Meat equals Prosperity

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Nearly 70% of Americans said the economy is getting worse, according to the poll, while only 22% said the economy is improving. Eighty-four percent of Americans said their cost of living is rising, and nearly half of Americans, 49%, blamed food and grocery prices as the main driver.

Many people of our generation really haven't seen a bad time. Sure there have been bumps in the economy and people have gone broke, but as a whole we've been a pretty well off society in America.

When a country is on it's way up and is getting prosperious one of the first thing people do is buy more meat.
China's hunger for meat is insatiable, why do you think they are gobbling up all our farms and animals?!
This has been true for as long as people have been around (in meat eating societies)

What we are seeing now in the US is the opposite.🤬 Food in general is getting more expensive and people are trying to do everything
to reduce their food costs. One of those things includes meat purchases.

In my personal opinion that is absolutely terrible.😥 They have tried to demonize meat in every way possible.
The powers that be, or whoever is behind it, failed terribly with fake and imitation meat products. They are terrible, and probably a thousand times worse for your health. I've seen a new trend on social media. All kinds of way to cook cheaply.... you guessed it, without meat.
One of the newest is a hispanic mom saying she has never worried about food problems with rice and beans. Others are sharing meatless pasta and veggie dishes....

We are almost at the point, where meat will separate the classes. (oh how they love that) There is nothing rich people love more than being exclusive and not having peons be able to eat the same thing as them. (If you read old books, you'll see that's a common theme).

a reply to: JAGStorm

A good way to gauge inflation is in diesel prices.

Thanks to Brandon, they went from $2.40 a gallon for years, then ballooned up to $5.70 per gallon in my area.

Several weeks ago, it dropped down to $4 per gallon. Now it’s shot back up to $4.80. I’m not even sure why they teased us for a couple weeks.

We are screwed.

I’ll also add that the meatless remedies you mentioned, will also cause obesity and diabetes. If I ate nothing but rice, beans, and pasta - I’d be 300 pounds…

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: JAGStorm

A good way to gauge inflation is in diesel prices.

Thanks to Brandon, they went from $2.40 a gallon for years, then ballooned up to $5.70 per gallon in my area.

Several weeks ago, it dropped down to $4 per gallon. Now it’s shot back up to $4.80. I’m not even sure why they teased us for a couple weeks.

We are screwed.

I’ll also add that the meatless remedies you mentioned, will also cause obesity and diabetes. If I ate nothing but rice, beans, and pasta - I’d be 300 pounds…

India is for the most part a vegetarian society and I heard a doctor talk about the rampant epidemic of diabetes both diagnosed and a bigger part undiagnosed.

My bf was vegan was so sickly, and when she resumed meat eating she looked 10 years younger.
Another friend is vegan and I thought she was like 15 years older than me but she is around my same age.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I’ve yet to meat a vegetarian that has proper muscle mass for their body size. They are all very frail looking.

I watched the news last night, for fun, and had a good laugh.

"Groceries are coming down in cost!" Eggs and a couple other items were mentioned, as coming down like 30 percent since 2021.

Hmm.. Didn't not hear them mention that they had skyrocketed during covid to over 4.00 a dozen.
They aren't down to 1.00 like they were.

Anyone that believes their BS, I feel sorry for.
I have been keeping some of my receipts for a year now. For instance, 1 gal. Great value water, was .98. 1 week ago it was 1.34.

Thankfully, I don't have to buy meat. I like to look at the prices though, just for sticker shock. And I get it every time.
So, I've been helping one kid and a friend out, and just giving them hamburger. Way better than store bought anyway.

originally posted by: chiefsmom
I watched the news last night, for fun, and had a good laugh.

"Groceries are coming down in cost!" Eggs and a couple other items were mentioned, as coming down like 30 percent since 2021.

Hmm.. Didn't not hear them mention that they had skyrocketed during covid to over 4.00 a dozen.
They aren't down to 1.00 like they were.

Anyone that believes their BS, I feel sorry for.
I have been keeping some of my receipts for a year now. For instance, 1 gal. Great value water, was .98. 1 week ago it was 1.34.

"Groceries are coming down in cost!" Eggs and a couple other items were mentioned, as coming down like 30 percent since 2021.

What they fail to mention in those statistics is that from 2020 prices went up 500%. So 30% off of 500% is the reality of the situation. Here eggs were .69 cents a dozen in 2020. Then because of the plandemic, they went up to around $6 per dozen. If the price goes down 30% off that $6, that lowers the price to only $4 per dozen. Isn't that still around 500% of what they used to be?

In 2020, milk was .69 a gallon here. I'll admit that the next month, the "new low price" was .79 cents per gallon, and the following month the same thing happened and it was .89 cents per gallon. But, today milk is $5.52 per gallon. That is more than a 500% increase. That is the reality of the situation today - there's no way to get around it.

Can't afford steak.
I miss steak!
Can't afford hamburgers.
I'd LOVE a hamburger drenched in ketchup!
Can't afford fish.
I'd LOVE some ocean sea food!
Eating lots of chicken.
Sick of chicken but at least we can afford it (for now).

originally posted by: JAGStorm
We are almost at the point, where meat will separate the classes. (oh how they love that) There is nothing rich people love more than being exclusive and not having peons be able to eat the same thing as them. (If you read old books, you'll see that's a common theme).

It's funny...

When one goes full carnivore - which obviously means you're no longer spending any money on junk food - I have found it is actually cheaper than before. Junk food keeps you hungry. Meat is totally satiating, and if you don't have much money, ground beef is extremely cheap, and even the conventional kind is far, far healthier than any other food you can eat, although it can get a little boring, especially if you forego spices and sauces too (I actually do still miss them, and sometimes indulge - I still love the flavor you get in a burger just adding a little high quality Worcestershire sauce.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Can't afford hamburgers.

Baloney. Ground beef is extremely cheap.

I'd LOVE a hamburger drenched in ketchup!

Ketchup is mainly sugar, so not surprising. Stop eating junk food, including anything with added sugar, which means - no ketchup!

Can't afford steak.
I miss steak!
Can't afford fish.
I'd LOVE some ocean sea food!

Steak is awesome, so just save it for special occasions.

Wait for specials/sales, and buy a bunch and freeze it.

Eating lots of chicken.
Sick of chicken but at least we can afford it (for now).

But chicken has no fat to speak of, you'll get rabbit starvation from just eating that. You need healthy saturated fats.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Can't afford steak.
I miss steak!
Can't afford hamburgers.
I'd LOVE a hamburger drenched in ketchup!
Can't afford fish.
I'd LOVE some ocean sea food!
Eating lots of chicken.
Sick of chicken but at least we can afford it (for now).

Let me tell you a fish story. My daughter was going back to school and requested salmon for dinner. I only can stomach wild caught. Husband went to Costco and got two big packages of fresh wild caught salmon. It was 65 dollars! (Easily feed 5 or 6 people). I opened it and was almost knocked to the ground. The smell was horrible, it was not only rancid, I believe it was actually farm raised that they had labeled as wild. It wasn’t dark at all. I don’t know if it was a mistake or because it was bad or it was bad because it was repackaged. I’ve never ever had this kind of issue with Costco.

We hardly ever return anything, but this was just too much. We returned both packages, one slightly opened the other not opened. The return lady scolded my husband “you know we have to throw these away” My husband said “I sure hope so!” And that really disturbed me. I really do hope they are throwing rancid food away.

Our big splurge is a chub of hamburger.

It's 20 dollars but we portion and freeze and can get twelve patties out of it.

Goes great with scalloped potatoes.

Eggs and a bulk pack of sandwich meat is about all we can afford right now.

My husband has a severe aversion to chicken and even pork around these parts is pricey.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

My husband has a severe aversion to chicken and even pork around these parts is pricey.

Chicken is tasting way too much like fish these days, I’m sure it’s the feed.
I get Amish chicken and it’s pretty good but very expensive and they are little (like they are supposed to be).

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Baloney. Ground beef is extremely cheap.

What do you pay for hamburger? I just bought some a couple weeks ago and it was $5.09 per pound. That is not the definition of "cheap" to me.

And don't even get me started on bologna. It used to be a cheap cut of meat, but I paid $7.99 for a pound a half last week.

I want to live where you live. It sounds like a fairyland that inflation hasn't made it to yet.

a reply to: JAGStorm

The US has always (until now it seems) had low retail prices on food and auto fuel due to government subsisdies. The industries can no longer make a worse product so the only way to squeeze out more profits is to raise the price. Not sure how the TAXPAYER subsidies have change over the years but, I suspect, thanks to insane budgeting practices by our corporately sponsored congress, that they have gone way down in order to raise the *$#@!! "Military/intelligence/Surveilance Budget"

a reply to: TrulyColorBlind

And don't even get me started on bologna. It used to be a cheap cut of meat, but I paid $7.99 for a pound a half last week.

You do know that bologna (fancy word for baloney) is asses and elbows, right?

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Baloney. Ground beef is extremely cheap.

What do you pay for hamburger? I just bought some a couple weeks ago and it was $5.09 per pound. That is not the definition of "cheap" to me.

One lb of ground beef is a meal in itself.

You don't think $5 for one meal isn't cheap?

And don't even get me started on bologna. It used to be a cheap cut of meat, but I paid $7.99 for a pound a half last week.

Lol... I meant baloney meaning, bull# - I hate baloney...

originally posted by: KKLOCO
You do know that bologna (fancy word for baloney) is asses and elbows, right?

Yes. That's why I called it a cheap cut of meat. I was just being polite and not listing the ingredients in case someone that might read my comment and who likes bologna would get turned off from it if they knew what was really in it.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

"originally posted by:TrulyColorBlind
What do you pay for hamburger? I just bought some a couple weeks ago and it was $5.09 per pound. That is not the definition of "cheap" to me."

One lb of ground beef is a meal in itself.

You don't think $5 for one meal isn't cheap?

"originally posted by:TrulyColorBlind
And don't even get me started on bologna. It used to be a cheap cut of meat, but I paid $7.99 for a pound a half last week.

Lol... I meant baloney meaning, bull# - I hate baloney...

Why did you deflect and not answer my question? The subject is not about how much or how little a meal with meat should cost, but about how food prices are going up. Was it that hard for you to say what the price of hamburger is where you're located? Do you have something to hide? Is hamburger a state secret where you're at? Like I said, I think the price of hamburger is not cheap. Especially when I can remember it when it was .69 cents a pound.

Obviously, I like bologna or I wouldn't have paid $7.99 for a pound and a half of it. N'est-ce pas?

I live in the Caribbean. NOT rich, not even close to close. My bride and me are both retired, each with a side gig which pays a little. Retirement means nothing, other than the point at which you no longer get paid for your efforts. Selah.

We fish a bit, or buy local fish. We eat a LOT of local feral chickens. Almost no fat on them, but they also don't have any growth hormones or antibiotics in them. We've worked hard all our lives, and the economy sucks. We grow what we can and live lean. Whatever happens in the U.S. is reflected here.

Good luck everybody. I am a conservationist, and a scientist. I think carbon credit trading is a huge lie which doesn't do a damn thing for cleaning up the planet, or helping the people. Every now and then, somebody kills a pig, and we buy pork. It is good and fresh. Haven't had a decent steak in years, nor scallops -- my favorite -- and don't expect to have any in the near future. Still, life is relatively safe, and I feel blessed to be as old and healthy as I am. I can swim in the sea any time I choose and sunsets have never been so beautiful.

ETA: hamburger here is the U.S. equivalent of $9.00/lb. Gasoline is the U.S. equivalent of $8.50/gallon.

We made friends with a farm family who owns the local farm market. That meat is so lean, that even the bacon hardly has drippings. It's not cheap, but the local grocery store is a complete ripoff on everything including their meats.

I'll probably shoot Bambi this year, or at least demand some cuts from my buddies who hunt my property with me. I can make some good jerky from the crappy cuts even.