Evidence of Joe Biden’s Involvement in His Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes

a reply to: WingDingLuey

Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Corruption

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a reply to: burntheships

A speech given mere weeks into Shokin stepping back in to the Prosecutor General role is hardly reflective of how Shokin came to viewed nor his eventual actions or lack thereof.

a reply to: Threadbare

For example, the "anti-corruption team" has nothing to do with the Prosecutor General's office. It's a separate bureau that goes under the acronym NABU and was established by the Verkhovna Rada in October 2014 as part of the requirements set by the IMF.

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"The amazing thing is not that he was sacked but that it has taken so long," Aslund said. "Petro Poroshenko appointed Shokin to the role in February 2015. From the outset, he stood out by causing great damage even to Ukraine's substandard legal system." But there is a long list of Western organizations, governments, and diplomats, as well as Ukrainian anti-corruption groups, that wanted to see Shokin fired.

They include the International Monetary Fund, the European Union, the U.S. government, foreign investors, and Ukrainian advocates of reform.

www.rferl.org...

To an outsider, it seems strange that Shokin was allowed to do so much damage for so long, but he has clearly enjoyed Poroshenko’s full confidence and is even godfather to one of Poroshenko’s children.

The reason for the delay became clear today. Minutes before his demise, Shokin sacked Deputy Prosecutor General Davit Sakvarelidze, who has actually fought corruption. Vitaliy Kasko, another young deputy prosecutor general, gave up and resigned in mid-February, understanding that the prosecutor general’s office could not be reformed from within. As a consequence, Shokin has cleansed it from young intruders who want to prosecute wrongdoing. First Deputy Prosecutor General Yuriy Sevruk, a reliable old Shokin hand, has become acting prosecutor general.

The ousters of Sakvarelidze and Kasko are more significant than the long-overdue retirement of the 64-year-old Shokin. These two young prosecutors became famous for arresting the top prosecutor in Kyiv after finding vast amounts of cash, gold, and precious stones in his office. Shokin responded by prosecuting them for this and Kasko just had his assets frozen. Shokin has also instigated a case against a leading anticorruption activist in Kyiv, Vitaliy Shabunin, and the Poroshenko Bloc has expelled two deputies, Mykola Tomenko and Yegor Firsov, from parliament under a controversial law it recently adopted. Their crime was their protests against corruption.

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a reply to: Threadbare

That is not the only issue at hand.

Again, here is a 10 year timeline.
oversight.house.gov...

Can you show how each of these incidents are
all above board?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Cool, more post firing sources.


You do understand what I asked....right?

a reply to: burntheships

Notice how in every one of those instances the term "Biden family" is used. Not one of them says that Biden received any money from these business deals made by his son.

Do you know why?

Because there are no records showing that Biden received any money from these deals.

Did Hunter use his father's name to gain an advantage in the business world? Absolutely.

Did Biden have a hand in any of Hunter's business dealings? As of right now, there doesn't seem to be any evidence to support that claim.

a reply to: JinMI

You said you were paywall blocked to the other ones. You're looking for information from over 8 years ago. So, I'm posting what was common knowledge 8 years ago. Shokin was internationally known as corrupt and distrusted. There was a lot of money on the line, and Shokin had to go.

But, you think Joe Biden alone launched a campaign to fire Shokin because he was on to some family criming the Bidens were up to. Where's your 8 year old documentation, other than an old man's bragging and taking credit for something that was an international effort.

a reply to: JinMI

How about the words of the Deputy General Prosecutor shortly before Shokin's ouster:

Today, the General Prosecutor’s office is a brake on the reform of criminal justice, a hotbed of corruption, an instrument of political pressure, one of the key obstacles to the arrival of foreign investment in Ukraine,

Source

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: burntheships

Notice how in every one of those instances the term "Biden family" is used. Not one of them says that Biden received any money from these business deals made by his son.

I asked you to show how they are all above board,
as many of them do mention Joe Biden, and all
are tied directly to Joe Biden.

If your trying to help your team, you will need to post sources.

a reply to: burntheships

One mentions Biden having met with the Romanian President. Another mentions that Biden was no longer VP when Hunter made his deal with the Chinese energy company.

The rest don't mention him.

So what exactly do you need me to provide sources to when your own source doesn't even say Hidden benefited from Hunter's business dealings?

a reply to: Threadbare

Two sentences of your own opinions don't count
for anything. I posted sources with timeline,
incidents and names, places, documents,
texts and emails.

Try to disprove even just one of them using a source.
You do know what a source is, right?

ETA: Timeline again for your convenience.
oversight.house.gov...

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Shokin was internationally known as corrupt and distrusted. There was a lot of money on the line, and Shokin had to go.

That talking point has been debunked. Not only from your own provided source but now from Shokin as well.

But, you think Joe Biden alone launched a campaign to fire Shokin because he was on to some family criming the Bidens were up to.

Not only do I think that, thats what evidence shows.

Shell companies, testimony, timeline etc.

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a reply to: Threadbare

From your source.....

Vladislav Kutsenko, an aide to Shokin, dismissed Kasko’s resignation as self-publicity.

You guys can't get out of your own way.

a reply to: MetalThunder

As that witness said, Weiss had a grand jury for
three years, and never call him to testify.

Three years!

What a sham, think we knew that already, but
that pattern... well all of the witnesses were ignored
for so long. Devon Archer, Bobulinski, on and on.

originally posted by: Threadbare

Because there are no records showing that Biden received any money from these deals.

Did Hunter use his father's name to gain an advantage in the business world? Absolutely.

I wanted to address this specifically, as I see it is
a talking point in the media.

The law recognizes that payments to family members to corruptly
influence others can constitute a bribe.

www.trade.gov...

The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) states that companies
also may violate the FCPA if they give payments or gifts to third parties,
such as an official’s family members, as an indirect way of corruptly influencing
a foreign official. What services, if any, did the Bidens and their associates provide
in exchange for the over $20 million in foreign payments?

In addition, was Hunter Biden registered with FARA all of those years
from 2014 to 2019? Did he follow all of the guidelines?

a reply to: burntheships

I wanted to address this specifically, as I see it is
a talking point in the media.

I'm old enough to remember when the talking point was "joe biden had no conversations about his sons business dealings."

Which cleverly morphed into "joe biden had no involvement with his sons business."

a reply to: burntheships

Does a source that's actually reviewed all of the "evidence" count?

[url=https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/news/press-releases/as-the-house-returns-to-session-ranking-member-raskin-releases-statement-on-the]Source[/ url]

a reply to: JinMI

President Trump was right, and Jake Tapper said so,
Joe lied to the American people about his involvement.

Joe don't care!