Trump will finally deliver proof of 2020 election Fraud - 2024 now in question?

originally posted by: frogs453

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

Just go to court throw down his "irrefutable proof".

a reply to: frogs453
you mean like this?

More like this

Once again, similar to Powell with her Detroit lawsuit which had completely wrong information and numbers, he relied on completely wrong info from people who actually used Minnesota counties as Michigan counties, incorrect Antrim info, etc.

The idea that if one lawsuit or fact pattern is dismissed or proven inacurate it null and voids other proof, eyewitness testimony and other fact patterns is absurd.
Regardless of any other "wrong information" it does not discount the testimony I presented.
please watch, remarkable proof ignored

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

The link I provided is directly about the claims incorrectly made in your link.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

The link I provided is directly about the claims incorrectly made in your link.

I'm not seeing anything about the 200 affidavits out of Detroit, or anything about the broken chain of custody records, in the letter to Colbeck.

a reply to: IndieA

Are these the affadavits that were presented in the Detroit case? The ones that Sidney and Lyn didn't even vet before presenting? The ones that were so vague and unable to be substantiated, along with the verifiable incorrect stats used, that both lawyers were sanctioned? I remember watching one of the live hearings. They actually had presented an affadavit in the suit that said, "I heard from my boss, that he heard from his boss, that something fishy was going on." as evidence of fraud. Smdh.

Sanctions

As for the chain of custody. The state GOP own investigation found those claims:

The report stated that demands to decertify the vote over claims regarding the "chain of custody" of ballots and related materials are "incredibly misleading, demeaning, and irresponsible."

GOP Report

a reply to: frogs453

U.S. District Judge Linda Parker, of Michigan's Eastern District, imposed sanctions on the attorneys in late August. Her Thursday order determined the amount Powell and the others involved in the so-called Kraken lawsuit must pay.

I honestly believe that this case will be taught in law-schools under the subject of lawfare. It was a publicly broadcasted Zoom meeting, so it's available on Youtube. It's probably the most biased, rushed, and seemingly predetermined case that I have ever witnessed.

a reply to: frogs453

As for the chain of custody. The state GOP own investigation found those claims:

4 of the 5 Maricopa County Board of Supervisors were Republicans, as was the County Recorder.
Actual election integrity is nonpartisan.

Other questionable investigations include, but are not limited to:

Georgia's GBI investigation into allegations of what took place at the State Farm Arena on election night.
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Georgia's GBI investigation into the death of Harrison Deal.

Arizona's AG Mark Brnovich's investigation into Arizona's Maricopa county 2020 election audit findings.

a reply to: frogs453

Not feeling too warm and fuzzy with what's in the GOP's Report concerning the broken chain of custody records.

While concerns about these systems may be justified, it is incredibly misleading and irresponsible to imply this holds any danger to the official vote counts, the tabulators, or the ballots themselves. Similarly, unfair allegations have been leveled against the secretary of state and county and local clerks regarding the instruction to, and deletion of, e-poll book data. The letter instructing this and the action itself is a standard practice, ordered by the federal government and carried out shortly after every election.

Hate to break it to them but, broken chain of custody records holds danger to the official vote counts.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

The link I provided is directly about the claims incorrectly made in your link.

There have been many exposes done proving that these machines are connected to the internet, have algorithims that miscount votes and other issues. The msm had also covered this until they needed to protect the deep state and get Trump out. I am only trying to be fair with you and respectful but the courts the print and television media are by in large cohorts to the deep state. The electronic voting machines are an issue, they've been proven to be compromised.. that is just a fact and no revisionist history or phony fact checking will change that fact.

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

The link I provided is directly about the claims incorrectly made in your link.

The electronic voting machines are an issue, they've been proven to be compromised.. that is just a fact and no revisionist history or phony fact checking will change that fact.

I would be interested in seeing the facts. People talkin on a Rumble video isn't proof. Neither is youtube or another social media site with a predetermined ideology.

a reply to: olaru12

Having been an employee of Uncle Sugars Navy IT dept, I can tell you that there is no such thing as proprietary when it comes to what goes on the Navy network. There are code walkthru's and every update must be certified all over again.

It's a big f'n deal that takes alot of time. It's necessary so that there are no backdoors that can be leveraged to compromise the entire Navy/Marine Corp internet.

So, when I heard that we couldn't see the software because its proprietary, my hair literally stood on end.

One would think our elections are as important to national security as the Navy?

Nah.... I must be trippin'

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

The link I provided is directly about the claims incorrectly made in your link.

The electronic voting machines are an issue, they've been proven to be compromised.. that is just a fact and no revisionist history or phony fact checking will change that fact.

I would be interested in seeing the facts. People talkin on a Rumble video isn't proof. Neither is youtube or another social media site with a predetermined ideology.

Dominion Voting Systems, a voting machine manufacturer founded in Canada, made equipment that is used in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.

1. Problems in Michigan, Georgia

Antrim County, a predominantly Republican county in Northern Michigan that went to Trump with 62% of the vote in 2016, flipped to Biden on Election Day, when the count initially gave the former vice president 6,000 votes that actually belonged to Trump.

After red flags went up, county election officials did a hand recount of ballots and determined that Trump actually won with 56%, the Detroit Free Press reported. 

here is link with more

There is so much out there that these machines are corrupted. It was even demonstrated thst a zip drive could feed votes to the electronic machines. It is such a scam.
If you search you will find endless examples dating back 20 years. Whoever counts the votes and runs the machines will always win and if you ever question it you will be tared and feathered, though shall not question voting machines.

a reply to: olaru12

There's a lot of facts about the vulnerabilities of our elections and our election equipment and software. I'm getting overwhelmed by the amount of related information out there. An easy place to start educating yourself is with documentaries. Here's a couple:

Hacking Democracy is available on Amazon and Vimeo on-demand.

And here's 5 more listed by ChatGPT - You'll have to find them on your own if you want to watch them.

"Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America's Elections" (2020): This documentary focuses on the vulnerabilities of the U.S. election system to cyberattacks. It discusses how election systems are connected to the internet and explores the potential for hacking and manipulation.

"Unverified: The Untold Story Behind the UNC Voting Machine Hacking Scandal" (2018): This documentary delves into a hacking incident involving electronic voting machines used in North Carolina. It examines the vulnerabilities of the machines and the potential for interference in the election process.

"The Perfect Weapon" (2020): While not solely focused on election machines, this documentary explores cyber warfare and how digital technologies are used as tools of influence and disruption. It discusses various aspects of cyber threats, including those related to elections.

"I Voted?" (2020): This documentary follows journalist Jason Grant Smith as he investigates the security of America's electronic voting systems. It highlights concerns about the accuracy and reliability of these systems.

"Stealing America: Vote by Vote" (2008): While not entirely centered on hacking, this documentary investigates irregularities and alleged manipulation in the U.S. election system. It explores a range of issues, including voter suppression, faulty voting machines, and more.

Oh, and Selection Code tells the story of Tina Peters.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Whoever counts the votes and runs the machines will always win and if you ever question it you will be tared and feathered, though shall not question voting machines.

Not when all the checks and balances are in place, election problems are investigated and corrected quickly, and the occasional full forensic audits are done to fully verify that the laws and regulations are followed, and checks and balances are in place.

When elections are done correctly and lawfully, they can be fully audited and verified.

DOD election standards should be the bare minimum. I'm perfectly okay with purple fingers too.

Not when all the checks and balances are in place, election problems are investigated and corrected quickly, and the occasional full forensic audits are done to fully verify that the laws and regulations are followed, and checks and balances are in place.

a reply to: IndieA

Well, that didn't happen. Between the thousands of signed affadavidts and mathematical anomolies to chain of custody and signature verification issues VP Pence should have waited on certifying the elections until these issues were resolved. Pence and the rest of our congress people had/have a constitutional duty to do that.
They stopped counting the night of the election and did not give a final tally until a week later in all 5 swing states. The excuses for this unprecented delay were proven lies, the water pipe and other excuses like it was a long day and the counters needed rest.They also accepted ballots that were mailed in late. It was a shiit show, we all witnessed it yet so many are denying it. Biden had no support and did not get 81+ million votes.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

I'm speaking in general, and going forward.

I agree that the 2020 Presidential election was a disaster.

Election integrity is better in some places than others, since States are responsible for their own elections, and their counties and districts are responsible for carrying them out in accordance with State laws.

CISA and the DHS seem to be more of a hinderence to actual election integrity, than anything. They seem to champion the idea that perception is reality , and if you tell people that our elections are secure enough times, they will believe it. And if they don't, so what?

I agree that the 2020 Presidential election was a disaster

a reply to: IndieA
According to Hillary and the progressive communists so was 2016, Bush v Gore and Obama being reelected was only due to Mitt Romney throwing the election.
Manufactured consent, propaganda news and politicians who think they are our leaders rather than our representatives who work for their constituents.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

It's my understanding that cheating takes place in most major elections, and that the 2020 election had a record amount of it.

Election cheating is a science that has been developing and continues to develop, which is why it's so important that election integrity efforts and implications develop as well.

a reply to: IndieA

Due to the proliferation Social Media, the DOJ/FBI/HHS/DHS was able to implement large scale fraud that benefitted Joe Biden, simply by "guiding" Social Media Companies to hide, or play up, specific information.

Relatively simple and very effective.

a reply to: carewemust
Your going to let us know when trump releases this, right!

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: IndieA

Due to the proliferation Social Media, the DOJ/FBI/HHS/DHS was able to implement large scale fraud that benefitted Joe Biden, simply by "guiding" Social Media Companies to hide, or play up, specific information.

Relatively simple and very effective.

That was part of it, but we know that a lot more happened then voters being swayed by the lies of the media. And I would argue that more money and energy was spent on suppressing and covering up the evidence, and steering public opinion after the election, than before it.

81 million votes were counted in favor of Biden, but all the evidence I've seen, common sense, and critical thinking, tells me that there wasn't anywhere near 81 million people who legally voted for him.