Scientists grow whole model of human embryo, without sperm or egg

a reply to: andy06shake

The answer will be unsettling to some, no matter on what side it lands...

If I imagine flipping a coin, my deductive logic implies it's the coin that's unsettling....

It's late....

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: tanstaafl

because these are not actually embryos

Why not?

What's diffrent between a textbook embryo and this?

-sigh-

Oh, just a little thing, like... you know... a real embryo is actually capable of growing into a fully developed healthy human baby - this one isn't.

a reply to: Terpene

If I imagine flipping a coin, my deductive logic implies it's the coin that's unsettling....

Well if you try it with a note, its apt to blow away.

It is a bit late.

Louise Brown
The birth of the world's first 'test-tube baby', Louise Brown, on 25 July 1978 in Oldham, northwest England has come to represent the origin story of technologically assisted human reproduction.

a reply to: AlienBorg

a reply to: tanstaafl

Because of the legal limitations of this type of research, the embryo is not allowed to develop past a certain time frame.

So we have no way to know whether or not these embryos will continue to grow in a normal development resulting in a baby.

Even then, we don't know if those babies are going to have diminished lifespans or other flaws.

So without the ability to continue with the natural development of these lifeforms, we have no way to draw a finite conclusion.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Are you sure?
Sounds like a fact, but it's just an opinion!

Why do you think this embryo model isn't vital beyond?

what's your reasoning for such a guess presented as truth?

Without reasoning what we claim, one admits to not having any reasonable arguments.

Look it's simple :

They are vital beyond, is my guess.

14 days is just the legal cap to terminate them, and there wouldn't be a law if they weren't viable beyond. Is my reasoning.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: tanstaafl

Are you sure?
Sounds like a fact, but it's just an opinion!

Why do you think this embryo model isn't vital beyond?

what's your reasoning for such a guess presented as truth?

Without reasoning what we claim, one admits to not having any reasonable arguments.

Look it's simple :

They are vital beyond, is my guess.

14 days is just the legal cap to terminate them, and there wouldn't be a law if they weren't viable beyond. Is my reasoning.

I just quickly scanned the article but it seems they are not viable in themselves but they can be made viable with the help of scientists' tweaking all along the way.

a reply to: djz3ro

They grew up already. Wonder why 33% of humans refuse to face facts (like Covid was intentional, 911 inside job etc) They are already walking amongst us voting all these reptiles in forever... Clone wars is here and now

a reply to: HUBE007

Maybe we found the MSNBC, CNN watchers.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: tanstaafl

... we have no way to know whether or not these embryos will continue to grow in a normal development resulting in a baby.

What they grew was something that 'closely resembles an early human embryo'.

I can safely say with 100% certainty that there is no way that can grow into a baby. No way.

So without the ability to continue with the natural development of these lifeforms, we have no way to draw a finite conclusion.

Give me a break...

Here, let me borrow a phrase from the pro-baby killers that actually applies here...

What they have grown is nothing more than a clump of cells. That is all.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: tanstaafl

Are you sure?

Yes.

Next question.

a reply to: tanstaafl

I have been speaking from a scientific point of view up until now, trying to keep emotion and my spiritual perspective silent.

The only way these embryos will achieve viability is if God allows it.

I firmly believe in that.

If it is meant to be, it will be.

Nothing happens that is not part of the Divine Plan.

Everything happens in it's time, and maybe one day the world will be ready for such things.

Maybe not.

Time will tell.

I'm not the one in control, so I can't predict anything.

a reply to: StratosFear

Species

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES

Louise Brown
The birth of the world's first 'test-tube baby', Louise Brown, on 25 July 1978 in Oldham, northwest England has come to represent the origin story of technologically assisted human reproduction.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Which post are you replying to?
The above is an example of IVF (the first ever). But still this process involves fertilization of an egg cell by a sperm cell despite the fact it happens outside the body.

a reply to: AlienBorg

It was in reference to the "being born of a woman" part of your post.

Usually that implies gestation in the womb and the birth process.

Technically, even though sperm and ova were used to create the conception, she wasn't technically "born of a woman".

I should have quoted the part of your post I was responding to, and I apologize for my error and oversight.

this gives me Clonus Horror/Tender is the Flesh vibes

a reply to: DBCowboy

A billion years of evolution, with an infinite number of unknowable pressures forming the lifeforms on Earth, and here we are. It had to happen because some rich guys think they can improve on God's work. Any fool should know how this will end.

Genesis 6:4 reads as follows: The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown. Matthew 24:37-39. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. The Anunnaki made the Nephilim. Nothing new here, except that day by day, the Bible stories come into fruition.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Without reasoning what we claim, one admits to not having any reasonable arguments.... Next baseless claim..

a reply to: tanstaafl

What they grew was something that 'closely resembles an early human embryo'.

I can safely say with 100% certainty that there is no way that can grow into a baby. No way.

You are guessing again! And have no reasoning for your guess. Thats also called wishful thinking or simply confirmation bias.

How can you say?
Why is there a legal 14 day cap to terminate them?

So after I explained you why this is a rhetorical falacy without argument.

next time you use the same methods it basically becomes lying.

Help yourself and look up argumentum ad lapidem...