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LIVE: Congress holds UFO hearing.

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posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 10:31 AM
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I can't wait...The Truth is out There...but not in here hearing today in about two hours.
www.youtube.com...


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posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 12:25 PM
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Thankyou.





posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 12:42 PM
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Thank you and a little more info.



The Hill will convene lawmakers and experts to provide analysis and answer questions about possible national security risks.




Speakers:

Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN), Member, House Oversight & Accountability Subcommittee on Cybersecurity, Information Technology, & Government Innovation

Greg Eghigian, Former Director, Science, Technology, & Society Program, Pennsylvania State University; Professor of History & Bioethics, Pennsylvania State University

... hmm...

Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL), Member, House Oversight & Accountability Committee

Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL), Member, House Oversight & Accountability Committee

Moderator:

Mychael Schnell, Congressional Reporter, The Hill

Brian Entin, Senior National Correspondent, NewsNation


thehill.com...



posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: introufo

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posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 02:30 PM
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So from that more playing the waiting game until a committee can be formed to snoop around and/or have subpoena power, but I think I'll start following David Spergel NASA UAP Independent Study Team.




posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 09:37 PM
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Just watchedā€¦..and I didnā€™t get much out of thatā€¦.that hasnā€™t already been said.

The only thing I gleaned wasā€¦.. less to non-existent public hearings may be likely ā€¦..and the need for a select committeeā€¦..otherwise SQUAT.

It was not the format I was expectingā€¦..I was expecting an in-person round table or panel formatā€¦or at the minimum a zoom gathering.

Beyond thatā€¦.I lost time Iā€™ll never get back.

A side observationā€¦..Mrs Luna needā€™s to lay off the botulinum toxin injections to her lips šŸ˜³ ā€¦otherwise known as a Lip Flipā€¦.imo.

šŸ‘½

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posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 09:54 PM
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DoD Barring Grusch from Speaking to Lawmakers in a SCIF About Classified UAP Knowledge

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Amazing. A lot of the enthusiast believers on Reddit are experiencing emotional trauma over this. Many of them sound very extreme.
The type who invaded Area 51 last year.
A lot of the Bennowitz syndrome.

Probably Richard Doty is an admin over there giggling in his mic



posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 10:01 PM
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Yeah, it was weak as a follow-up; I hardly watched it.

A lot of tough talk.

Iā€™d be surprised if something came from this but a lot of noise and, as usual, behind classified doors, none with tread.


Not a bad-looking woman, BTW. Botox or not.



posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 10:06 PM
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No Clearances = No Grusch
No Select Committee = No Grusch
No SCIF = No Grusch

Added together = No Grusch

No Grusch = All Stop

šŸ‘½

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posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 10:15 PM
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If this "Disclosure" were a commercial...

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posted on Aug, 17 2023 @ 11:31 PM
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That's funny!
It's sort of like that, but that looks like a real dollar in that video. Some people seem to take what Grusch says at face value and might think it's a real dollar they're grabbing for.

But from my perspective, the Grusch dollar looks more like a dollar from the game of monopoly, so I'm not even trying to grab it, because it doesn't seem to be worth anything except in some kind of game. And someone does seem to be playing some kind of game. Maybe not even Grusch, he could be an unsuspecting victim of the game, like I'm guessing Tom DeLonge was (is?).



posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 05:34 AM
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a reply to: introufo

Nothing surprises me here at all.




posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 08:02 AM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: introufo

No Clearances = No Grusch
No Select Committee = No Grusch
No SCIF = No Grusch

Added together = No Grusch

No Grusch = All Stop

šŸ‘½


Why don't they go after the first hand witnesses? Why does everything weigh on Grusch's shoulder?

Surely there were other people who worked alongside Grusch with the names and their claims who have the clearance?

Sounds like this was all a planned climbdown and getout to ensure the status quo is preserved.

Same as it ever was.
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posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 08:12 AM
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S-T-I-G-M-A ..RULES the same as it ever wasā€¦..it truly is about self-preservationā€¦.imo.

šŸ‘½



posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: mirageman

S-T-I-G-M-A ..RULES the same as it ever wasā€¦..it truly is about self-preservationā€¦.imo.

šŸ‘½
If I had an alien body to show, I wouldn't have to worry about stigma, the evidence would speak for itself. So I don't know about stigma ruling anything. I think what really rules is either actual evidence, or lack of actual evidence.

If I talked about alien bodies with no alien bodies to show, then unsurprisingly I'd be more than worried about stigma, I wouldn't talk about them until I could show them. But again it's the lack of evidence that's the problem, not really stigma. Ask why the stigma exists in the first place? So many claims with lack of solid evidence.



posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 10:44 AM
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A current hiccupā€¦ā€¦.


ā€œThe excuse that the Department of Defense is using for us not being able to get a SCIF is that Grusch doesnā€™t have an active [security] clearance.

So unless he has active clearance, theyā€™re saying that he canā€™t divulge that information to us, which, one, I believe is false,ā€ Luna said at The Hill event.

ā€œThe Department of Defense is literally trying to stonewall us.ā€


If itā€™s true that Grusch does not have an ā€œActiveā€ Clearanceā€¦..how is it he didnā€™t know that or understand that before ā€¦.and instead making and inferring assurances that he will talk as long as it was in a SCIF.

His answers should have beenā€¦..I can not answer that question as it is classified and I no long have an Active clearanceā€¦since leaving the military.

Insteadā€¦..he continued to lead the congressional folks on ā€¦falselyā€¦..imo.

For an intel person who supposedly knows his $hitā€¦ā€¦he didnā€™t know his security clearance would go inactive upon leaving active service???

I believe he left active service in 2021ā€¦..

As the Brits would say BULLOCKS!

Hmmmm

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posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 10:57 AM
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As the Brits would say BULLOCKS!

Hmmmm


Stinky stuff Ophi. I sniff a rat the size of a cat ... Where are the hidden space ships and dead bodies?




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posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: introufo

If this "Disclosure" were a commercial...



Absolutely--a perfect visual metaphor for this fraud...

Thatā€™s Puthoff with the fishing rod in 2027, the year the latest CIA disinformation says they're coming.



posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 11:24 AM
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I smelt a rat when Grusch suddenly appeared out of the blue 2 weeks before the hearing.

After his first interview with Coulthart and reading Grusch's body language I thought, He's just another Bull#ter like Lazar, Pope and Grier, etc.

Coulthart's career is on a shaky peg here.

After the hearing, I was prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt in the hope they had been keeping this guy wrapped in cotton wool for a considerable amount of time and that he was not just some pop-up emergency expert witness who offered his services at the last minute.

It's beginning to look like Grusch was a Last minute addition, Weeks more than Years in the planning... and that seriously damages everyone that sat behind the guy hanging onto his every word.

It's CMDR Fravor I feel sorry for because I don't trust Graves either.

ps, Those politicians at the hearing are about to look damn stupid also.

What a #show.




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posted on Aug, 18 2023 @ 11:25 AM
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BTW. Has anyone of these new enthusiasts or the old ones thought the obvious: IF they do have dead aliens and spaceships ( I again want to know, BTW, how they got intact saucers. Did the aliens give them a Xmas present?), what prevents them from destroying them or hiding them so you canā€™t see em?

And even if we saw some dead carcass said to be an alien body, whatā€™s going to make us know that this isnā€™t a Hollywood special...a monster movie loan.

The enthusiasts should be satisfied with the gov admitting( what we always knew and they always actually admitted) their incapacity to know and their ignorance.

That's why TSTA's bragging about this looks like it's justified, but a closer look shows it's not the case.

They were just a conduit for the con.



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