Liberal Logic That Just Makes You Shake Your Head In Reply

originally posted by: AlexandrosTheGreat
Only some people see it…and if they knew the WHOLE truth they’d see that none of it matters AND all of it matters simultaneously…

The only way to save this country at this point though, is to convince some group of marine or army guys to go and pull the entire White House out, shackled, then do the same on Capitol Hill, and let’s just start over…

There’s NOBODY on the fence regarding our being betrayed and robbed from and lied to for ages. They all simple need to be tied up and dropped.

I that filthy group helps us make it known hey, we may have gone lazy but we are back and you don’t DARE even THINK OF robbing this nation again…

We hold the next continental congress…we enshrine into the constitution a zero tolerance policy for fractional reserve, for digital money, and for any non precious metal backed money. We aren’t gonna go forward knowing it’s simply a question of WHO will become the most powerful and merciless criminal in the US, we will just not join the world in such stupidity period.

Then we can clarify and add or subtract anything that needs to be said or done, like an amendment honoring the preservation of freedom of speech and an amendment against any government right to censor anything, no matter how right how wrong or how hurtful…

It’s time to clean up this nation but sadly, we will let these criminals continue stealing trillions, making heir families rich, another century with homeless and hungry people all over when any decent country with our kind of wealth eliminates both homelessness and hunger in their first steps once rich enough. What do OUR REPS DO!? For ages!? They give it away to other people and people who hate us!

There’s another amendment, illegal to even SUGGEST foreign aid unless our debt is paid at that moment and our welfare programs have heathy balances to be ABLE to consider just sending good money away!

The fact those three things even haven’t been done for a hundred YEARS proves when you are honest with yourself, fact is the idea of America is beautiful, but it truly is a failed nation at the moment, hijacked by criminals. The fact we can even THINK anything is being run well without those things being LONG taken care of, prove that we are just the worlds piggy bank. And now that the world is all caught up, I guarantee not one nation we have been there for will help us pay our debt or in a crisis…

Say when and where if you lead I'll follow.

originally posted by: CanadianLoudMouth

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: CanadianLoudMouth

originally posted by: Threadbare
And yet the facts show that it's a very seldom used law.

Lying to ATF on gun-purchase form yields few prosecutions, data shows

People like you want total gun confiscation.

Yet you whine about enforcing a form that keeps guns out of the hands of drug addicts and spouse abusers.

Brilliant !

Nope I'm a hunter and own guns so that's incorrect.

I'm a Canadian lefty but would fit somewhere in the middle of US politics given my beliefs. But I'm not as extreme as the MAGAs that's for sure.
And this is the reason for the outage. Conservatives were screaming for Hunter to get charged with a charged that's hardly ever laid against someone. Yet the same people scream that Trump shouldn't be charged with any of the 91 charges against him, most of which seem to be backed by real evidence.

I wish I had a buck for every obvious hardcore lefty who said “I own lots of guns !” and “I voted Republican for 50 years until Trump !” And “I’ve owned several successful businesses !”.

Ummm, yeeeeaah.

Sorry, ill see myself out. I just had to peek inside to see what the HELL you meant by, “liberal logic.” I was like, “liberal LOGIC! There’s no such thing hmmmpf!” IIIIIII see though. Ok…

a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

Sorry, ill see myself out. I just had to peek inside to see what the HELL you meant by, “liberal logic.” I was like, “liberal LOGIC! There’s no such thing hmmmpf!” IIIIIII see though. Ok…

Liberal logic_ I hate you, for not hating everything I hate, including you!

Liberal Logic That Just Makes You Shake Your Head In Reply

There is no room for logic in the liberal world.

originally posted by: AlexandrosTheGreat
Sorry, ill see myself out. I just had to peek inside to see what the HELL you meant by, “liberal logic.” I was like, “liberal LOGIC! There’s no such thing hmmmpf!” IIIIIII see though. Ok…

It’s more of a documentary.

About the empty bottomless void with a little sign at the top saying “liberal logic”.

Trump is lacking in coherence, strong in inference, which is pretty much the the bulk of your last presentation..and you'd be surprised at the number of people who are familiar with Fragile X Syndrome, (none of of those people of whom I have had any contact with as yet) but, are of the same opinion as me, and that is Trump does have Fragile X, and or, Autism, or, God only knows what.

Fragile X is not commonly known to be passed down by the father, to a son..it is not passe though, and much is not clear about Autism, as is Fragile X..do you see what I am suggesting?

originally posted by: smurfy
Trump is lacking in coherence, strong in inference, which is pretty much the the bulk of your last presentation..and you'd be surprised at the number of people who are familiar with Fragile X Syndrome, (none of of those people of whom I have had any contact with as yet) but, are of the same opinion as me, and that is Trump does have Fragile X, and or, Autism, or, God only knows what.

Fragile X is not commonly known to be passed down by the father, to a son..it is not passe though, and much is not clear about Autism, as is Fragile X..do you see what I am suggesting?

Who are you actually talking to here..lol You are lacking coherency with your post.

So are you saying Trump has an IQ of about 55? As to autism, I think everyone has it at some level. The OP is also not about Trump but about the lack of logic from the left in their points of order.

I'm pretty liberal myself and my take is:
1. I've never heard the degenerative brain disorder thing. I just think he's highly narcissistic and kinda dumb, and basically another Ronald Reagan.

2. I do not, and have never cared about Hunter Biden, or anything related to Hunter Biden. It has zero bearing on anything.

3. This nation is so unbelievably divided on everything now and locked in a false dichotomy. It used to be nuanced. A person could be a Liberal but agree with a Conservative on some or even SEVERAL points. Nowadays, if a person doesn't wear the same color tie as you, you can assume they are totally the exact opposite of you, and statistically, that actually seems to have become true. BUT WHAT MADE IT HAPPEN? The more we make assumptions about a group, the more it creates the tendency for people to fall in with those assumptions, because you've drawn a line in the sand and essentially redefined what it means to be liberal, or conservative. I'm not saying you, specifically, but this is what our country has done over the last couple decades. So my advice to you, if you care to hear it, is that even though your assumption about a left leaning person's stances on issues might be correct, please don't assume, because it does ultimately further the divide.
I try to do the same with every consevative I talk to. It's not all monolithic. We're all just people.


As a liberal Democratic Socialist, I'll tell you how we're probably similar. Base level conservatism.
Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Press. Ability for everyone to have what they need to survive and live and be healthy. There's 3. Some liberals want censorship, but not all.
I just feel like the term liberal has been stolen and coopted, and I resent that.
Also, I used to be a journalist, and PLEASE, remember that news media is all about ratings, and divisive and incendiary content keeps viewers around to sell advertisements to. That's one of the reasons I'm not a news guy anymore, well, that and getting put on a terrorist watch list for reporting on a budget discrepancy. LOL.
Anyway, just trying to say let's all try harder to get along. This nation is WAY too divided.

a reply to: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: CanadianLoudMouth

And this is the reason for the outage. Conservatives were screaming for Hunter to get charged with a charged that's hardly ever laid against someone. Yet the same people scream that Trump shouldn't be charged with any of the 91 charges against him, most of which seem to be backed by real evidence.

So do you think Trump should be charged under the RICO ACT...lol That is what the Left does... Let's give Trump 91 charges hoping one sticks. You and I both know if Trump dropped out tomorrow all 91 charges would just go away. "seems to be backed by evidence" is such a crock of poo. BTW whether Hunter is convicted or not we both should agee he is a POS, it would be interesting to hear if you believe that too.

BTW it is the DOJ going after Hunter... You know the DOJ Biden is in control of. What this means is Joe's handlers have decided to throw Joe to the wolves and get him out of the way so they can bring in Newsom or someone else who isn't brain dead and might have a remote chance to win.

My stance in all cases is that if someone broke the law, they need to be charged. And everyone deserves their day in court to determine guilt or innocence Regardless of political party

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: CanadianLoudMouth
But I'm not as extreme as the MAGAs that's for sure.

Much of the so-called MAGA extremism was invented by the left to demonize Trump. Can you name 3 things that make this Maga group extreme?

I wouldn't say it was invented on the left at all. Again, in the US I would be considered a moderate. Someone in the middle. Trump has proven to be extremely obnoxious, non professional, and was considered a clown on the world scale.

Sure....

- Many MAGAs promote White Supremacy. Not all, but many
- Not respecting the results of a free and fair election. They tried to overthrow the peaceful transition of power. Doesn't matter how bitter you are, if your side loses, they lose. You'll get another chance in 4 years.
- They choose to ignore reality, facts and science. Climate change would be a great example.

Countries need less extremism, not more, on both sides of the equation. Both sides need a lot more moderates to bring the county together. Extremism, again on both sides, only divides.

originally posted by: TheValeyard

3. This nation is so unbelievably divided on everything now and locked in a false dichotomy. It used to be nuanced. A person could be a Liberal but agree with a Conservative on some or even SEVERAL points. Nowadays, if a person doesn't wear the same color tie as you, you can assume they are totally the exact opposite of you, and statistically, that actually seems to have become true. BUT WHAT MADE IT HAPPEN? The more we make assumptions about a group, the more it creates the tendency for people to fall in with those assumptions, because you've drawn a line in the sand and essentially redefined what it means to be liberal, or conservative. I'm not saying you, specifically, but this is what our country has done over the last couple decades. So my advice to you, if you care to hear it, is that even though your assumption about a left leaning person's stances on issues might be correct, please don't assume, because it does ultimately further the divide.
I try to do the same with every consevative I talk to. It's not all monolithic. We're all just people.


As a liberal Democratic Socialist, I'll tell you how we're probably similar. Base level conservatism.
Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Press. Ability for everyone to have what they need to survive and live and be healthy. There's 3. Some liberals want censorship, but not all.

a reply to: Xtrozero

You mean like the above poster who doesn't believe I could own guns after stating I lean slightly left? lol

The ironic part of that post was that I actually did like Reagan. And I did vote Conservative very early in my life. Right up until I realized that pure right-wing ideology seems to cause a lot more problems than it solves. At least in my humble opinion

got to love that one...

alternative thread title:

Whataboutism on double standards, or
we're all the same when it comes to politics and their echo chamber...

originally posted by: Threadbare
And yet the facts show that it's a very seldom used law.

Lying to ATF on gun-purchase form yields few prosecutions, data shows

Do you people believe "commonsense gun laws" prevent tragedy or not?

Let's flesh this out a little:
In order for "commonsense gun laws" to work, either criminals need to abide by these laws, or we need to enforce them.

If they don't work, then we can all agree to get rid of them.

See how that works?

originally posted by: dandandat2
We are now living in a post-convictions society.

The "double" standards exist on all sides and all sides cry about it while simultaneously engaging in it.

Our politicians make contradictory statements as they become implicated in controversies they previously decried; And their followers change their opinions on a dime based on the circumstances their leaders find themselves in.

Even here in ATS we see people regularly flip flopping as if they were at the beach. Take for example the impeachment preceding between Joe Biden and Donald Trump; the more liberal members are now making the same arguments the more conservative members made years ago and vice versa.

Personal convictions are now a thing of the past; replaced by tribalisum. "The Tribe can do no wrong" is the only thing that matters now.

IMO:

Both the GOP and DNC are corrupt and filled with criminals and crony capitalists. They are out to make as much money as possible for themselves and they represent big business and the military because they get kickbacks from both. None of them represent the American people because we can't afford to bribe them.

Trump's policies were actually good for the USA. Look at the bull# happening at our southern border right now and tell me we don't need a wall and border security. The biden administration spent the past few years tearing his wall down and tying the hands of ICE so they can't deport people. Flooding our country with illegal immigrants who are going to take jobs from our citizens right at the same time as there is a new wave of automation is the height of stupidity. It's just going to create millions of jobless and homeless people. Nor do I believe any metrics used regarding employment and homelessness I think they are much worse than we are being told.

Tariffs on China was also a good idea. Our country is over 30 trillion dollars in debt and the only trade we make should be profitable trade. Sending money to China should be out of the question.

Trying to get more businesses to open in the USA was also a good idea, and something he worked on until COVID happened. I think his arm was twisted on COVID and there wasn't much he could do about it. It was likely payback against the populists by the elite controlling DC.

Putting Trump in office just gives us 4 more years of reprieve.

The only real solution is overthrowing the federal government. We need another revolutionary war.

originally posted by: TheValeyard
This nation is so unbelievably divided on everything now and locked in a false dichotomy. It used to be nuanced. A person could be a Liberal but agree with a Conservative on some or even SEVERAL points.

If you and I sat down we would agree on many points. What we see today is a radical left assuming control of the liberal party. It started around 2012 under Obama as the radical minority just started to flex their muscles and the media loved it while the liberal leaders in the government embraced it as the new direction of where America needed to go. Then Trump came along like icing on a cake of their liberal extremism and it just blew up more from there. In the meantime, the right didn't push back for years until the extremism got so far over the top that they had no choice. Now the left says oh we are so divided, and I say well no SH!T...lol

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: Threadbare
And yet the facts show that it's a very seldom used law.

Lying to ATF on gun-purchase form yields few prosecutions, data shows

Do you people believe "commonsense gun laws" prevent tragedy or not?

Let's flesh this out a little:
In order for "commonsense gun laws" to work, either criminals need to abide by these laws, or we need to enforce them.

If they don't work, then we can all agree to get rid of them.

See how that works?

These are the same people who tell you with a straight face that there is no double standards being applied and also that no one is above the law......

a reply to: TheValeyard

As a liberal Democratic Socialist

I like this.

I like that communists are becoming more bold about asserting their beliefs.


It tells me that not only do you have a strong support for genocide but that you also have no idea what history has to say.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I have to laugh at the many posts that cry out that we're so divided.

During Obama's reign, we were called racist if we didn't like his policies.
During Hillary's nomination we were sexist if we didn't support her policies and we ended up being deplorable.
During Trumps presidency, we were Russian bots.
During covid if we didn't want a vax or wear a mask we were killing grandma.
During Biden's reign of terror, we're MAGA white supremacists if we don't obey.

And people wonder why we're so divided.



Hows THAT for liberal logic.

originally posted by: CanadianLoudMouth

My stance in all cases is that if someone broke the law, they need to be charged. And everyone deserves their day in court to determine guilt or innocence Regardless of political party

A great thing to say until the court system becomes a political weapon. How is all that going in Candia too? I hope you are not a truck driver.