Evidence of Joe Biden’s Involvement in His Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes

If Hunter and Joe shared a bank Account and Hunter paid Dads bills, how is that not direct evidence of Joe being involved?

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

They cut his mic now to keep him from finishing his rambles.

Perhaps they have played him out to the end, we shall see.

There is no Second Term for ' Joe Biden ' that is a fact .

I'm looking past him now he is a non-issue he is not relevant though yes I would like to see him and his son Answer for their Crimes , I'm trying to figure out who The Left is gonna run in his stead who is truly pulling the strings here ?

Jill Biden ? Barack Obama ? or just some nameless Powerful-Hand in the Dark.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Perhaps we can have more chants to "Lock them up" like Hillary. Those really seemed to get the audience all fired up!!

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Not quite sure who they would pick, I keep hearing
Mrs Obama? IMO, I think they would rather have
Gavin Newsom, Gov of CA.

He is related to Nancy Pelosi, she is making the rounds
on the news today throwing shade at Kamala and Biden.
She could boss Gavin around like a toy.

a reply to: Threadbare

Yeah yeah, that is the talking point I see.

"Nothing to see here move along".

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

Biden seemed to boast about it, saying that during a visit to Kyiv -- likely in December 2015 -- he told Ukrainian officials: "We're leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money."

"Well, son of a bitch," Biden continued. "He got fired."

Shokin was indeed fired, but not until March that year.

LOL
You need to look past the headlines. You're looking silly!

two months before Hunter Biden joined Burisma's board, British authorities had requested information from Shokin's office as part of an investigation into alleged money laundering by Zlochevskiy. Shokin ignored them.

Kaleniuk and AntAC published a detailed timeline of events surrounding the Burisma case, an outline of evidence suggesting that three consecutive chief prosecutors of Ukraine -- first Shokin’s predecessor, then Shokin, and then his successor -- worked to bury it.

"Ironically, Joe Biden asked Shokin to leave because the prosecutor failed [to pursue] the Burisma investigation, not because Shokin was tough and active with this case," Kaleniuk said.

www.rferl.org...

"The American media reported that Shokin's case against Ukrainian energy company Burisma had gone "dormant," and that by pressing for Lutsenko's appointment, Biden was quashing corruption, even if that meant subjecting his own son to investigation in the process. Hunter Biden was on the company's board from 2014 till 2019. However, documents collected by Berruyer show that Shokin's Burisma probe was far from "dormant." Shokin himself even told ABC News that his office had six investigations into Burisma open at the time of his resignation.

Lutsenko, he said, "stopped all those cases."

ABC didn't air this part of the interview, and the American media - including the Washington Post and the New York Times - continue to label Shokin's investigation "dormant," despite a number of publicly available documents showing otherwise and presented in the documentary."

www.sott.net...

originally posted by: carewemust

Its a formal process that cant drag on for 12 months like the Jan6 committee circus did.

Oh, I hope so. Hopefully the Bidens will all not cooperate
and it will drag on and on and on.

Let's face it, anything coming from the democrats about disinformation is in fact disinformation itself. The evidence the pee tape and Hunters laptop. The first we were told endlessly existed and then was proven to come from opposition research paid for by Hillary! Then we get to Hunters laptop. 51 intelligence officers said it was Russian disinformation. But that was proven also to be a lie. Ohh and that was also because of democrats contacting media and social media to squash the story! So why am I going to believe the democrats pushing this no evidence for an impeachment? Their track record is dismal for that to be believable!

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Biden was appointed by Obama a the head of a US Convoy to Ukraine, to carry out US policy, which was to tell Ukraine to get rid of Shokin, or no $$$. The IMF had the same policy.

How about you show us where the IMF was suggesting Shokin be fired.......

a reply to: JinMI

Envoys pushed to oust Ukraine prosecutor before Biden

In addition to the US and the EU, senior IMF officials, including Christine Lagarde, the former managing director, forcefully called on Ukraine to boost its reform efforts, including anti-corruption measures, in early 2016, before Mr Shokin was ousted. The fund’s focus was on institutions rather than individuals, IMF officials said.

“Poroshenko will have to come up with something very meaningful in terms of cabinet changes and perhaps even a change in the much-criticised public prosecutor’s office to regain credibility,” he said.

The president has come under pressure at home and internationally for refusing to replace a long-time loyalist, Viktor Shokin, as chief prosecutor. Mr Shokin has been criticised for failing to bring to justice any of the snipers who killed dozens of protesters in central Kiev in the final days of the revolution, and for dragging his feet over investigating senior officials and businesspeople.

IMF warning sparks Ukraine pledge on corruption and reform
Lagarde threat to suspend $40bn aid package elicits swift response from Kiev

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Your link is paywalled....

In addition to the US and the EU, senior IMF officials, including Christine Lagarde, the former managing director, forcefully called on Ukraine to boost its reform efforts, including anti-corruption measures, in early 2016, before Mr Shokin was ousted. The fund’s focus was on institutions rather than individuals, IMF officials said.

My point, thank you.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Except that is not why Shokin was fired.

"I have said repeatedly in my previous interviews that Poroshenko fired me at the insistence of then Vice President, because I was investigating Burisma." "There were no complaints whatsoever, no problems, with how I was performing at my job, but because pressure was repeatedly put on President Poroshenko, that is, what ended up in him firing me," Shokin said.

"I developed a very firm understanding of the fact that Vice President, the Vice President was only acting in his own interests. He generally speaking, handled Ukraine like it was his own backyard. He would put people that were suitable for him. He would arrange for them to be put in certain positions."

thepostmillennial.com...

Not to mention there is Joe Biden's own admission,
which is hilariously ironic at this point.

a reply to: burntheships

What you have is Joe Biden bragging and taking personal credit for an Intenational effort, including the US Envoy to Ukraine, formed by President Obama that he appointed Biden to head, to oust Shokin.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Well son of a gun, that sounds embellishing.

So your saying that Biden spins a lot of tales then?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: burntheships

What you have is Joe Biden bragging and taking personal credit for an Intenational effort, including the US Envoy to Ukraine, formed by President Obama that he appointed Biden to head, to oust Shokin.

Except that in 2015 a speech from now-Secretary of State Antony Blinken praisied Ukraine’s "anti-corruption" efforts when Viktor Shokin was the country’s prosecutor general, under Obama.

It is going to be impossible to change the narrative
on this one it seems. Next?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: burntheships

What you have is Joe Biden bragging and taking personal credit for an Intenational effort, including the US Envoy to Ukraine, formed by President Obama that he appointed Biden to head, to oust Shokin.

Except, its not looking like an international effort at all....

a reply to: burntheships

Shokin must have a very bad memory. There was extreme pressure for Poroshenko to remove Shokin over a month before Biden's visit.

Why Poroshenko’s Support for Shokin Is Dangerous

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: carewemust
The Classified Documents stolen and kept for years by Senator/VP Biden, will be the biggest crime in his criminal portfolio.
:

Perhaps he declassified them with his mind like trump did.


www.politico.com...

biden didn't have the authority to declassify at the time he wasn't president

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: carewemust

Don't forget that Republicans in the Senate already looked into Hunter's business dealings in 2020 and were unable to turn up anything tying Biden to them.

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: CoyoteAngels

The court ruled yesterday that unless Trump can prove he declassified a document, all documents marked classified will be treated as such.

links and proof ???

Lets Not Forget this Gem

Flashback

'Joe Biden is a criminal': Obama-era staffer blows whistle on Biden's business deals

a reply to: Threadbare

Long timeline going back 10 years or more.
You have your work cut out if you are going
to debunk all of that evidence LOL.

oversight.house.gov...



However, When Antony Blinken was serving as deputy secretary of state to
John Kerry under Obama, he gave a speech in Berlin in March 2015 saying of
Ukraine that it had achieved probably the best government it had seen since
its independence.

"It’s been working to undertake deep and comprehensive economic and political reforms,"

"These include laws to enhance transparency in public procurement, to reduce the government inefficiency and corruption. To clean up Ukraine’s energy sector, to make the banking system more transparent, and measures to improve the climate for business and attract foreign investment. To create a new anti-corruption agency. To strengthen the prosecutor general’s office."