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Michigan charges 16 fake electors for Donald Trump with election law and forgery felonies

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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:06 PM
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Michigan AG charged 16 people who were part of a plan to substitute legitimate votes for fake ones in a plot to re-elect Donald Trump. The false certificates were not accepted, but the conspiracy to commit a crime, and sometimes the coverup of a crime, can be worse than the attempted crime itself. They all got charged with the same set of eight charges, including forgery and conspiracy to commit election forgery, which can carry up to 14 years in prison.

Some of the people charged are high up in the leadership of the GOP in the state, and others just got swept in.


The group includes the head of the Republican National Committee’s chapter in Michigan, Kathy Berden, as well as the former co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, Meshawn Maddock, and Shelby Township Clerk Stan Grot.

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GOP state Sen. Ed McBroom, who chaired a GOP-led Senate panel to investigate Michigan’s 2020 presidential election that found no wrongdoing, said he previously spoke with one of the fake electors. It was clear, McBroom said, that the effort was organized by “people who put themselves in a position of authority and posing themselves as the ones who knew what they were doing.”

“They were wrong,” McBroom told The Associated Press. “And other people followed them when they shouldn’t have.”

We should probably expect this to be only the first of the states to indict the participants of this election fraud, a soft coup attempt. Other states have active investigations into similar and concurrent crimes.


False Electoral College certificates were also submitted declaring Trump the winner of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Investigations are underway in some other states that submitted fake electors, but not all.

A Georgia prosecutor investigating possible illegal meddling in the 2020 election has agreed to immunity deals with at least eight fake electors. And Arizona’s Democratic attorney general is in the very early stages of a probe. Nevada’s attorney general, also a Democrat, has said he won’t bring charges, while Wisconsin has no active investigation and the attorney general has deferred to the U.S. Justice Department.

Would convictions put the pressure on the remaining states to start up their own investigations?


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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

I wish they had succeeded.

Knowing now what we know about Biden, I wish they had gotten away with it.

Yeah, I said it.



posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogany

I wish they had succeeded.


Well, that's on you, I can't argue with you on that.

But that is patently un-American, and as someone who has served this country I find it abhorrent. I would much rather the people choose the leaders and the criminals get what they deserve.



posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:16 PM
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Well, Meshawn's tweets aged very poorly.


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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogany

I wish they had succeeded.


Well, that's on you, I can't argue with you on that.

But that is patently un-American, and as someone who has served this country I find it abhorrent. I would much rather the people choose the leaders and the criminals get what they deserve.


Kitten, I served also, so you can't play that #ing card on me.

Biden has sucked.


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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Mahogany

I wish they had succeeded.


Well, that's on you, I can't argue with you on that.

But that is patently un-American, and as someone who has served this country I find it abhorrent. I would much rather the people choose the leaders and the criminals get what they deserve.


Kitten, I served also, so you can't play that #ing card on me.

Biden has sucked.



And I also served .

Sucked ? No Biden is an Unmitigated Disaster.

Dangerous is what he is .


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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Everyone already knows that only fake Biden votes were allowed in Michigan. This proves it. Thanks for bringing this point up.



posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany


I would much rather the people choose the leaders and the criminals get what they deserve.


Would be nice.....


However against the backdrop of this thread, neither seem to be provable.


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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:33 PM
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Isn't this the same state that has decided that not addressing freaks by their preferred pronoun is a crime? Why yes, yes it is. Isn't it also the state where the Feds cooked up a plot to kidnap their bat# crazy governor? Why yes, yes it is. I will find it odd if this sticks, I doubt it will. But there is this thought that the Dems of Michigan are amongst the most crazy - seems they are capable of anything.

How weird it must be to be on a war footing like this on a constant basis. What is the end goal? They probably believe they are stopping the antichrist all the while pursuing antichrist-like goals. Its amazing to watch and also frightening. The DNC is completley unhinged. I suppose that once you refuse to see women as women then its just as easy to see your emotional state as law.
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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:33 PM
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Liberals and desperation . They have to dig very deep trying to find something , anything to try and justify their version of "reality" .
edit on 7/18/23 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)


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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:45 PM
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When will they be charging Hillary Clinton's group of conspirators?


Advocates of the long-shot bid to turn the Electoral College against Donald Trump have been in contact with close allies of Hillary Clinton, according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions, but the Clinton camp — and Clinton herself — have declined to weigh in on the merits of the plan.

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Thier actions were so abhorrent and un-American that I don't know how we survived much past the 2016 elections; thank god we didn't wind up loosing our democracy back than.

Democrats... turning political wrangling into crimes so that they do not have to face opposition during elections.
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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: greendust
How weird it must be to be on a war footing like this on a constant basis. What is the end goal? They probably believe they are stopping the antichrist all the while pursuing antichrist-like goals. Its amazing to watch and also frightening. The DNC is completley unhinged. I suppose that once you refuse to see women as women then its just as easy to see your emotional state as law.


Some times "The Ends justify the Means"


Its just sad that in the "Ends" the Democrats area pursuing aren't things liks "World Peace" or "Feeding the pore".

No ... the "Ends" that the Democrats have chosen to pursue for most of the last decade are to keep a loud mouth politician they clame they can beat in their sleep from running for office.
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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:53 PM
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this could be a prearranged setup part of the election vote count fixes

timing good and convenient


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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

So how many of the 54 Democrat mules that were caught in Michigan are going to be charged with fraud?

Or does this only go one way?

That is a rhetorical question so don't bother answering...




posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
Liberals and desperation . They have to dig very deep trying to find something , anything to try and justify their version of "reality" .


Nope. No digging required. The fake electors got together, forged and signed a fake Certificate of Ascertainment and then sent it to the U.S. Archivist and the Senate. They created their own incriminating paper trail and called attention to it.

Anything to try and justify their version of "reality".


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posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 08:25 PM
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a reply to: 1947boomer

Please.....

Courtesy of your political friends.

You aren't a serious person.



posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Only ignorant, mentally slow people in the media, are referring to these alternate electors as fake electors.

www.nbcnews.com...

The above link describes alternate electors.

2020 was not the first time they had been ready to go, if enough fraud was found.




posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Whatever Democrats collectively are trying to achieve here, they had better not fail!

Failure will result in far greater pain than what they have inflicted on others.



posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: 1947boomer

Please.....

Courtesy of your political friends.

You aren't a serious person.


Good find! Looks like the nutjob Attorney General of Michigan will be out of a job on election Day... If not sooner.



posted on Jul, 18 2023 @ 08:42 PM
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Blah blah blah...

Where are we at with the criminal enterprise operating out of the WH?

All these distractions I guess are better than declaring war to cover it up, but that's still on the table, I'm sure.

I wonder what people are REALLY going to do if they end up railroading Trump into a cell because IF THAT HAPPENS by an obviously weaponized DOJ/FBI, the country is effectively over with. ITS DONE.

I would expect people to become every "leader's" worst nightmare because without rule of law, WE ARE DONE, and rightfully so IMO. Time to start over and WAAAAAYYY overdue.




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