Should we fear white pride?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Democrats were scared that after the white people elected Obama they couldn't play the race card for votes anymore, so they scrambled to bring racism back.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
'Separate but equal' as a white saying is certainly not predominate.

I never claimed it was.

I said I had heard it and it just so happened to be from three different people at different times talking about the same thing, the gist, each time was "I don't hate other races, I hope they do well and they should have equal rights as all americans, I just don't want to live with them. We should be able to have communities where only whites live and every race can live in their own community and if there are people that want to live together, they can live in their own community."

First time I heard it was in highschool from some headbangers, then heard it from a biker guy who I worked with in a machine shop and the last time was from a guy I got to know because we both played guitar and while we both liked classic rock he was more of a country player. All three were white and they had at least heard and liked that idea.

Of course, I then came across this same idea not only in writing by white power movement authors but you also have that gentrification scene in boyz n the hood with Laurence Fishburne telling some young black guys " Now, what we need to do is keep everything in our neighborhood, everything - black. Black owned with black money. Just like the Jews, the Italians, the Mexicans and the Koreans do."

So, I'm not saying it is just a white thing but it is a racist thing. I think we have established that. The difference is that minorities are given a pass because it is deemed an act of defense against acts by the majority. The majority doesn't get that pass because of their general situation in life.

Unfair? I think it is but, any way you slice it, that is the reason.

If I recall my history correctly...Separate, but equal was governmental policy not all that long ago.

It didn't work then, and what in the world makes anyone think it would work now??

Throw away all the gains of the past 50 plus years in civil rights and liberties...for what?

a reply to: daskakik

I specifically asked you for a slogan that means white racism. That is dominant in white culture, not prison culture which is very much divided along racial lines and normally isn't mainstream.


You cant can you?

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
I specifically asked you for a slogan that means white racism. That is dominant in white culture, not prison culture which is very much divided along racial lines and normally isn't mainstream.


You cant can you?

I didn't actually try, I gave an idea I came across which was racists although supposedly not hateful.

I never said there was one that was dominant in white culture, that was the whole point, keep the slogans that the fringe use, like "white pride world wide" or "you will not replace us", out of your mouth if you don't what to be considered part of that fringe.

a reply to: daskakik

THis is literally the FIRST time I've seen either of those slogans.

Got a source where these are mainstream?

Lunatic fringe is out there. You seemed to make it be like all of us are going around saying things like this, and then whining about being called racist.

It was your claim.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels
What part of "the fringe isn't mainstream" are you having trouble with?

Lunatic fringe is out there. You seemed to make it be like all of us are going around saying things like this, and then whining about being called racist.

It was your claim.

Derp, my claim was, if you don't want to be associated with the fringe don't use their slogans.

a reply to: daskakik

Derp, and my claim is that saying MAGA, White Pride, or America First, isn't the same as what these fringe groups are saying. But the association of these groups, even as the lunatic fringe, paints the entire group as the same racist.

a reply to: daskakik

F'k that. The LGBTR2D2 crowd already took the rainbow from us....

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
Derp, and my claim is that saying MAGA, White Pride, or America First, isn't the same as what these fringe groups are saying. But the association of these groups, even as the lunatic fringe, paints the entire group as the same racist.

It is when you have MAGA hats at rallys alongside those fringe members.

When someone calls their rally "unite the right" and you get Trump flags waved along with white power/white pride flags and skinheads in nazi garb, klansmen and magas marching together then the painting was made by them, that is why I said "Maybe blame the ones using the label like this" along with a pic.

a reply to: daskakik

'Unite the right' does NOT mean 'unite the white'.

FFS

a reply to: CoyoteAngels
I didn't say it meant that, but it does mean that those KKK members have come a long way from their southern democrat roots often brought up.

They are claiming for themselves to be part of the right, along with those national socialists who many claim are leftists.

Besides it is like someone said earlier:

I don't think you can blame the left that racists adopted MAGA as family. I can go find 100 examples within 10 minutes of MAGA supporters posting racist ideas and slurs. Did the left make people wear Camp Auschwitz t-shirts to storm the Capitol? Not all MAGA are racist, just as not all BLM people are thugs and criminals and on welfare.

a reply to: daskakik

You very cleverly changed the argument to 'unite the right' after talking about white pride, and I caught you.

I'll bet you there were many many many black power supremacists at the BLM riots, but lets not call the entire left racist... see how that works.

And how do we know that those fringy dumbasses are the real deal and not lefties / feebies running a psy-op?

That has happened too.

But if you want to keep pushing the 'guilt by association' BS, I'll keep arguing against it. But apply it all around and not selectively to whites nor to the right.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels
I haven't changed anything. I said that at some rallys, like unite the right, you see some magas mixed in with the fringe.

I'm not pushing anything, OP asked why the negative view of white pride when others get a pass. I gave an answer.

You seem to want to make it personal. Personally I don't have a problem with anyone: klan, skinheads, black panthers, antifa and every other group is free to believe as they like, as far as I'm concerned.

But, some people will, like the media, and all I'm saying is that these instances when seen marching together gives them a foothold to do so. That was what I saw as the correct answer.

a reply to: daskakik

I have to apologize. I'd forgotten that back in 2017, 5 years ago, that stupid group or morons in tan dickies in Charlottesville named their rally 'Unite the Right'. You werent the one to make the association.

Mea culpa.

originally posted by: strongfp

Unfortunately, I align with the likes of Lenin when it comes to imperialist ventures. I believe it's a bad process and it runs capitalism onto a monopolized set of rails, one way, the empires way. And absolute centralization always ends up in a massive boom, and one we may not recover from for a long, long time one day.

There are always countries trying to dominate the economics in the world. We have Russia trying to get the old team back together for a better position, We have China trying to own the world, we have Japan that tried the same, the EU was formed to create an economic superpower, and the Middle East wants their cut in the power and control. Upcoming will be India and South America...

It is all a never-ending dance...

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels

Democrats were scared that after the white people elected Obama they couldn't play the race card for votes anymore, so they scrambled to bring racism back.

I do think that is part of it. It also allowed the concept that there is a massive level of Institutional Racism that physically prevents minorities, especially Blacks, from ever getting ahead in life no matter what they do. Then it is the old vote for us so we can fix it event...

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: strongfp

We arent taught African, Arabic or Chinese history, are we?

Self-hating whites only are looking at European/American history.

We (that is to say, the normally educated public) are taught basically the history of the prevailing, now planetary level civilization, as would be expected (and, I suppose this includes those parts of world history which are relevant).

African, Arabic or Chinese history as a curriculum does exist at the college level and anyone interested is free to study them....

So, what was the problem again?

Nazi bitch. Can't have an understanding of genetics.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: daskakik

I have to apologize. I'd forgotten that back in 2017, 5 years ago, that stupid group or morons in tan dickies in Charlottesville named their rally 'Unite the Right'. You werent the one to make the association.

Mea culpa.

Yup. They yelled Jews will not replace us. Nazis