Centers For Disease Control Issues Guidance On Men Properly Breastfeeding Babies.

a reply to: quintessentone

Are you implying the CDC is using covert and insidious science to implement the trans agenda?

No, I'm not implying such, but it seems that you are inferring such.

I am outright stating that the CDC failed to address the subject of male "chestfeeding" in the transgender population.

And I am noting that in the past, covert and insidious tactics have been used to implement the trans agenda without opportunity for public input or objection.

I will further state that such tactics are known to be SOP for trans activists. (I just tried to find the report I read, but I could not find it.)

I was just reading an article where biological men are capable of lactating, it's only a google search away. ext

Well, of course! Male lactation is a thing. Many infants -- both male and female -- temporarily produce and secrete breastmilk, often known as "Witches Tears." It's been known to happen during puberty as well -- both males and females. I believe the first I heard of it was from the Bible, in which a man (Mordecai if I remember correctly), reportedly breastfed his child after his wife became ill.

However, it is not the same healthful and nutritious substance that mother's produce naturally, although I could only find one study which actually compared nutrients -- micronutrients to be specific; fats, proteins and electrolytes -- and found that the milk produced by males was most similar to colostrum. Other medical studies have shown that a mother's natural breastmilk changes in composition to cater to the growing infant's needs. In other words, the breastmilk produced pre-term, at-term, and post-term, differs in nutrients and composition. The milk produced at birth, at three months and at six months will all differ.

A couple reports I read regarding "chestfeeding" within the transgender community shows that it's not universally accepted even within the community for the reasons stated above. Many are adamant that male chestfeeding should not be used for sustenance for the child, but could be valuable for bonding and nurturing (not nourishing, but nurturing and comforting) between a male transgender parent and the child.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

What is the point of saying "ignore the sources from the OP", if you are just going to add the same sources to your comment?

Clickbait sources and clickbait title. Wise up.

a reply to: quintessentone

Still does not answer the question you were asked, but I'm used to it at this point

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Still does not answer the question you were asked, but I'm used to it at this point

We are all used to each other's nonsense, let's try a new tack, how about fair discussion for a change?

a reply to: quintessentone

Nothing unfair about a question regarding your comment, it only seems that way to someone who doesn't want to answer a direct question.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Nothing unfair about a question regarding your comment, it only seems that way to someone who doesn't want to answer a direct question.

Your modus operandi is well known here, you know full well foxnews and bitchute etc. are clickbait sources.

a reply to: quintessentone

Those were not the ones I was referring to.

If you were to pay attention to your own reply, you said "Skip the foxnews and other sources from the OP", which includes the ones that you then linked in your reply.

Why go about saying to ignore them, then comment them yourself?

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Those were not the ones I was referring to.

If you were to pay attention to your own reply, you said "Skip the foxnews and other sources from the OP", which includes the ones that you then linked in your reply.

Why go about saying to ignore them, then comment them yourself?

No, those were the one's I was referring too from all of the OPs sources and you are either twisting the facts, as per usual, or are just confused.

a reply to: quintessentone

Nothing to twist in your owns words you said "and other sources", those were the other sources in the OP.

Try to keep up bud

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Nothing to twist in your owns words you said "and other sources", those were the other sources in the OP.

Try to keep up bud

So because you can't be bothered to have me clarify the other sources, which was any sources other than the CDC and where the CDC got it's information, you have license to go off on a confused tangent?

a reply to: quintessentone

No confused tangent, just trying to keep you accountable for your words. If you didn't mean all of the sources you shouldn't have said "and other sources" when referring to the op.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

No confused tangent, just trying to keep you accountable for your words. If you didn't mean all of the sources you shouldn't have said "and other sources" when referring to the op.

Okay, let's clarify any sources other than CDC and CDC's sources are clickbait, as per usual here on ATS. Take the thread title too, clickbait, but this is par the course here. Just pointing out the obvious to the oblivious.

a reply to: quintessentone

So then we should expect you to never use another source, other than the CDC, if you want to be taken serious form now on?

Can do

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

So then we should expect you to never use another source, other than the CDC, if you want to be taken serious form now on?

Can do

Back on topic, clickbait thread title and clickbait sources are foxnews and the others usually used to create drama (not CDC in this case).

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: quintessentone

Are you implying the CDC is using covert and insidious science to implement the trans agenda?

No, I'm not implying such, but it seems that you are inferring such.

I am outright stating that the CDC failed to address the subject of male "chestfeeding" in the transgender population.

And I am noting that in the past, covert and insidious tactics have been used to implement the trans agenda without opportunity for public input or objection.

I will further state that such tactics are known to be SOP for trans activists. (I just tried to find the report I read, but I could not find it.)

I was just reading an article where biological men are capable of lactating, it's only a google search away. ext

Well, of course! Male lactation is a thing. Many infants -- both male and female -- temporarily produce and secrete breastmilk, often known as "Witches Tears." It's been known to happen during puberty as well -- both males and females. I believe the first I heard of it was from the Bible, in which a man (Mordecai if I remember correctly), reportedly breastfed his child after his wife became ill.

However, it is not the same healthful and nutritious substance that mother's produce naturally, although I could only find one study which actually compared nutrients -- micronutrients to be specific; fats, proteins and electrolytes -- and found that the milk produced by males was most similar to colostrum. Other medical studies have shown that a mother's natural breastmilk changes in composition to cater to the growing infant's needs. In other words, the breastmilk produced pre-term, at-term, and post-term, differs in nutrients and composition. The milk produced at birth, at three months and at six months will all differ.

A couple reports I read regarding "chestfeeding" within the transgender community shows that it's not universally accepted even within the community for the reasons stated above. Many are adamant that male chestfeeding should not be used for sustenance for the child, but could be valuable for bonding and nurturing (not nourishing, but nurturing and comforting) between a male transgender parent and the child.

The OP and misleading thread title have been orchestrated to mislead people here and to continue the never-ending trans drama.

a reply to: quintessentone

Is this based on fact or just your, all knowing, opinion?

Fox news can be a very credible source for a lot of things. You just have to understand that they aren't a left wing echo chamber all the time as you would want them to be.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Is this based on fact or just your, all knowing, opinion?

Fox news can be a very credible source for a lot of things. You just have to understand that they aren't a left wing echo chamber all the time as you would want them to be.

Fox news is not credible in this instance as the CDC sources explain in detail. But nobody wants to read those sources, now do they?

a reply to: quintessentone

Fox news is the originating source, then you go to the CDC for more info, why do people not realize that.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Fox news is the originating source, then you go to the CDC for more info, why do people not realize that.

The originating source (as on this thread's title) should be the CDC science, not fox news' very special slant on things.

The title is clickbait as if we all went to the CDC source first we all would see they mention only transmen not men nor transwomen, but those facts don't matter, now do they?

a reply to: quintessentone

Is that the same CDC 'science' that gave us the 'vaccine' information?

I'm thinking Fox news was more reliable regards that.

I wouldn't trust the CDC for anything.