Centers For Disease Control Issues Guidance On Men Properly Breastfeeding Babies.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: MrEnergy
a reply to: carewemust

Can you please quote where it says biological men in the CDC page you referenced. I skimmed it multiple times and could not find it. However, you quoted Foxnews, which to my understanding, has intentionally misinformed you. The CDC page says transgender parents, and as far as I know, a biological woman is completely capable of breastfeeding, even after damage has been done to the breasts, which they state in the CDC page you linked.

Not to speak for the OP, only speaking for myself, not mentioning male lactation efforts and results IS the problem. Because it is happening -- not often apparently, but if it's happening at all, then it needs to be addressed.

Given the covert and insidious tactics used to implement the trans agenda, and given that we know male "chestfeeding" is happening, it is not reassuring that males were neither included nor excluded by the CDC. It is, rather, disturbing and suspicious.

Are you implying the CDC is using covert and insidious science to implement the trans agenda?

I was just reading an article where biological men are capable of lactating, it's only a google search away.

I once searched for this inane belief. Here is what I found then. It happens in a few males and it is absolutely not a mother's good, healthy milk. I don't know what it is but it's extremely rare, it's an abnormality and it isn't mother milk.
I won't share a link either, but would if you share yours. Which you won't because it will say the same thing I just said.

You would probably believe that what comes out of a bull's penis is as good as what comes out of a milk cow's udder. Just to further the insane agenda of feelz vs reality.

Skip the foxnews and other sources from the OP, these sources explain, specifically, guidance for transmen, with surgically removed breasts, are able to breastfeed.

Don't jump on the trans bashing wagon, it's an ugly look and feelz.

Chestfeeding: A term used by many masculine-identified trans people to describe the act of feeding their baby from their chest, regardless of whether they have had chest/top surgery (to alter or remove mammary tissue)

www.cdc.gov...

www.liebertpub.com...

The title of this thread is clickbait, should be ...transmen not men.

You do know transmen are women and transwomen are men?

Naturally a transwoman cannot breastfeed as this person is a biological male. And being male never changes regardless of the mental gymnastics tried on this thread and other.

Where in the CDC article does it refer to a transwoman breastfeeding? Dig it up and post it here, please.

So do you agree biological men cannot naturally breastfeed?

a reply to: quintessentone

I'd be the first to agree with you if it were true...

I'm not sure which part you are referring to as "if it were true..."

...but when I read it I immediately was led to believe they were discussing breast removal, hence transmen.

What specifically "led" you? Something said or something unsaid? Or something you already knew? For example, that breast reduction surgery may inhibit breastfeeding?

Then I read this thread's title and boom, clickbait.

I don't think the title is clickbait so much as... I'm not sure. It was and is the CDC's duty and responsibility to provide comprehensive information to the public. The CDC knows damn well that male "chestfeeding" is happening. The CDC knows damn well that "transgender" applies to both male and female transitioners. The CDC failed to make any distinctions whatsoever; therefore, the CDC information is in fact and in deed inclusive of male transgenders. They're just being chicken#s and refusing to own it.

And what happens as a result? We sit here arguing about what the CDC really meant, and males continue to try to "chestfeed", with no clear guidelines or standards to protect the health and well-being of the infant.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: quintessentone

I'd be the first to agree with you if it were true...

I'm not sure which part you are referring to as "if it were true..."

...but when I read it I immediately was led to believe they were discussing breast removal, hence transmen.

What specifically "led" you? Something said or something unsaid? Or something you already knew? For example, that breast reduction surgery may inhibit breastfeeding?

Then I read this thread's title and boom, clickbait.

I don't think the title is clickbait so much as... I'm not sure. It was and is the CDC's duty and responsibility to provide comprehensive information to the public. The CDC knows damn well that male "chestfeeding" is happening. The CDC knows damn well that "transgender" applies to both male and female transitioners. The CDC failed to make any distinctions whatsoever; therefore, the CDC information is in fact and in deed inclusive of male transgenders. They're just being chicken#s and refusing to own it.

And what happens as a result? We sit here arguing about what the CDC really meant, and males continue to try to "chestfeed", with no clear guidelines or standards to protect the health and well-being of the infant.

They seem to disagree that biological men cannot naturally breastfeed their infants.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: quintessentone

I'd be the first to agree with you if it were true...

I'm not sure which part you are referring to as "if it were true..."

...but when I read it I immediately was led to believe they were discussing breast removal, hence transmen.

What specifically "led" you? Something said or something unsaid? Or something you already knew? For example, that breast reduction surgery may inhibit breastfeeding?

Then I read this thread's title and boom, clickbait.

I don't think the title is clickbait so much as... I'm not sure. It was and is the CDC's duty and responsibility to provide comprehensive information to the public. The CDC knows damn well that male "chestfeeding" is happening. The CDC knows damn well that "transgender" applies to both male and female transitioners. The CDC failed to make any distinctions whatsoever; therefore, the CDC information is in fact and in deed inclusive of male transgenders. They're just being chicken#s and refusing to own it.

And what happens as a result? We sit here arguing about what the CDC really meant, and males continue to try to "chestfeed", with no clear guidelines or standards to protect the health and well-being of the infant.

They seem to disagree that biological men cannot naturally breastfeed their infants.

Do they seem to?

a reply to: Boadicea

In sections of the major health institute’s guidance on breastfeeding, it contained information for biological men taking hormones to grow breasts, on how to feed their newborn children

This process must be outlawed immediately. Taking hormones to grow breasts....

Jesus

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: quintessentone

I'd be the first to agree with you if it were true...

I'm not sure which part you are referring to as "if it were true..."

...but when I read it I immediately was led to believe they were discussing breast removal, hence transmen.

What specifically "led" you? Something said or something unsaid? Or something you already knew? For example, that breast reduction surgery may inhibit breastfeeding?

Then I read this thread's title and boom, clickbait.

I don't think the title is clickbait so much as... I'm not sure. It was and is the CDC's duty and responsibility to provide comprehensive information to the public. The CDC knows damn well that male "chestfeeding" is happening. The CDC knows damn well that "transgender" applies to both male and female transitioners. The CDC failed to make any distinctions whatsoever; therefore, the CDC information is in fact and in deed inclusive of male transgenders. They're just being chicken#s and refusing to own it.

And what happens as a result? We sit here arguing about what the CDC really meant, and males continue to try to "chestfeed", with no clear guidelines or standards to protect the health and well-being of the infant.

They seem to disagree that biological men cannot naturally breastfeed their infants.

Do they seem to?

So you agree or disagree?

a reply to: Boadicea

Like I said, that's what I gleaned from reading the OPs CDC source, of course, people will read into it what they will.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: quintessentone

I'd be the first to agree with you if it were true...

I'm not sure which part you are referring to as "if it were true..."

...but when I read it I immediately was led to believe they were discussing breast removal, hence transmen.

What specifically "led" you? Something said or something unsaid? Or something you already knew? For example, that breast reduction surgery may inhibit breastfeeding?

Then I read this thread's title and boom, clickbait.

I don't think the title is clickbait so much as... I'm not sure. It was and is the CDC's duty and responsibility to provide comprehensive information to the public. The CDC knows damn well that male "chestfeeding" is happening. The CDC knows damn well that "transgender" applies to both male and female transitioners. The CDC failed to make any distinctions whatsoever; therefore, the CDC information is in fact and in deed inclusive of male transgenders. They're just being chicken#s and refusing to own it.

And what happens as a result? We sit here arguing about what the CDC really meant, and males continue to try to "chestfeed", with no clear guidelines or standards to protect the health and well-being of the infant.

They seem to disagree that biological men cannot naturally breastfeed their infants.

Do they seem to?

So you agree or disagree?

You seem to know what I think and feel, so you tell us.

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: Boadicea

Like I said, that's what I gleaned from reading the OPs CDC source, of course, people will read into it what they will.

Mental gymnastics my friend. Get to the point.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: quintessentone

I'd be the first to agree with you if it were true...

I'm not sure which part you are referring to as "if it were true..."

...but when I read it I immediately was led to believe they were discussing breast removal, hence transmen.

What specifically "led" you? Something said or something unsaid? Or something you already knew? For example, that breast reduction surgery may inhibit breastfeeding?

Then I read this thread's title and boom, clickbait.

I don't think the title is clickbait so much as... I'm not sure. It was and is the CDC's duty and responsibility to provide comprehensive information to the public. The CDC knows damn well that male "chestfeeding" is happening. The CDC knows damn well that "transgender" applies to both male and female transitioners. The CDC failed to make any distinctions whatsoever; therefore, the CDC information is in fact and in deed inclusive of male transgenders. They're just being chicken#s and refusing to own it.

And what happens as a result? We sit here arguing about what the CDC really meant, and males continue to try to "chestfeed", with no clear guidelines or standards to protect the health and well-being of the infant.

They seem to disagree that biological men cannot naturally breastfeed their infants.

Do they seem to?

So you agree or disagree?

You seem to know what I think and feel, so you tell us.

The question is posed.

Can biological men naturally breastfeed their infants?

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: quintessentone

I'd be the first to agree with you if it were true...

I'm not sure which part you are referring to as "if it were true..."

...but when I read it I immediately was led to believe they were discussing breast removal, hence transmen.

What specifically "led" you? Something said or something unsaid? Or something you already knew? For example, that breast reduction surgery may inhibit breastfeeding?

Then I read this thread's title and boom, clickbait.

I don't think the title is clickbait so much as... I'm not sure. It was and is the CDC's duty and responsibility to provide comprehensive information to the public. The CDC knows damn well that male "chestfeeding" is happening. The CDC knows damn well that "transgender" applies to both male and female transitioners. The CDC failed to make any distinctions whatsoever; therefore, the CDC information is in fact and in deed inclusive of male transgenders. They're just being chicken#s and refusing to own it.

And what happens as a result? We sit here arguing about what the CDC really meant, and males continue to try to "chestfeed", with no clear guidelines or standards to protect the health and well-being of the infant.

They seem to disagree that biological men cannot naturally breastfeed their infants.

Do they seem to?

So you agree or disagree?

You seem to know what I think and feel, so you tell us.

The question is posed.

Can biological men naturally breastfeed their infants?

That's not what this thread topic is about, the clickbait title does not match what CDC is explaining. Did you read the CDC article, if so, explain to me what you understood from it. So we can try to have a meeting of the minds.

a reply to: AlienBorg

This process must be outlawed immediately. Taking hormones to grow breasts....

That there is a slippery slope.

Speaking hypothetically, I do not think we could outlaw "breast enhancement" for one sex and not the other; nor do I think we could outlaw hormone use for one sex and not another; and even if we could and did, there are other means by which men could enlarge their breasts, such as excess consumption of soy products which are very high in phyto estrogens.

We could certainly try, but I don't think it would pass Constitutional muster.

And I'm not sure we should try. Where would we draw the line? Who gets to decide what grown adults can do to their own bodies? Who decides what this person can add or subtract and what that person can add or subtract? In the case of male "chestfeeding," there is another person involved -- one who cannot express a preference, whether yay or nay -- so we can and should definitely take the necessary steps to protect the innocent. But in terms of adults making decisions about their own body, I'm not inclined to interfere.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: AlienBorg

This process must be outlawed immediately. Taking hormones to grow breasts....

That there is a slippery slope.

Speaking hypothetically, I do not think we could outlaw "breast enhancement" for one sex and not the other; nor do I think we could outlaw hormone use for one sex and not another; and even if we could and did, there are other means by which men could enlarge their breasts, such as excess consumption of soy products which are very high in phyto estrogens.

We could certainly try, but I don't think it would pass Constitutional muster.

And I'm not sure we should try. Where would we draw the line? Who gets to decide what grown adults can do to their own bodies? Who decides what this person can add or subtract and what that person can add or subtract? In the case of male "chestfeeding," there is another person involved -- one who cannot express a preference, whether yay or nay -- so we can and should definitely take the necessary steps to protect the innocent. But in terms of adults making decisions about their own body, I'm not inclined to interfere.

Exactly, so why is everyone up in arms what others do with their bodies? It really is nobody's business.

a reply to: quintessentone

Like I said, that's what I gleaned from reading the OPs CDC source, of course, people will read into it what they will.

Of course they will! Which is exactly why this non-sense from the CDC is so irresponsible, and shady, because they know better.

People do what they know. People recognize and see what they know. People believe what fits in with their personal experience and knowledge. Very few people (relatively speaking) are personally informed or educated on all the ins and outs of transitioning, especially in medical matters, like male lactation and "chestfeeding."

The CDC's responsibility is to fill that void with facts and information, providing the most thorough and complete information possible. They failed to do so.

And I believe it was willful on their part. They wanted to provide information while retaining plausible deniability. And let the rest of us argue about what they really mean... or don't mean.

originally posted by: RonnieJersey
What are they trying to do, invent a whole new nation of freaks?
Do any male primates breastfeed their young?
Anyone taking fake hormones is never a positive thing, and is more than dangerous for babies.
Is there something in the water lately??

They are trying to destroy our image and credibility.

a reply to: quintessentone

Exactly, so why is everyone up in arms what others do with their bodies? It really is nobody's business.

"Everyone" isn't concerned with what others do with their bodies. In regards to this specific situation, most people are concerned about the babies. Specifically, the adverse effects of male lactation as a primary source of nourishment and sustenance for an infant who literally cannot express their own will. The concern is for what others are doing to babies' bodies.

Likewise, most people are concerned about the impact of trans demands on other people, particularly women, from sports to single-sex spaces. And to a lesser extent, many people are concerned about the impact of the trans agenda on transgender persons themselves -- from their physical health to their mental health and their emotional health.

What scares most/many people is the lack of concern or respect by the trans activists for others, for the short-term and long-term impact on others, for the safety of others, for the rights of others.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: AlienBorg

This process must be outlawed immediately. Taking hormones to grow breasts....

That there is a slippery slope.

Speaking hypothetically, I do not think we could outlaw "breast enhancement" for one sex and not the other; nor do I think we could outlaw hormone use for one sex and not another; and even if we could and did, there are other means by which men could enlarge their breasts, such as excess consumption of soy products which are very high in phyto estrogens.

We could certainly try, but I don't think it would pass Constitutional muster.

And I'm not sure we should try. Where would we draw the line? Who gets to decide what grown adults can do to their own bodies? Who decides what this person can add or subtract and what that person can add or subtract? In the case of male "chestfeeding," there is another person involved -- one who cannot express a preference, whether yay or nay -- so we can and should definitely take the necessary steps to protect the innocent. But in terms of adults making decisions about their own body, I'm not inclined to interfere.

I don't think men should be taking hormones to pretend they are women or pretend they breastfeed their infants. That what should be outlawed. Women can breastfeed without any problems and if they have any issues then medicine could help them.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: quintessentone

I'd be the first to agree with you if it were true...

I'm not sure which part you are referring to as "if it were true..."

...but when I read it I immediately was led to believe they were discussing breast removal, hence transmen.

What specifically "led" you? Something said or something unsaid? Or something you already knew? For example, that breast reduction surgery may inhibit breastfeeding?

Then I read this thread's title and boom, clickbait.

I don't think the title is clickbait so much as... I'm not sure. It was and is the CDC's duty and responsibility to provide comprehensive information to the public. The CDC knows damn well that male "chestfeeding" is happening. The CDC knows damn well that "transgender" applies to both male and female transitioners. The CDC failed to make any distinctions whatsoever; therefore, the CDC information is in fact and in deed inclusive of male transgenders. They're just being chicken#s and refusing to own it.

And what happens as a result? We sit here arguing about what the CDC really meant, and males continue to try to "chestfeed", with no clear guidelines or standards to protect the health and well-being of the infant.

They seem to disagree that biological men cannot naturally breastfeed their infants.

Do they seem to?

So you agree or disagree?

You seem to know what I think and feel, so you tell us.

The question is posed.

Can biological men naturally breastfeed their infants?

That's not what this thread topic is about, the clickbait title does not match what CDC is explaining. Did you read the CDC article, if so, explain to me what you understood from it. So we can try to have a meeting of the minds.

It says men. The CDC position is confused.

a reply to: carewemust

If a man is ever seen or found to be breastfeeding a baby, he should be arrested immediately for sexual abuse.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
Hormone treatment magically grows milkducts?

That's news to me.

As far as I know it just creates fatty tissue, no milk producing properties available due to original genetics.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is flat out delusional based on the info I have.

It's flat out delusional based on facts, common sense, and science, too. All things this current CDC lacks knowledge in.