The moment the trans agenda goes off the rails thread

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, we're old timey scientists.

We still have beakers and Bunsen burners.

We'd study empirical evidence, not emotional evidence.

Guilty as charged.

I posted too soon before looking up related studies and there are a lot of them which won't fit your narrative either.

www.sciencedirect.com...

Maybe.

But are you smart enough to look up and read studies that don't fit your narrative?

Why would I dismiss actual neuroscience with other disciplines studies in place of old biology narratives?

So the answer is no.

You only read things that agree with your ideology.

At least you're honest in your ignorance.

My ideology is finding the truth through empirical evidence, as I said above, I do and will continue to look at both sides, but both sides keep refuting each other, so I am waiting for repeatable and peer reviewed studies. What are you doing to find the truth?

Oh that's easy.

Since I actually have a degree in developmental neurobiology, I can read and form my own educated opinions.

Since you do not, it is difficult to discuss with someone who doesn't have the requisite educational background.

I can say I am an amateur neuroscientist so I can certainly understand more than you think I can't.

My God.

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Annee

Okay Annee.

Can't speak on my source, but they cite their sources. And that stuff is happening in schools. You can do the research yourself I guess.

I think you're a predator apologist at this point.

I'm really disappointed to have to come to that conclusion.

I am disappointed that you would come to that false conclusion.

It's not a false conclusion.

Every conversation ends the same way. Ignorant support of the harm of children.

It's disgusting.

I can say the same of you. You want them to force the transgender children to be who they are not, risking depression, self harm and suicide.

But I won't because I know you are too ignorant to comprehend what you are advocating for.

There are no transgender children. In fact there is no human who can transition between the two genders as it's physically impossible. And remember gender = sex

The trans lobby wants gender to be something else completely but they haven't succeeded as the movement is empty and based on nothing more than linguistics.

Why are you like a broken record?

This is a symptom of telling the truth to serial “non-truthers”.

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Annee

Okay Annee.

Can't speak on my source, but they cite their sources. And that stuff is happening in schools. You can do the research yourself I guess.

I think you're a predator apologist at this point.

I'm really disappointed to have to come to that conclusion.

I am disappointed that you would come to that false conclusion.

It's not a false conclusion.

Every conversation ends the same way. Ignorant support of the harm of children.

It's disgusting.

I can say the same of you. You want them to force the transgender children to be who they are not, risking depression, self harm and suicide.

But I won't because I know you are too ignorant to comprehend what you are advocating for.

There are no transgender children. In fact there is no human who can transition between the two genders as it's physically impossible. And remember gender = sex

The trans lobby wants gender to be something else completely but they haven't succeeded as the movement is empty and based on nothing more than linguistics.

Why are you like a broken record?

This is a symptom of telling the truth to serial “non-truthers”.

Um I already told him many times that I agree that you cannot change your biological sex. And yet he kept repeating. Is he trying to convince himself or what?

I will continue to take the word of scientist Ben Barres — transgender female to male.

Ben A. Barres (September 13, 1954 – December 27, 2017) was an American neurobiologist at Stanford University. His research focused on the interaction between neurons and glial cells in the nervous system. Beginning in 2008, he was chair of the Neurobiology Department at Stanford University School of Medicine. He transitioned to male in 1997, and became the first openly transgender scientist in the National Academy of Sciences in 2013.

The Transgender Scientist Who Changed How We See the Brain: www.theatlantic.com...

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: AlienBorg
a reply to: quintessentone

You have tried all avenues and you have failed each single time. But before you can make any claims and engage in discussions you have to be able to answer if transition is possible between sexes. Someone else said is impossible, which is honest, but it makes transition and transgenderism physically impossible.

Can one change one's name?

When you say things like this, it no longer looks like you’re pursuing a rational answer.

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, we're old timey scientists.

We still have beakers and Bunsen burners.

We'd study empirical evidence, not emotional evidence.

Guilty as charged.

I posted too soon before looking up related studies and there are a lot of them which won't fit your narrative either.

www.sciencedirect.com...

Maybe.

But are you smart enough to look up and read studies that don't fit your narrative?

Why would I dismiss actual neuroscience with other disciplines studies in place of old biology narratives?

So the answer is no.

You only read things that agree with your ideology.

At least you're honest in your ignorance.

My ideology is finding the truth through empirical evidence, as I said above, I do and will continue to look at both sides, but both sides keep refuting each other, so I am waiting for repeatable and peer reviewed studies. What are you doing to find the truth?

An experiment that gives odd chemicals to highly suggestible children in search of a desired result, doesn’t really count as empirical evidence.
Empirical evidence should be things that happen independently in nature, in normal settings, that can be observed repeatedly enough to suggest a reasonable theory.
What you’re falling in love with here is convoluted customised science theater. More propaganda than science.

How is androstadienone not natural or not pertaining to nature?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

lol

By all means, please go on ahead.

lol

And in the future because of your chosen narrative, when I do post the new and/or repeated studies you just go on ahead and pass it by because I'm tired of these same 'ole tired back and forths.

Nah.

I'll speak out against bad science, biased science, biased reporting, basically the gas lighting going on.

But you do you, Boo.

originally posted by: Annee
I will continue to take the word of scientist Ben Barres — transgender female to male.

Ben A. Barres (September 13, 1954 – December 27, 2017) was an American neurobiologist at Stanford University. His research focused on the interaction between neurons and glial cells in the nervous system. Beginning in 2008, he was chair of the Neurobiology Department at Stanford University School of Medicine. He transitioned to male in 1997, and became the first openly transgender scientist in the National Academy of Sciences in 2013.

The Transgender Scientist Who Changed How We See the Brain: www.theatlantic.com...

so you will continue to take the word of a mentally ill person...

...makes sense.

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, we're old timey scientists.

We still have beakers and Bunsen burners.

We'd study empirical evidence, not emotional evidence.

Guilty as charged.

I posted too soon before looking up related studies and there are a lot of them which won't fit your narrative either.

www.sciencedirect.com...

Maybe.

But are you smart enough to look up and read studies that don't fit your narrative?

We wouldn't be here if we weren't questioning the narratives, hmm? Think about it for a minute. Don't hurt yourself.

Dear gods!

Your ilk is pushing the government approved narratives.

I have now made opera laugh at you.

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
-Paganini, Scene 3, Act 2

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, we're old timey scientists.

We still have beakers and Bunsen burners.

We'd study empirical evidence, not emotional evidence.

Guilty as charged.

I posted too soon before looking up related studies and there are a lot of them which won't fit your narrative either.

www.sciencedirect.com...

Maybe.

But are you smart enough to look up and read studies that don't fit your narrative?

Why would I dismiss actual neuroscience with other disciplines studies in place of old biology narratives?

So the answer is no.

You only read things that agree with your ideology.

At least you're honest in your ignorance.

My ideology is finding the truth through empirical evidence, as I said above, I do and will continue to look at both sides, but both sides keep refuting each other, so I am waiting for repeatable and peer reviewed studies. What are you doing to find the truth?

Oh that's easy.

Since I actually have a degree in developmental neurobiology, I can read and form my own educated opinions.

Since you do not, it is difficult to discuss with someone who doesn't have the requisite educational background.

I can say I am an amateur neuroscientist so I can certainly understand more than you think I can't.

My God.

Take it up with my professor.

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Annee

Okay Annee.

Can't speak on my source, but they cite their sources. And that stuff is happening in schools. You can do the research yourself I guess.

I think you're a predator apologist at this point.

I'm really disappointed to have to come to that conclusion.

I am disappointed that you would come to that false conclusion.

You don’t know it’s false, and he doesn’t know it’s true.
You do have a propensity for making dramatic announcements that you have no way of knowing.

So much for trusting any of this customised “science” that is being bandied about.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

lol

By all means, please go on ahead.

lol

And in the future because of your chosen narrative, when I do post the new and/or repeated studies you just go on ahead and pass it by because I'm tired of these same 'ole tired back and forths.

Nah.

I'll speak out against bad science, biased science, biased reporting, basically the gas lighting going on.

But you do you, Boo.

You don't have the education nor are involved in newer transgender studies so you really don't have any leg to stand on.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, we're old timey scientists.

We still have beakers and Bunsen burners.

We'd study empirical evidence, not emotional evidence.

Guilty as charged.

I posted too soon before looking up related studies and there are a lot of them which won't fit your narrative either.

www.sciencedirect.com...

Maybe.

But are you smart enough to look up and read studies that don't fit your narrative?

We wouldn't be here if we weren't questioning the narratives, hmm? Think about it for a minute. Don't hurt yourself.

Dear gods!

Your ilk is pushing the government approved narratives.

I have now made opera laugh at you.

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
-Paganini, Scene 3, Act 2

My ilk? I have no ilk.

You seem...uuuuuh... a bit off.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, we're old timey scientists.

We still have beakers and Bunsen burners.

We'd study empirical evidence, not emotional evidence.

Guilty as charged.

I posted too soon before looking up related studies and there are a lot of them which won't fit your narrative either.

www.sciencedirect.com...

Maybe.

But are you smart enough to look up and read studies that don't fit your narrative?

We wouldn't be here if we weren't questioning the narratives, hmm? Think about it for a minute. Don't hurt yourself.

Dear gods!

Your ilk is pushing the government approved narratives.

I have now made opera laugh at you.

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
-Paganini, Scene 3, Act 2

These are not government pushed narratives these are scientists and medical professionals that are trying to figure this out and help people.

originally posted by: Another_Nut

originally posted by: Annee
I will continue to take the word of scientist Ben Barres — transgender female to male.

Ben A. Barres (September 13, 1954 – December 27, 2017) was an American neurobiologist at Stanford University. His research focused on the interaction between neurons and glial cells in the nervous system. Beginning in 2008, he was chair of the Neurobiology Department at Stanford University School of Medicine. He transitioned to male in 1997, and became the first openly transgender scientist in the National Academy of Sciences in 2013.

The Transgender Scientist Who Changed How We See the Brain: www.theatlantic.com...

so you will continue to take the word of a mentally ill person...

...makes sense.

Let’s weigh your accomplishments against his.

He doesn’t sound mentally I’ll to me.

Do you have a science award named after you?

BEN BARRES SPOTLIGHT AWARD

2023 marks the fifth year of our Ben Barres Spotlight Awards, an award scheme that provides visibility and funding for researchers from groups that have been traditionally underrepresented in biology and medicine or who work in countries with limited research support.

originally posted by: Annee
I will continue to take the word of scientist Ben Barres — transgender female to male.

Ben A. Barres (September 13, 1954 – December 27, 2017) was an American neurobiologist at Stanford University. His research focused on the interaction between neurons and glial cells in the nervous system. Beginning in 2008, he was chair of the Neurobiology Department at Stanford University School of Medicine. He transitioned to male in 1997, and became the first openly transgender scientist in the National Academy of Sciences in 2013.

The Transgender Scientist Who Changed How We See the Brain: www.theatlantic.com...

Lmao, no chance of bias or producing results for the home team with this guy, eh ?
When someone is introduced as “transgender scientist “ it gets a red flag from the get-go.
Does this clown have that proudly printed on his business card ?

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Annee

Okay Annee.

Can't speak on my source, but they cite their sources. And that stuff is happening in schools. You can do the research yourself I guess.

I think you're a predator apologist at this point.

I'm really disappointed to have to come to that conclusion.

I am disappointed that you would come to that false conclusion.

You don’t know it’s false, and he doesn’t know it’s true.
You do have a propensity for making dramatic announcements that you have no way of knowing.

So much for trusting any of this customised “science” that is being bandied about.

Science is based on empirical evidence whose theories can be overturned by new theories with new evidence. Of example, people once thought washing hands was crazy.

There is no "100% truth" or "100% false" in science.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

lol

By all means, please go on ahead.

lol

And in the future because of your chosen narrative, when I do post the new and/or repeated studies you just go on ahead and pass it by because I'm tired of these same 'ole tired back and forths.

Nah.

I'll speak out against bad science, biased science, biased reporting, basically the gas lighting going on.

But you do you, Boo.

You don't have the education nor are involved in newer transgender studies so you really don't have any leg to stand on.

Agreed, I am not "woke" I don't think you can switch genders.

You caught me.

Busted.

originally posted by: Annee
I will continue to take the word of scientist Ben Barres — transgender female to male.

Ben A. Barres (September 13, 1954 – December 27, 2017) was an American neurobiologist at Stanford University. His research focused on the interaction between neurons and glial cells in the nervous system. Beginning in 2008, he was chair of the Neurobiology Department at Stanford University School of Medicine. He transitioned to male in 1997, and became the first openly transgender scientist in the National Academy of Sciences in 2013.

The Transgender Scientist Who Changed How We See the Brain: www.theatlantic.com...

I was just reading where the scientific and medical professions are calling for more transgendered scientists to come into the fields of science to delve deeper into this phenomenon. Buckle up buttercups, those specific studies will be irrefutable in the coming years.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, we're old timey scientists.

We still have beakers and Bunsen burners.

We'd study empirical evidence, not emotional evidence.

Guilty as charged.

I posted too soon before looking up related studies and there are a lot of them which won't fit your narrative either.

www.sciencedirect.com...

Maybe.

But are you smart enough to look up and read studies that don't fit your narrative?

We wouldn't be here if we weren't questioning the narratives, hmm? Think about it for a minute. Don't hurt yourself.

Dear gods!

Your ilk is pushing the government approved narratives.

I have now made opera laugh at you.

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
-Paganini, Scene 3, Act 2

These are not government pushed narratives these are scientists and medical professionals that are trying to figure this out and help people.

Uh-huh.

Who's funding these "studies" and at what "universities"?