegan now after removing the likes of blood meal, bone meal.
And diseases becoming more prevalent.
Most of you nuts eat processed foods like it is natural.
And to your pets too.
Most of you brilliant people have no idea how to feed a cat or a dog if you cannot buy it at the grocery store.

Yeah they feed their pets dehydrated meat goo but then object to how a koala would be able to eat a plant that isn't eucalyptus. Hey, there's even a good chance they stored eucalyptus on the boat, it stores very well I've had an arrangement of eucalyptus in my house for months now with no signs of it decaying.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
How did he get the Polar bears and Penguins from all that way away?.

They couldn't have made the trip AND they would have been outside their climate capability and died from the heat. Polar bears and penguins (all 19 species of penguins) would have to have been on the boat, but couldn't be. ... more proof Noahs Ark didn't happen.

For anyone to believe your arguments as proof for Noahs ark, they would have to accept your argument as proof nothing evolved but was created and placed by design. There is no wiggle room here.
For anything to exist the environment must first be provided for.
No room for adaptation.

originally posted by: cooperton
I don't think you understand how arbitrarily species are assigned.

I don't think you understand how ANY of this works.

One pair of cobra would be sufficient to give rise to the various phenotypes of the other cobras.

Nope. Not from a flood just in 2400BC. Doesn't work that way. And how did Noah get the Cobras to begin with?

Warrior of Cain, child of lies,

Grow up.

There's been thousands of years since the flood, plenty of time for allele drift to create all sorts of extreme phenotypes.

No. The flood supposedly was 2400BC. That is NOT enough time. Not even close.

Just like the black, white, and asian skulls are all drastically different. They're still the same kind - humankind - but with varying degrees of genetic expression.

Again ... that's RACES of the SAME species ..
We are talking about DIFFERENT animal SPECIES.

originally posted by: cooperton
They act like Koalas are spoiled teenagers that would literally starve themselves to death before eating something that isnt their sole diet of grilled cheese sandwiches.

Hey genius ... read the information provided. Koalas HAVE TO HAVE EUCHALYPTUS OR THEY DIE. It has nothing to do with being spoiled about favorite food.

Hey, there's even a good chance they stored eucalyptus on the boat, it stores very well I've had an arrangement of eucalyptus in my house for months now with no signs of it decaying.

1 - No, Noah couldn't store eucalyptus on a boat because he didn't have any to store. HOW'D HE GET IT???? It grows in AUSTRALIA and he was in the Middle East.

2 - No, Eucalyptus wouldn't stay fresh for a year stored on a boat. Fresh cut eucalyptus lasts 3-8 weeks and that's only if the conditions are right. The conditions on that boat would have been HORRENDOUS and not conducive to long lasting plants. Not only that, but he would have had to travel all the way to Australia to cut it down and it would have taken additional time for him to carry it all back to the Middle East ... AND he would have had to have gotten even more than that because there would have been NO EUCALYPTUS PLANTS ALIVE after the flood, so he'd have to feed the koalas even after the flood ended.

How'd he have time to do all that when he was supposedly spending all his time building a boat (that he didn't know how to build)

originally posted by: FlyersFan
"There's been thousands of years since the flood, plenty of time for allele drift to create all sorts of extreme phenotypes."
No. The flood supposedly was 2400BC. That is NOT enough time. Not even close.

They can make new dog breeds in 60 years. It's empirical and repeatable science. Sorry dude you lose.

Again ... that's RACES of the SAME species ..
We are talking about DIFFERENT animal SPECIES.

You are clueless.

Remember when you tattle-taled on me for trying to reach out to you privately so you stop being an embarassing double agent for the father of lies? You are incapable of considering other things. They're cobras dude, they can have various phenotypic expressions, that doesn't mean they're a different kind of animal. Your sort of secular leaven is the reason people are leaving the church. I'm not saying this to be mean, it is a matter of fact. There is truth beyond what was force-fed into our minds growing up and in school about us being mutated chimp-like things.

I could understand someone not standing up for what Christ believed, but to outwardly preach against it and call yourself a Christian? The epitome of wolf in sheep's clothing.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
For anyone to believe your arguments as proof for Noahs ark, they would have to accept your argument as proof nothing evolved but was created and placed by design.

No. Evolution happens. But not in the time span that cooperton is trying to sell people. Evolution of species takes MUCH longer. 150,000,000 years of evolution for snakes we have today. Not 4,000.

And cooperton fails to explain exactly how the rattlesnakes and anacondas got to the Middle East to begin with. They are from the Americas.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: cooperton
They act like Koalas are spoiled teenagers that would literally starve themselves to death before eating something that isnt their sole diet of grilled cheese sandwiches.

Hey genius ... read the information provided. Koalas HAVE TO HAVE EUCHALYPTUS OR THEY DIE. It has nothing to do with being spoiled about favorite food.

Hey, there's even a good chance they stored eucalyptus on the boat, it stores very well I've had an arrangement of eucalyptus in my house for months now with no signs of it decaying.

Pathetic.

1 - No, Noah couldn't store eucalyptus on a boat because he didn't have any to store. HOW'D HE GET IT???? It grows in AUSTRALIA and he was in the Middle East.

2 - No, Eucalyptus wouldn't stay fresh for a year stored on a boat. Fresh cut eucalyptus lasts 3-8 weeks and that's only if the conditions are right. The conditions on that boat would have been HORRENDOUS and not conducive to long lasting plants. Not only that, but he would have had to travel all the way to Australia to cut it down and it would have taken additional time for him to carry it all back to the Middle East ... AND he would have had to have gotten even more than that because there would have been NO EUCALYPTUS PLANTS ALIVE after the flood, so he'd have to feed the koalas even after the flood ended.

How'd he have time to do all that when he was supposedly spending all his time building a boat (that he didn't know how to build)

Your argument fails on all levels. Damn pathetic.

If you would take an Eskimo and a hindu and switch their diets overnight.
What would happen to them?
In both short term and long term as in a few generations?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

No. Evolution happens. But not in the time span that cooperton is trying to sell people. Evolution of species takes MUCH longer. 150,000,000 years of evolution for snakes we have today. Not 4,000.

Bro there are new dog breeds made in 50 years, it doesn't take 150,000,000 years lololol. Just read what is said and accept that your lackluster critique is kind of dumb. Your caps lock doesn't change any of this.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
For anyone to believe your arguments as proof for Noahs ark, they would have to accept your argument as proof nothing evolved but was created and placed by design.

No. Evolution happens. But not in the time span that cooperton is trying to sell people. Evolution of species takes MUCH longer. 150,000,000 years of evolution for snakes we have today. Not 4,000.

And cooperton fails to explain exactly how the rattlesnakes and anacondas got to the Middle East to begin with. They are from the Americas.

So the koala and eucalyptus plant are a symbiotic species and if so which came first?

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
So the koala and eucalyptus plant are a symbiotic species and if so which came first?

Such a good point. Also crazy that if eucalyptus is poisonous to most animals, how many animals were just suiciding eating this stuff until one day plop a koala evolves somehow right in the same region as the eucalyptus tree and knows to eat it because it's now immune somehow. Talk about miracles.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
If you would take an Eskimo and a hindu and switch their diets overnight.
What would happen to them?
In both short term and long term as in a few generations?

Thats not even close to what is being discussed. Koalas HAVE TO HAVE eucalyptus. If they don't get it ... they die. Eskimos and hindus are the same species and therefore have diet preferences ... not requirements. Two very different things.

a reply to: FarmerSimulation

"You numbskulls act like feed stores and feed mills must source everything in their recipes from the original demographic feed source.

I read feed recipes.
Notice the trend of animal feeds all being vegan now after removing the likes of blood meal, bone meal.
And diseases becoming more prevalent.
Most of you nuts eat processed foods like it is natural.
And to your pets too.
Most of you brilliant people have no idea how to feed a cat or a dog if you cannot buy it at the grocery store.
And you claim Noah and team was clueless.
And you eat pre-embalmed, I mean processed foods and formaldehyde, I mean soda pop."

"Numbskulls "?

So now you have stupid insults.

So Noah's lions, Tigers etc were all vegans now.

Poppycock.

Suggest you give your dietary advice to Zoos.

What utter BS.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
So the koala and eucalyptus plant are a symbiotic species and if so which came first?

Irrelevant and unknown.
Doesn't address the FACT that the Koala HAS TO have eucalyptus.
Doesn't address the FACT that the Koala couldn't get to the Middle East.
Doesn't address the FACT that the eucalyptus couldn't get to the Middle East either.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
CAPS LOCKS!!!

Breathe bro breathe!

Blah blah blah ... you PMd me and insulted me. Screw off. Stay on topic or get off the thread.

That wasn't an insult, I was repeating what you believed and was curious how the f you believe in Jesus when you are constantly talking against what He believed in. Valid question. If you got insulted that's your own fault for not understanding your own hypocrisy.

You fail cooperton.
You fail to adequately address all the massive evidence against Noahs Ark and the Flood.
You make up crap and try to pass it off as science, but it's easily debunked.

Get over it, Koalas can eat food besides eucalyptus. Your cursory google searches do not compare to real life analysis of the adaptability of animals. Even your sacred word of the internet says koalas can eat other foods than eucalyptus lol.

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originally posted by: FlyersFan
Irrelevant and unknown.

You claimed Noah didn't know how to build boats lol. Mostly all your claims are shoot from the hip based on nothing but a whim.

originally posted by: cooperton
Bro there are new dog breeds made in 50 years, .

Breeds are not the same as SPECIES. People manipulating breeds is not the same as a species evolving on their own in the wild. Two different things. Two different timelines.

ALL species would have to have been represented in the ark. It was only in 2,400bc that it supposedly happened. Not enough time for two housecats to evolve into lions and tigers and pumas etc etc. Not enough time for anacondas to become rattlesnakes, etc etc.
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