Should we fear white pride?

It is companies like these listed we need to fear .

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My telephone & broadband provider got cancelled after reading they were firing 1700+ staff so they could meet diversity targets .

It is not about how good you are at your job any more , it is about what colour of skin suit you have on .

a reply to: Xtrozero

Because it wasn't centuries ago? Europeans still have African colonies, the US has over 750 military bases around the world, the British commonwealth still exists, the financial capitals of the world is still London and new York.

The IMF, worldbank, all financial institutions are based in "white nations".
Those institutions were built on the shoulders of past dominance, like the architecture of Rome and Greece and ancient Egypt shaped Gothic and Christiendom culture in Europe.

I get this wierd feeling you watched a recent Lex Friedman interview....

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Xtrozero

Because it wasn't centuries ago? Europeans still have African colonies, the US has over 750 military bases around the world, the British commonwealth still exists, the financial capitals of the world is still London and new York.

I get this wierd feeling you watched a recent Lex Friedman interview....

I like Lex, but I do not know of the one you are talking about. So I was in the military for 28 years and I spent that time flying all over the world to these bases and the 750 number is total BS and propaganda pushed forth by socialist countries.
What that 750 represents is basically US connections on many levels across many areas and not just the military. Most are small detachments working with the local country in a wide range of areas including training and support.

We can agree the US has a massive Presence in the world, so what? We are there in these places by invitation and not force. The US is not in the business of military expansion as Russia, China, and the Middle East would like to do. Anytime someone throws around the 750 number it kind of tells me where they like to get their facts that tend to be very bias and sets their view on everything.

originally posted by: daskakik
Doesn't matter, whatever percentage doesn't think it is cool doesn't act/dress like them because they don't want to be associated with that lifestyle. The same would apply to that 99 percent of whites not using white pride for the same reason. It isn't rocket science.

My main point is gang life and X Pride are seen as popular in minority groups whereas White pride and criminal lifestyle are not in White culture. Due to this, it is ingenuous to suggest there is some normalized White Pride type norm within the White population.

a reply to: Xtrozero

To you it's not a big deal, to a normal person military presence is a big deal.

Either way, the US operates like an empire, because it is one, and it uses imperialist means to police its empire. Ever heard of why Japan, Germany, and Italy make such good cars? Its because they didnt need to worry about building a military, the Americans did that for them.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
My main point is gang life and X Pride are seen as popular in minority groups whereas White pride and criminal lifestyle are not in White culture. Due to this, it is ingenuous to suggest there is some normalized White Pride type norm within the White population.

Maybe not normalized but they exist and if you don't want to be lumped in with them you avoid using their slogans.

I guess you could argue that people shouldn't stereotype but we know that is pie in the sky.

a reply to: daskakik

Slogans like what?

America First?

Make America Great Again?

Slogans like that?

a reply to: CoyoteAngels
The OP asked about "White Pride".

Of course it doesn't help that MAGA/America first makes for strange bedfellows:
"Neo-Nazis explain why they like Donald Trump"

a reply to: daskakik

And their counter parts in other races don't like Trump, they like Obama. And they do plenty of damage to communities.
More, I would say.

So, what is your point?

eta: And I was asking, you said that if people say 'white pride' slogans, then they deserve to be called bad names. So I named the only slogans I know that are associated with this white pride you dread.

If I'm wrong, can you tell me a slogan? What am I missing?

a reply to: CoyoteAngels
I never said they deserve to be called anything, I said it isn't surprising if they are.

It is real simple, I don't want to be associated with any group so I don't wear political t-shirts/hats, I don't wave BLM, White Pride, Gay Pride, antifa or any other banner.

The argument that one groups is larger or does more damage isn't the topic of the thread. I think this is the crux of it:

There seems to be a lot of negativity towards racial pride, in the context of white pride.

The answer is simple, those groups that have been the loudest and that have used white pride, and slogans based on white pride, more often then not, were racist groups.

Perhaps the most moderate form I have seen is the separatists, who also come in other skin tones, who often use the slogan "separate but equal".

a reply to: daskakik

I have literally never heard anyone ever say 'separate but equal'.

I guess you had to throw that in to say something after I challenged your slogan claim.

Word salad and an anachronism, at best, and probably was used in the racist south when they were all KKK DEMOCRATS.

Dixie. Yeah. That wasnt republicans.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels
Actually I heard it from some guys in Illinois.

As a matter of fact the Nation of Islam is pretty separatist as well, why I said they come in other skin tones.

Just because you never heard about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

originally posted by: strongfp

Either way, the US operates like an empire, because it is one, and it uses imperialist means to police its empire. Ever heard of why Japan, Germany, and Italy make such good cars? Its because they didnt need to worry about building a military, the Americans did that for them.

That is kind of stretching it, but yes we are an economic empire, is that bad?

originally posted by: daskakik

Maybe not normalized but they exist and if you don't want to be lumped in with them you avoid using their slogans.

I guess you could argue that people shouldn't stereotype but we know that is pie in the sky.

Who uses the term White Pride...lol I remember when the White Superimist came from all over the country to Charlottesville for a rally and it was under 100 people. I view that type of person as someone who has failed in life and feels the need to blame others for their failure, but boy did the left make a big deal over it...less than 100 from all over the country I remind you.

This is what White Pride is really like... extremely small pockets of people who have no life, or they are part of a criminal gang or in prison. In other words a nothing burger for the rest of us.

I see no reason why not to stereotype at some level, it is how we think. This doesn't mean to wide brush label, but if something looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then...

originally posted by: daskakik
Of course it doesn't help that MAGA/America first makes for strange bedfellows:
"Neo-Nazis explain why they like Donald Trump"

How many gang members liked Obama? I'm sure I can go to prison and find a ton of liberals too. What you suggest above means nothing, there is no real point to it other than trying to cheery pick some alt-right group that says they will vote for Trump. We can play this both ways all day long.

a reply to: Xtrozero
But the thread isn't about which group is larger.

It is about the double standard where XYZ Prides get a pass but White Pride is deemed negative.

The reason is simple, it is associated with racist groups.

Is it right or fair? I'd say no, but that is the reason.

originally posted by: daskakik

It is about the double standard where XYZ Prides get a pass but White Pride is negative.

The reason is simple, it is associated with racist groups.

Is it right or fair? I'd say no, but that is the reason.

They are both associated with racism, non-White ones are just accepted as OK within the normal double standard the liberals play. Whites just do not play that game and so White Pride is not part of their vocabulary. The other Prides follow the same logic as racist White Pride does, but we also have the old saying that minorities can not be racist.

All this doesn't stop liberals from suggesting White racism is far and wide when it actually isn't to a large margin. Now there is a larger point, why did the left start pushing separation once again around 2012? Before that, we all were deep on a path of no color and all of a sudden it seemed the liberal pushed everyone back to the 60s.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Unfortunately, I align with the likes of Lenin when it comes to imperialist ventures. I believe it's a bad process and it runs capitalism onto a monopolized set of rails, one way, the empires way. And absolute centralization always ends up in a massive boom, and one we may not recover from for a long, long time one day.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
They are both associated with racism, non-White ones are just accepted as OK within the normal double standard the liberals play.

That is what I said and have been saying.

Whites just do not play that game and so White Pride is not part of their vocabulary. The other Prides follow the same logic as racist White Pride does, but we also have the old saying that minorities can not be racist.

I think it follows the ideas put forth by strongfp, when Britain was the largest empire in the world and had the american colonies under it's thumb some colonials sought their independence. At that time "British Pride" among colonials was probably seen as negative, although it seems the idea here is that all pride should be OK, but we know that isn't how things usually work.

All this doesn't stop liberals from suggesting White racism is far and wide when it actually isn't to a large margin.

But it exists, just like racists exist in any group.

Now there is a larger point, why did the left start pushing separation once again around 2012? Before that, we all were deep on a path of no color and all of a sudden it seemed the liberal pushed everyone back to the 60s.

Can't really say but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't rooted in the black separatist ideas put out there by the likes of Farrakhan.

a reply to: daskakik

'Separate but equal' as a white saying is certainly not predominate.