Michigan charges 16 fake electors for Donald Trump with election law and forgery felonies

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: Gothmog
Liberals and desperation . They have to dig very deep trying to find something , anything to try and justify their version of "reality" .

Nope. No digging required. The fake electors got together, forged and signed a fake Certificate of Ascertainment and then sent it to the U.S. Archivist and the Senate. They created their own incriminating paper trail and called attention to it.

Anything to try and justify their version of "reality".

WHAT !

I've heard of mental Gymnastics but wow , That is some Olympic Gold Medal Level Gymnastics right there mate. Christ anything to deny the Reality .

"Everyone lies mate but only a Fool lies to there-self ."

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: 1947boomer

Please.....

Courtesy of your political friends.

You aren't a serious person.

you always do your due diligence mate .

Nice .

I know reading indictments or evidence of crimes does not seem to be popular on ATS, but as always here is the pdf

Weird that since everyone here states it's legal, you can read in the document how they were all supposed to remain silent about it and no one was to know about what they did at that time. Guess it was just supposed to be a big surprise on the 6th.

Totally normal for above board activities I'm sure.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

These were not faithless electors, they were false electors.

These defendants are alleged to have met covertly in the basement of the Michigan Republican Party headquarters on December 14th, and signed their names to multiple certificates stating they were the “duly elected and qualified electors for President and Vice President of the United States of America for the State of Michigan.” These false documents were then transmitted to the United States Senate and National Archives in a coordinated effort to award the state’s electoral votes to the candidate of their choosing, in place of the candidates actually elected by the people of Michigan.

Each defendant has been charged with:

One count of Conspiracy to Commit Forgery, a 14-year felony,
Two counts of Forgery, a 14-year felony,
One count of Conspiracy to Commit Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
One count of Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
One count of Conspiracy to Commit Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony, and,
Two counts of Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony.

www.michigan.gov...

a reply to: frogs453

Punishments from Nutjobs who ended up in law enforcement aren't long lasting and usually boomerang, sooner or later.

Creeps Indicting alternate electors is as crazy as the creeps who lean on necks until the suspect is dead.

Different jobs, but the same crazy mindset.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Fair enough I'm intrigued .

These defendants are alleged

Bad start but okay carry on .

” These false documents were then transmitted to the United States Senate and National Archives in a coordinated effort to award the state’s electoral votes to the candidate of their choosing, in place of the candidates actually elected by the people of Michigan.

According to whom ?
Who says they are false ? It would be convenient if this were true I admit but .....

Are you noticing the ages of these people ? 55 to 80+ years old ? None of that seems a little strange to you ? Wouldn't young to middle aged activist be more likely ?

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

According to whom ?

Who says they are false ?

LOL
The State of Michigan.
The state that the false electors claimed to represent (they didn't) allege they were false electors.

Are you noticing the ages of these people ? 55 to 80+ years old ? None of that seems a little strange to you ?

No, not really.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

The State of Michigan. The state that the false electors claimed to represent (they didn't) allege they were false electors.

I find your faith in the Government touching

I hate to edit after the fact in case you're replying but allow me to add to .

It's not that Michigan is a Democrat ran State , It's that you trust an internal state government investigation into there own self fraud and them trying crucify what is apparently a group of retirees . Drop the Party loyalty for a second and just look at it objectively .

a reply to: Sookiechacha

These were not faithless electors, they were false electors.

*Alternate Electors.

It wasn't the first time, wont be the last.

Go on, do a search on the term historically.

Tired of cleaning up your ignorant messes.

a reply to: Gothmog

They're going scorched earth.

No one is safe in communist run cities and States.

This will just escalate the Balkanization of America.

It's just a matter of time now.

a reply to: JinMI

*Alternate Electors.

168.46 Presidential electors; determination by board of state canvassers; certificate of election.
Sec. 46.

As soon as practicable after the state board of canvassers has, by the official canvass, ascertained the result of an election as to electors of president and vice-president of the United States, the governor shall certify, under the seal of the state, to the United States secretary of state, the names and addresses of the electors of this state chosen as electors of president and vice-president of the United States. The governor shall also transmit to each elector chosen as an elector for president and vice-president of the United States a certificate, in triplicate, under the seal of the state, of his or her election.

www.legislature.mi.gov...(S(zqfieoldoplgjn0hafro1tdm))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-168-46


www.michigan.gov... DAC4826FBD6FE538FF5AB7F64491A97B

Tired of cleaning up your ignorant messes.

It's your "alternate electors'" mess now!
These guys are toast.

originally posted by: Mahogany

Link

Michigan AG charged 16 people who were part of a plan to substitute legitimate votes for fake ones in a plot to re-elect Donald Trump. The false certificates were not accepted, but the conspiracy to commit a crime, and sometimes the coverup of a crime, can be worse than the attempted crime itself. They all got charged with the same set of eight charges, including forgery and conspiracy to commit election forgery, which can carry up to 14 years in prison.

Some of the people charged are high up in the leadership of the GOP in the state, and others just got swept in.

The group includes the head of the Republican National Committee’s chapter in Michigan, Kathy Berden, as well as the former co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, Meshawn Maddock, and Shelby Township Clerk Stan Grot.

...

GOP state Sen. Ed McBroom, who chaired a GOP-led Senate panel to investigate Michigan’s 2020 presidential election that found no wrongdoing, said he previously spoke with one of the fake electors. It was clear, McBroom said, that the effort was organized by “people who put themselves in a position of authority and posing themselves as the ones who knew what they were doing.”

“They were wrong,” McBroom told The Associated Press. “And other people followed them when they shouldn’t have.”

We should probably expect this to be only the first of the states to indict the participants of this election fraud, a soft coup attempt. Other states have active investigations into similar and concurrent crimes.

False Electoral College certificates were also submitted declaring Trump the winner of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Investigations are underway in some other states that submitted fake electors, but not all.

A Georgia prosecutor investigating possible illegal meddling in the 2020 election has agreed to immunity deals with at least eight fake electors. And Arizona’s Democratic attorney general is in the very early stages of a probe. Nevada’s attorney general, also a Democrat, has said he won’t bring charges, while Wisconsin has no active investigation and the attorney general has deferred to the U.S. Justice Department.

Would convictions put the pressure on the remaining states to start up their own investigations?

Discovery should be outstanding.
Remember you wanted this.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Commie juries will convict regardless of evidence.

The J6 cases are example enough.

They sentenced a guy to 18 years for posting a meme.

Act accordingly...

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: shooterbrody

Commie juries will convict regardless of evidence.

The J6 cases are example enough.

They sentenced a guy to 18 years for posting a meme.

Act accordingly...

Isn’t that the state the fbi had to drop the case because the fbi was the case?
reason.com...
Yeah
Not surprising from that crap hole state.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Indeed, it seems like a recurring theme in Michigan.

The FEDs have become a one-trick pony.

16 fake electors... probably all FEDs. 🤣

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