Trump will finally deliver proof of 2020 election Fraud - 2024 now in question?

a reply to: Byrd

But we should acknowledge that neither of us were involved in the investigation and so neither knows the full facts and neither of us are lawyers or lawyers practicing in that particular state.

...and that's about the only real conclusion we can come to, nu?

It's not really that complex.

Crimes were committed, I can post the statutes if you wish.

The investigation handed off to the FBI. Where it has died/stalled/not been reported.

So i'm not sure how you can come to the conclusions you are without key facts. Explaining it away under the most charitable of circumstances isn't swaying me.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: olaru12

So rationale is still out the window.

We can try again next year.

We won't have to wait that long...we will be discussing the aftermath of trumps trial soon enough.

Have you made any preparations for the aftermath?

I think the whole country should prepare. You honestly think Trump is going to be railroaded into a prison term, locked up and that's that??!!!

k.

I'm willing to bet they'll do it to him in hopes that it'll kick off a revolt. Like you said, we don't have long to wait and perhaps it's befitting to encourage each other to enjoy the time we have left before the chaos.

So enjoy your time and I'll do the same!

Drink up!

a reply to: Byrd

It sure seemed like the evidence was ignored, suppressed, and covered-up to me.

I read the audit reports, election worker reports, watched several hearings on a variety of election problems in several states, followed lawyers and organizations who collected evidence, watched the lawfare criminal cases against good people reporting serious election issues, learned how weak "risk limiting audits" and limited recounts are, watched evidence get suppressed, and did a bunch additional research and analysis on my own.

To claim that there is no evidence or that it was proven false by 60 courts, is simply not true, and is based on ignoring, and or denying the evidence based on rejection, laziness, confirmation bias, blind beliefs, and mainstream narratives that play on repeat so mass psychosis can take effect.

I also took the time to get trained as an election worker and election deputy to learn how our elections work. I asks a lot of questions and paid close attention in my classes. I also spent some time reading election equipment manuals to better understand the election software out there.

Unfortunately, due to extenuating circumstances, I decided not to work the last election and I honestly don't feel comfortable with even volunteering to be an observer at this point. I've made up my mind to stay away from my local elections. I would have liked to continue to gain knowledge and experience with regards to our elections, but it just wasn't worth it.

I can tell you though, I sure did learn a lot about a lot of things, and I continue to learn.

I would suggest to you that you work on understanding how forensic audits work, can be used to prove the integrity of our elections, and why following local laws like keeping proper chain of custody records, having electronic ballot images that match up with the paper ballots, having ballots that match to legal voters off of clean voter rolls, having ballot paper that doesn't bleed through and is the proper size, having a proper and observable adjudication process, signature verification with some integrity, and other safeguards are not only vital to having honest and fair elections, but are vital to being able to prove the honesty and integrity of those elections.

"There is a distinct difference between believing that our elections are legal, fair, and secure, and being able to show and prove that our elections are legal, fair, and secure."
IndieA

Why this video hasn't been broadcast on every news station tells you all you need to know about how complicant the msm is in keeping the election steal hidden from the public.
as good as it gets PROOF!

only 1 more day to go

lets see what this 'irrefutable' evidence is in less than 24 hours

originally posted by: UpThenDown
only 1 more day to go

lets see what this 'irrefutable' evidence is in less than 24 hours

He has stated that he wont share the report now at the advice of his lawyers. So big reveal tomorrow unfortunately.

originally posted by: Itherael

originally posted by: UpThenDown
only 1 more day to go

lets see what this 'irrefutable' evidence is in less than 24 hours

He has stated that he wont share the report now at the advice of his lawyers. So big reveal tomorrow unfortunately.

Trump scraps plans to release ‘irrefutable report’

Everyone is just going to have to wait for the evidence to FINALLY be summited in a court of law, where it can FINALLY undergo a thorough and honest review.

a reply to: IndieA

If Trump has such irrefutable proof that the election was rigged and that evidence exonerates him, why has he requested to have the DC case delayed until 2026?

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: IndieA

If Trump has such irrefutable proof that the election was rigged and that evidence exonerates him, why has he requested to have the DC case delayed until 2026?

This is the first I'm hearing of this, probably since I don't pay much attention to the mainstream media.
As I've mentioned before, sources are always appreciated.

To answer your question, Trump and the co-defendants have a variety of paths that they can take and proving election fraud in the 2020 election may not be the best one. The mainstream media certainly can't be trusted to report election fraud evidence honestly, and arguably Trump won't be able to get a fair trial in this country because of them. It's my favorite path, because I think it's important for the integrity of future elections and our country for the WHOLE truth to come out.

You should focus on worrying about all the legal precedents that have been set these last few years and how they will effect future indictments.

a reply to: IndieA

Trump lawyers ask judge to push election subversion trial to April 2026

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: IndieA

If Trump has such irrefutable proof that the election was rigged and that evidence exonerates him, why has he requested to have the DC case delayed until 2026?

Because he is running for political office and the trial will be a major political distraction no matter the outcome... just like the Democrats planned when they put their political persecution campaign strategy in place.

a reply to: dandandat2

If he has such a slam dunk case, why not request to have the trial this year? That way he can get out out of the way before campaign season really starts and it will save him millions in legal fees.

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: dandandat2

If he has such a slam dunk case, why not request to have the trial this year? That way he can get out out of the way before campaign season really starts and it will save him millions in legal fees.

Because he is running for political office and the trial will be a major political distraction no matter the outcome... just like the Democrats planned when they put their political persecution campaign strategy in place.

a reply to: dandandat2

But, it would big a bigly win! All those on the fence independents he needs. Just go to court throw down his "irrefutable proof".
Show it is all "political persecution" he has the victory on lock. Seems weird he's not in any hurry. He also could have announced or filed his "irrefutable proof" when he knew those also involved in his scheme were testifying to a grand jury, or when he got his target letter, or right after the classified docs case, actually any time within the last few years. Maybe right after he got the results from the two independent investigations he quietly had done that showed no fraud. He could have had his big "bam" then and maybe received his money back he paid the two firms to investigate.

Just go to court throw down his "irrefutable proof".

a reply to: frogs453
you mean like this?

This Georgia hearing contains a bunch of evidence:



and another hearing from earlier:



I can't seem to find Jovan Hutton Pulitzer's presentation, but it was good and very revealing.

a reply to: IndieA

Software to validate signatures is far more complex than is needed.

I have found that the more complex a process is, the more failure points there are, and the more loopholes are open to be leveraged by the nefarious.

We really need to keep it simple. Not as simple as purple thumbs, but ID and mostly in-person paper voting. Doesn't have to be same day, but someone needs to hand check an ID.

Why is this so damn difficult? Because they want to be able to cheat.

But nooooooo, they tell you is so important that every. single. body. warm. cold. or vegetable can vote for the democrat, dont you know. Thats whats important. Not election integrity!!!

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

Just go to court throw down his "irrefutable proof".

a reply to: frogs453
you mean like this?

More like this

Once again, similar to Powell with her Detroit lawsuit which had completely wrong information and numbers, he relied on completely wrong info from people who actually used Minnesota counties as Michigan counties, incorrect Antrim info, etc.

a reply to: frogs453

From the article you posted:

I like how the 14-page letter to Colbeck starts off with a character assassination, although I can say that Josh Merritt aka “Spyder” is an interesting character that seems to know a thing about counter-intelligence and how to spot "CI" guys.

14-Page Letter to Colbeck

Case for MI Decertification

Halderman Report