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Indictment number 3 for Trump announced

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posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Ditto, mate .

I'm sure his creditors that he bumped will agree with you.



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

Ditto, mate .

I'm sure his creditors that he bumped will agree with you.


You forgot your source...



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

My apologies.

I thought it was a matter of public knowledge.

So here:


www.thoughtco.com...



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Trumps business failure rate is around 10 percent.

Not bad considering the average business failure rate is above 80 percent.


Where did you get the numbers on Trump's business failures? The numbers I'm seeing indicate a failure rate of around 40%



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: matafuchs

It happens. The difference is he had a business and it folded. It sucks but again it can happen. He did do something every other president has done though and that is invest in garbage or companies that disappear.

Solyndra anyone? Obamas and then Bidens...

Liink

You know there are two different basic ways to file in the US right?


I see your Solyndra and raise you Proterra.


The firm most famously assembles electric buses out of its South Carolina facility, where Biden received a virtual tour in 2021. In February, the president also announced CEO Joyce's appointment to the White House's Export Council, which advises on matters of overseas trade.

Joyce's appointment was celebrated by the Biden administration, who hailed the CEO for "growing Proterra’s EV battery manufacturing footprint in the United States and accelerating the transition of transit and other commercial vehicles to zero emission solutions."



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

Trump has over 500 businesses.

Even taking your source as fact, although it's an opinion, they wouldn't even equal 10% if we combined them.



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

My apologies.

I thought it was a matter of public knowledge.

So here:


www.thoughtco.com...




....6 bankrupcies then?

Cmon maaaaan.

Gonna have to try harder.



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: SourGrapes

Don't really care how I might strike you.

That's irrelevant.

Reformation?

As in restructuring?

As in bumping creditors.


can you list what parts he did that were illegal and why nobody prosecuted him?


A quick search says that there were almost 4,100 lawsuits brought against him for things like nonpayment (which is theft, which isn't legal), contract disputes from Trump University (you may remember that one), employment issues (failing to pay employees overtime... which is against the law), etc, etc.



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RazorV66

I never claimed any such thing .


Maybe you didn’t, but most Liberals here in this country have cried about it for years.
And cried and cried and cried and cried.



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: SourGrapes

Don't really care how I might strike you.

That's irrelevant.

Reformation?

As in restructuring?

As in bumping creditors.


can you list what parts he did that were illegal and why nobody prosecuted him?


A quick search says that there were almost 4,100 lawsuits brought against him for things like nonpayment (which is theft, which isn't legal), contract disputes from Trump University (you may remember that one), employment issues (failing to pay employees overtime... which is against the law), etc, etc.


Where are those charges please?



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

That's fine then. Only 6?

Oh:

"The New York Times, which conducted an analysis of regulatory reviews, court records, and security filings, found otherwise, however. It reported in 2016 that Trump "put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses, and other payments.

"The burden of his failures," according to the newspaper, "fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen."

Poor sods, eh?



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

That's fine then. Only 6?

Oh:

"The New York Times, which conducted an analysis of regulatory reviews, court records, and security filings, found otherwise, however. It reported in 2016 that Trump "put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses, and other payments.

"The burden of his failures," according to the newspaper, "fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen."

Poor sods, eh?



So you wish to switch to a morality argument?

Am I understanding this correctly?



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: SourGrapes

That is, up until now! Now, everything he touches is going to be investigated for anything, any thing, that'll hold him up in courts. It'll all magically disappear on November 6th, 2024. ( mark my words, Mr. Lawyer
)


I'll take that bet.

The only time he was immune to lawsuits was while he was President. He's been investigated and sued (and lost) ever since the early 1980's (he and his father lost a discrimination in housing lawsuit.)

Investigations should be old hat to him.

The only way they would stop investigations and lawsuits (temporary hold, actually) is if he somehow got elected to the presidency again. Since he lost the popular vote both times he ran, I don't see him suddenly becoming the darling of the majority of voters (who wanted him far away from the presidency.)



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: Byrd



The only time he was immune to lawsuits was while he was President. 


Pardon me and my silly memory but wasnt he impeached....twice?


What was the result of those?



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

That's fine then. Only 6?

Oh:

"The New York Times, which conducted an analysis of regulatory reviews, court records, and security filings, found otherwise, however. It reported in 2016 that Trump "put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses, and other payments.

"The burden of his failures," according to the newspaper, "fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen."

Poor sods, eh?



So you wish to switch to a morality argument?

Am I understanding this correctly?


No. You think that this has nothing to do with morality .?

No switching. Just is.




posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

That's fine then. Only 6?

Oh:

"The New York Times, which conducted an analysis of regulatory reviews, court records, and security filings, found otherwise, however. It reported in 2016 that Trump "put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses, and other payments.

"The burden of his failures," according to the newspaper, "fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen."

Poor sods, eh?



So you wish to switch to a morality argument?

Am I understanding this correctly?


No. You think that this has nothing to do with morality .?

No switching. Just is.



Except we just started trying to lay down factual information...then for some inexplicable reason, you switched to morality.

An appeal to emotion.

Now why would you do that?



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RazorV66

I never claimed any such thing .


Maybe you didn’t, but most Liberals here in this country have cried about it for years.
And cried and cried and cried and cried.


Great. I'm not a liberal or in your country nor am I crying about anything?



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:46 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Well, excuse me for bringing morality into the conversation?

Well, hush my mouth?



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

Well, excuse me for bringing morality into the conversation?

Well, hush my mouth?


I don't care that you do, I only ask why as we were discussing a factual base.



posted on Aug, 8 2023 @ 04:57 PM
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Does this seem like a person who is losing.....

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How many buildings does Trump own? While Trump himself currently owns six private residences, the Trump Organization owns a staggering 500 businesses and properties around the world, many of which are his prized golf clubs.

How much is Donald Trump Worth As of 2022, it is estimated that Donald Trump is worth approximately $3.2 billion, making him one of the richest men to have ever been President of the United States.


Yea, a real loser at business.



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