Which Person Would Go To Heaven?

Person A, They are the most purest soul around and super friendly beyond measure. They do charity work and help people and don’t do much wrong against others. But they don’t believe in God and are not religious.

Person B, They have raped and murdered many people and show no remorse or care for their actions. They do not care for people and doing anything positive or good. But they do believe in God, They love God and read the Bible every single day and go to Church.

This probably isn’t a proper realistic scenario and it’s not meant to be. I’d just like to see what other people’s thoughts and opinions are about this. I do believe in God but don’t really understand certain parts of the Bible and Christianity and this kind of question has always been interesting to me.

a reply to: Techno92LFC

if you don't believe in the bible fantasy, there is also no heaven to go to...

so the heaven of the bible will be populated by every kind of person, and the life they lived is unimportant, so long they submitted themselves to someone else's will, and confess for their sins heaven is open to them.

An eternity of hypocrites and double standards?
thanks but no, thanks.

a reply to: Techno92LFC

We have to connect to God so person A can't go to heaven because they believe it doesn't exist. Person B would be thrown out of heaven.

If the world ended today the first job in heaven would be to throw out all the bad souls that connected to God because we connect to Him not the other way round.

a reply to: Techno92LFC

Even Satan believes in God, but continues to rebel against Him.

According to the Bible, you not only have to believe in God, you're supposed to repent of your sins and surrender your life to Jesus/God knowing that He is the only one who can save it. Not partial faith and surrender, but full faith, knowing, and understanding of this truth. Only the Holy Spirit can provide that to you. It is not of ourselves and our own understanding. But to start, you have to sincerely seek and ask God to provide you with that level of understanding.

www.gotquestions.org...

Matthew 16:15-17

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

a reply to: Cwantas

the first job in heaven would be to throw out all the bad souls that connected to God

Lol... Is that what it say in the Bible?

Or do you set the rules on who's to be in heaven, and who isn't?

a reply to: Deetermined

Only the Holy Spirit can provide that to you. It is not of ourselves and our own understanding. But to start, you have to sincerely seek and ask God to provide you with that level of understanding.

Is that some form of possession, or just voices in your head?

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: Cwantas

the first job in heaven would be to throw out all the bad souls that connected to God

Lol... Is that what it say in the Bible?

Or do you set the rules on who's to be in heaven, and who isn't?

Christ determines who will be allowed into heaven, bad souls who don't connect to God, who flee from the light won't receive Christs judgment in this respect...but there are bad souls who do connect to God, and those souls will receive Christs judgment.

"Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock"

a reply to: Techno92LFC

The person with the repentant heart who seeks forgiveness and shows the fruit of the Spirit, is in debt to Jesus


Matthew 7:21-23 ESV - I Never Knew You - "Not everyone who - Bible Gateway
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' 23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you

a reply to: Terpene

We still have free will, but It is a willingness to align our own will to that of God's. It won't make us perfect, but it will provide us with grace and mercy until we correct it.

ATS Prohibits me telling you.

RIP ....ATS FOR YOU ARE DEAD AMD YOU DONT KNOW IT.

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a reply to: Techno92LFC

a reply to: Deetermined

So it's not voices in your head...

Sounds like a nice description for consensual possession. That indeed can apear as free will, but Is it really yours...

Do you even remeber the one doing the free will before you gave yourself up to an anthropomorphic being?

a reply to: DeathSlayer

You mean it's becoming a death end as a recruiting tool for Christianity?

Don't let the door hit you on your way out...

a reply to: Cwantas

you have power over God you think?

we connect to Him not the other way round.

that is the most curious piece of religious bs I have ever read

a reply to: Cwantas

J.C. didn't make it to 'heaven'.
It is right there in the Abrahamic lore if you would care enough to think about it:
have no God next to me he said.
So in that context declaring yourself God or equal to God is the original sin of Christianity.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Cwantas

J.C. didn't make it to 'heaven'.
It is right there in the Abrahamic lore if you would care enough to think about it:
have no God next to me he said.
So in that context declaring yourself God or equal to God is the original sin of Christianity.

You're in your rights to interpret however you like to interpret, it makes no difference to me.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Cwantas

you have power over God you think?

we connect to Him not the other way round.

that is the most curious piece of religious bs I have ever read

Then believe it to be bull#.

a reply to: Cwantas

You shall have no other God's before me

i am not aware that there is room for interpretation other than what I said?

a reply to: Cwantas

which means you have no reason or thought process behind why you think you have power over God other than because you said it and that's that?

a reply to: Peeple

Change God with humans and it sums up religions pretty neatly...

Obviously it attracts humans with similar attitudes....

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Cwantas

which means you have no reason or thought process behind why you think you have power over God other than because you said it and that's that?

I've no idea what you're talking about.