Gov. Newsom signs $20/hr fast food minimum wage

a reply to: Solvedit

No one makes less than 15.50/hour.

State: 15.50
SD: 16.30
LA: 16.78
SF: 18.07
Oakland: 15.97
San Jose: 17.00
W. Hollywood: 19.08 - highest in state... of course.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Solvedit

No one makes less than 15.50/hour.

State: 15.50
SD: 16.30
LA: 16.78
SF: 18.07
Oakland: 15.97
San Jose: 17.00
W. Hollywood: 19.08 - highest in state... of course.

Haven't you lost 5 seats in the House? So, you are driving away the lowest skilled workers.

a reply to: Solvedit

That would be the GOP good user. Who is arguing against wage increase here? A real good look that is to the youth that already struggle as it is. Fantastic way of gaining the confidence and votes of a massive voting block don't ya think?

a reply to: Solvedit

Best news ever! We stand to lose more.

a reply to: FlyersFan

See where this ends?

To infinity and beyond!

a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

Wonder when you are going to offer an answer to my simple question:

You own a McDonald franchise. You now have to raise your employees wages. How are you going to do that and keep your resturant doors open?

This isn't a hard question.

Please have enough respect to answer if you are going to criticize conservatives.

Are you young folk not ready to solve real world problems?

a reply to: Solvedit

Haven't you lost 5 seats in the House? So, you are driving away the lowest skilled workers.

The Mexicans?

They all have green cards and SENTRI passes. Very busy border at rush hour. We'll take all the Mexicans we can get. They'll still pay taxes on their wages even if the live in Mexico. Especially need agriculture workers to bend and scoop.

I'm close to the border though. They can pull that off in this county.

It doesn't drive away low skilled workers as much as consolidate them. Three low income workers at minimum wage of 15.50 have a gross household income of 100k. Happens everywhere.

I feel insulated from the rabble of America in my non-internet day to day. I don't encounter the anger I do here. I don't encounter the liberal hellscape either. They've even cleared 75% of the homeless downtown in 3 months. Things are working from my perspective.

There's more complaints about our ways on other states news than our own.

Supreme Court rulings are getting a bit theocratic, but I don't mind, because my state insulates itself.

And I think if our state constitution were to ever stop insulating us from the rest of the country, we'd take the 5th largest world economy elsewhere.

China and every country that hates America would love it, too. Invest like crazy. 1.2 million Mandarin speakers here. Billions in investment already.

* And I don't feel solidarity with the democrat Party or cry for its lost seats. This is more personal spiritual attainment from the act of breaking up the echo chamber a little. It's a more left-handed method.

a reply to: Degradation33

I live a few hours north of you, but spend time in the Imperial Valley south of the Salton Sea. Recently ran dune buggies down the wall service road and had some observations about its effectiveness. Seems like it works well where it exists to me. The desert was more clean than I've ever seen it. The trash is pretty much gone, at least in that part of the fragile and the unique eco-system is returning. It was wonderful to see. And it's still a recreation area, dirt bikes and buggies. I felt like I was being watched by the cameras and motion detectors while cruising the wall. I smiled and waved as we flew by. It has stopped the coyotes that used to run thru that section.

I mentioned the Fast Pass lane at the border a few times here. Most people don't comprehend that so much traffic, human and fent, comes in that way. Every day. But, It's an expensive way to get a small amount of either in. The threat to close that lane is a BIG card to play, that will take someone with real huevos to even mention doing.

The problem is so complex. Ive lived in the American SW for nearly 70 years. It's my homeland, my mothers and her mothers before.... Im mostly white, and some NA. Like many Irish/NA here. Poor European trash came here generations ago, picked fruit, migrant farm work, right along side the Mexicans. My stepgrandma was 100% Mescalero Apache. I knew her better than my honky-tonking runaround Irish grandma. She loved me and treated me same as her own. Just another child running around her house, playing in the arroyo. My first husband and my kids are Spanish/NA/Irish on their fathers side, and the family grant holdings were split down the middle by the Gadsden Purchase, Treaty of Mesilla. His family didn't like me, I was beneath them in social class, as we were 'new' middle class. Even tho on my fathers side, poor with a math scholarship, he graduated from NMSU and went to work with Germans scientists at WSMR. My son married a DACA immigrant from Colima, MX. So my grands are a true representation of the American SW.

I would think one would listen to me when I speak of the invasion, however. There has always been a steady stream of people coming across. It's endemic to the region. It's a normal way of life. But this is different. This isn't just Mexico. It's the world. The bad players being sponsored by nefarious interests and sent here with a mission to destabilze us and wait for further instruction. It doesn't take that many to do alot of harm.

I also grew up during the cold war. My fathers position at WSMR and my own later at Sandia taught me some first hand observations about that, but that's another thread.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

I think our cost of living is driving them to cross The Rio Grande instead. I can't speak for Texas, but I can speak Spanish. There is sorta joke they can use better wages here to move to less killing field Tijuana neighborhoods. Secrets out, demasiado cara en el estado dorado.

And most, actually prefer to do it legally anyway. A large portion even holding STRONG disdain for the ones who cheat... And I don't blame them. They waited for Immigration.

It's sorta going like Eastern Europe.

When Russia F* up Syria they drove out all those refuges into Ukraine, Poland, Denmark, that trail. Is it any surprise Mein Kampf started selling in those regions? It was seen these Muslims were worthless. Goldbrickers on the dole for trauma, yet demanding everyone placate their Muslims sensitivities.

The reason it was so easy for Russia to say "Ukraine were Nazis" is Asylees made white Nationalism popular.

We are no different. And you're right. It could be another deliberate destabilization to send the sh*tbags other countries didn't want.

And I'm sorry they are all chosing Texas. I just don't see it here. Our overall crime rate is always one of the lowest for a metro area over 1 million. There's been masses camped at our border, but they don't disrupt once they filter in. Lots of Ukrainians recently. They get right in.

The Mexicans we are accustomed too do little to no harm. They taught me spanish if anything. Literalmente puedo terminar mi publicacion en espanol debido a la saturacion bilingue de estar a 18 millas de Mexico.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

You can raise the price of your food by a measly 5% and be just fine I'm sure.
Either way you are arguing against a living wage. Not a good look.

originally posted by: Stopstealingmycountry
Either way you are arguing against a living wage.

Again ...
Flipping burgers isn't a job worthy of a 'living wage'.
No special skills. No schooling required. No brain power needed.
Workers are a dime a dozen.
If someone wants a living wage, then they go to college or trade school.
EARN a living wage.

I knew a McDonald's burger flipper making minimum wage and the company gives workers a 50% discount on food, so guess what? the employee was motivated to spend her low wages on that half priced fast food, so the company ends up getting a good chunk of her paycheck back.

a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

Ok, raise the price of your burgers by 20%. Because that is the raise in pay. Take a decrease in 20% of your customers who cant or wont afford your burgers anymore. Now what?

Thanks for your answer. You get a D since you flunked the math. You'll likely go bankrupt in your little franchised store, and none of your workers will have a job. Unemployment will feed them for 6 months. Then nope.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

Ok, raise the price of your burgers by 20%. Because that is the raise in pay. Take a decrease in 20% of your customers who cant or wont afford your burgers anymore. Now what?

Thanks for your answer. You get a D since you flunked the math. You'll likely go bankrupt in your little franchised store, and none of your workers will have a job. Unemployment will feed them for 6 months. Then nope.

McDonald's has their marketing ways of attracting customers, like $1 coffee week and other specials and the salt/fat is addictive so there is that too. They could always add in more salt.

Any job which earns more than a living wage but pay less than a living wage is exploitation. Everyone should be against the exploitation of their fellowman - those who are not are wicked.

The guy has literally bankrupted the state. More people and businesses have left than all other states combined. The left, and anyone left in that # hole, literally, deserve what they voted for. Even most of Hollywood have left lol. That's when you really know it's bad

Bottom line we need to gut the govt. Two term limits for everyone, we have to balance our budgets, why not the govt. You can't be POTUS till you are 35, so why do we let them after say 75, seriously. Accept nooney for your service ever, no books, no stocks, no one in your family.

Everyone afraid of convention of states but we could do all those things and more.

a reply to: Solvedit

originally posted by: DaRAGE
Are you guys serious? $20 x 40hrs = $800.
$800 x 52 weeks = $41,600 per year, before tax.

You guys make it sound like its a lot. It’s really not. What do you want them to make $7.50 an hour? Do you want them on welfare?

Back in the day, fast food places were a good way for teens out of high school to start a job.

Do you honestly think some one with no job experience, or life skills, should be making $40k a year?

I know I didn't...
And I was a union roofer, out of high school.

The guy has literally bankrupted the state. More people and businesses have left than all other states combined. The left, and anyone left in that # hole, literally, deserve what they voted for. Even most of Hollywood have left lol. That's when you really know it's bad

Bottom line we need to gut the govt. Two term limits for everyone, we have to balance our budgets, why not the govt. You can't be POTUS till you are 35, so why do we let them after say 75, seriously. Accept nooney for your service ever, no books, no stocks, no one in your family.

Everyone afraid of convention of states but we could do all those things and more.

a reply to: Solvedit

Fast Food, unless in management, is not a career job. It is not created to support a family. It is to find people who work well, keep them and train them as management. Rinse and Repeat.

No need for a living wage. At all.

Now, the kicker, is that at 20 a hour this means less people hired. More PT to control benefit costs. Then, when you make 20 an hour, you will also pay more in tax.

It does not benefit the worker, or the employer.

I'm all for increased automation; maybe then, if I go to get fast food, my order won't be screwed up by someone not paying attention or giving a crap. People think more automation means more leisure time for the workers; it will mean fewer jobs for an increasingly larger pool of workers. It will be an even more interesting decade as we go along.