The moment the trans agenda goes off the rails thread

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Annee

Okay Annee.

Can't speak on my source, but they cite their sources. And that stuff is happening in schools. You can do the research yourself I guess.

I think you're a predator apologist at this point.

I'm really disappointed to have to come to that conclusion.

I am disappointed that you would come to that false conclusion.

It's not a false conclusion.

Every conversation ends the same way. Ignorant support of the harm of children.

It's disgusting.

I can say the same of you. You want them to force the transgender children to be who they are not, risking depression, self harm and suicide.

But I won't because I know you are too ignorant to comprehend what you are advocating for.

There are no transgender children. In fact there is no human who can transition between the two genders as it's physically impossible. And remember gender = sex

The trans lobby wants gender to be something else completely but they haven't succeeded as the movement is empty and based on nothing more than linguistics.

Then more scientific studies seem to prove you wrong, again.

And yet scientists continue to study the brain in hopes of understanding whether a sense of the gendered self can, at least in part, be the result of neurology. A study described by author Francine Russo in Scientific American examined the brains of 39 prepubertal and 41 adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria. The experiment examined how these children responded to androstadienone, a pungent substance similar to pheromones, that is known to cause a different response in the brains of men and women. The study found that adolescent boys and girls who described themselves as trans responded like the peers of their perceived gender. (The results were less clear with prepubescent children.)

This kind of testing is important, said one of the researchers Russo quoted, “because sex differences in responding to odors cannot be influenced by training or environment.” A similar study was done in measuring the responses of trans boys and girls to echolike sounds produced in the inner ear. “Boys with gender dysphoria responded more like typical females, who have a stronger response to these sounds.”

www.washingtonpost.com...

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Annee

Okay Annee.

Can't speak on my source, but they cite their sources. And that stuff is happening in schools. You can do the research yourself I guess.

I think you're a predator apologist at this point.

I'm really disappointed to have to come to that conclusion.

I am disappointed that you would come to that false conclusion.

It's not a false conclusion.

Every conversation ends the same way. Ignorant support of the harm of children.

It's disgusting.

I can say the same of you. You want them to force the transgender children to be who they are not, risking depression, self harm and suicide.

But I won't because I know you are too ignorant to comprehend what you are advocating for.

There are no transgender children. In fact there is no human who can transition between the two genders as it's physically impossible. And remember gender = sex

The trans lobby wants gender to be something else completely but they haven't succeeded as the movement is empty and based on nothing more than linguistics.

Then more scientific studies seem to prove you wrong, again.

And yet scientists continue to study the brain in hopes of understanding whether a sense of the gendered self can, at least in part, be the result of neurology. A study described by author Francine Russo in Scientific American examined the brains of 39 prepubertal and 41 adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria. The experiment examined how these children responded to androstadienone, a pungent substance similar to pheromones, that is known to cause a different response in the brains of men and women. The study found that adolescent boys and girls who described themselves as trans responded like the peers of their perceived gender. (The results were less clear with prepubescent children.)

This kind of testing is important, said one of the researchers Russo quoted, “because sex differences in responding to odors cannot be influenced by training or environment.” A similar study was done in measuring the responses of trans boys and girls to echolike sounds produced in the inner ear. “Boys with gender dysphoria responded more like typical females, who have a stronger response to these sounds.”

www.washingtonpost.com...

There are no scientific studies on transgenderism.
Transgenderism is a movement of linguistics and nothing more, it has no basis in science.

What you have called 'scientific studies' is nothing more than an opinion piece in Washington Post by some unqualified professor of English...who claims some nonsense about sex. To understand sex look at the brain she says which is false and nonsensical.

Jennifer Finney Boylan is a professor of English at Barnard College of Columbia University and a fellow at Harvard University’s Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study. Her most recent book is “Mad Honey,” co-written with Jodi Picoult.

Try better next time rather than making things even worse for your dogma.

Professors of English speaking about sex in washingtonpost, things can't get worse for the transgender ideology.

a reply to: quintessentone

You have tried all avenues and you have failed each single time. But before you can make any claims and engage in discussions you have to be able to answer if transition is possible between sexes. Someone else said is impossible, which is honest, but it makes transition and transgenderism physically impossible.

a reply to: quintessentone

can-sg.org...#:~:text=A%20person's%20genetic%20inheritance%2C%20their,during%20embryonic%20deve lopment%20(phenotype).

Humans cannot change sex, which was determined at fertilization (genotype) and during embryonic development (phenotype).

Grade8 biology

I know the trans lobby and their agenda wished it wasn't true and are trying to play linguistic games with the word gender but it doesn't work I am afraid.

a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm not sure if you are deliberately playing games here or you simply can't help yourself in reading only what you want to see. As per the study she is talking about, this is it.

Other investigators have looked at sex differences through brain functioning. In a study published in 2014, psychologist Sarah M. Burke of VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam and biologist Julie Bakker of the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience used functional MRI to examine how 39 prepubertal and 41 adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded to androstadienone, an odorous steroid with pheromonelike properties that is known to cause a different response in the hypothalamus of men versus women. They found that the adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded much like peers of their experienced gender. The results were less clear with the prepubertal children.

Do you see the titles of psychologist and biologist?

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm not sure if you are deliberately playing games here or you simply can't help yourself in reading only what you want to see. As per the study she is talking about, this is it.

Other investigators have looked at sex differences through brain functioning. In a study published in 2014, psychologist Sarah M. Burke of VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam and biologist Julie Bakker of the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience used functional MRI to examine how 39 prepubertal and 41 adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded to androstadienone, an odorous steroid with pheromonelike properties that is known to cause a different response in the hypothalamus of men versus women. They found that the adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded much like peers of their experienced gender. The results were less clear with the prepubertal children.

Do you see the titles of psychologist and biologist?

I ve seen the interpretations by the professor of english and made a comment earlier

What you have called 'scientific studies' is nothing more than an opinion piece in Washington Post by some unqualified professor of English...who claims some nonsense about sex. To understand sex look at the brain she says which is false and nonsensical.

No we don't as sex cannot change and it depends only on chromosomes.

Humans cannot change sex, which was determined at fertilization (genotype) and during embryonic development (phenotype).

Sex is either male or female (binary) and can't change no matter what the trans lobby is trying either online or offline. Grade8 biology is enough to refute every claim made about sex change. There is no evidence anyone ever has changed sex.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm not sure if you are deliberately playing games here or you simply can't help yourself in reading only what you want to see. As per the study she is talking about, this is it.

Other investigators have looked at sex differences through brain functioning. In a study published in 2014, psychologist Sarah M. Burke of VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam and biologist Julie Bakker of the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience used functional MRI to examine how 39 prepubertal and 41 adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded to androstadienone, an odorous steroid with pheromonelike properties that is known to cause a different response in the hypothalamus of men versus women. They found that the adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded much like peers of their experienced gender. The results were less clear with the prepubertal children.

Do you see the titles of psychologist and biologist?

I ve seen the interpretations by the professor of english and made a comment earlier

What you have called 'scientific studies' is nothing more than an opinion piece in Washington Post by some unqualified professor of English...who claims some nonsense about sex. To understand sex look at the brain she says which is false and nonsensical.

No we don't as sex cannot change and it depends only on chromosomes.

Humans cannot change sex, which was determined at fertilization (genotype) and during embryonic development (phenotype).

Sex is either male or female (binary) and can't change no matter what the trans lobby is trying either online or offline. Grade8 biology is enough to refute every claim made about sex change. There is no evidence anyone ever has changed sex.

My post was introducing the study and the comments of anyone associated with the article are secondary. Here is the study.

www.sciencedaily.com...

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Annee

Okay Annee.

Can't speak on my source, but they cite their sources. And that stuff is happening in schools. You can do the research yourself I guess.

I think you're a predator apologist at this point.

I'm really disappointed to have to come to that conclusion.

I am disappointed that you would come to that false conclusion.

It's not a false conclusion.

Every conversation ends the same way. Ignorant support of the harm of children.

It's disgusting.

I can say the same of you. You want them to force the transgender children to be who they are not, risking depression, self harm and suicide.

But I won't because I know you are too ignorant to comprehend what you are advocating for.

telling a child they can "become" the other sex, when that isn't possible, is the lie here. A Girl who is a tom boy doesn't need drugs, they just need to be who they are. A boy who plays with dolls and girl stuff needs to be allowed to play and do what he would normally do. No drugs. If that boy, or that girl feels they need to look like the opposite sex, then telling them they can dress differently is fine. But telling them they can "transition" is a lie, and would do irreparable damage to a child's mind.

If adults want to play dress up, fine. Let the kids be kids and leave them out of this psyop. It would be best for all involved.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm not sure if you are deliberately playing games here or you simply can't help yourself in reading only what you want to see. As per the study she is talking about, this is it.

Other investigators have looked at sex differences through brain functioning. In a study published in 2014, psychologist Sarah M. Burke of VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam and biologist Julie Bakker of the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience used functional MRI to examine how 39 prepubertal and 41 adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded to androstadienone, an odorous steroid with pheromonelike properties that is known to cause a different response in the hypothalamus of men versus women. They found that the adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded much like peers of their experienced gender. The results were less clear with the prepubertal children.

Do you see the titles of psychologist and biologist?

I ve seen the interpretations by the professor of english and made a comment earlier

What you have called 'scientific studies' is nothing more than an opinion piece in Washington Post by some unqualified professor of English...who claims some nonsense about sex. To understand sex look at the brain she says which is false and nonsensical.

No we don't as sex cannot change and it depends only on chromosomes.

Humans cannot change sex, which was determined at fertilization (genotype) and during embryonic development (phenotype).

Sex is either male or female (binary) and can't change no matter what the trans lobby is trying either online or offline. Grade8 biology is enough to refute every claim made about sex change. There is no evidence anyone ever has changed sex.

My post was introducing the study and the comments of anyone associated with the article are secondary. Here is the study.

www.sciencedaily.com...

Nowhere in the study you linked gender dysphoria is equated with 'being transgender' or with sex change (which is physically impossible).

One of the authors is a psychologist who worked in gender field studies. Another is a psychiatrist. From her work description.

Again, from a developmental neuroscience perspective, her aim is to explore and explain the mismatch between one’s subjective experience of self and the physical reality of the own body.

In a few words she is trying to explain what was known as gender identity disorder. It's so clear those who really think they're the other gender have a mental health issue.

The study shows how the brain reacts in different ways brains exposed to a specific pheromone. Nothing else. It nowhere shows the brain of transgender young people is the same as their identified gender.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm not sure if you are deliberately playing games here or you simply can't help yourself in reading only what you want to see. As per the study she is talking about, this is it.

Other investigators have looked at sex differences through brain functioning. In a study published in 2014, psychologist Sarah M. Burke of VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam and biologist Julie Bakker of the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience used functional MRI to examine how 39 prepubertal and 41 adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded to androstadienone, an odorous steroid with pheromonelike properties that is known to cause a different response in the hypothalamus of men versus women. They found that the adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded much like peers of their experienced gender. The results were less clear with the prepubertal children.

Do you see the titles of psychologist and biologist?

I ve seen the interpretations by the professor of english and made a comment earlier

What you have called 'scientific studies' is nothing more than an opinion piece in Washington Post by some unqualified professor of English...who claims some nonsense about sex. To understand sex look at the brain she says which is false and nonsensical.

No we don't as sex cannot change and it depends only on chromosomes.

Humans cannot change sex, which was determined at fertilization (genotype) and during embryonic development (phenotype).

Sex is either male or female (binary) and can't change no matter what the trans lobby is trying either online or offline. Grade8 biology is enough to refute every claim made about sex change. There is no evidence anyone ever has changed sex.

My post was introducing the study and the comments of anyone associated with the article are secondary. Here is the study.

www.sciencedaily.com...

Nowhere in the study you linked gender dysphoria is equated with 'being transgender' or with sex change (which is physically impossible).

One of the authors is a psychologist who worked in gender field studies. Another is a psychiatrist. From her work description.

Again, from a developmental neuroscience perspective, her aim is to explore and explain the mismatch between one’s subjective experience of self and the physical reality of the own body.

In a few words she is trying to explain what was known as gender identity disorder. It's so clear those who really think they're the other gender have a mental health issue.

The study shows how the brain reacts in different ways brains exposed to a specific pheromone. Nothing else. It nowhere shows the brain of transgender young people is the same as their identified gender.

The results:

These results suggest that as children with gender dysphoria grow up, their brain naturally undergoes a partial rewiring, to become more similar to the brain of the opposite sex -- so corresponding to their experienced gender.

Right there in black and white in a scientific journal. We need a blinders on person's head meme.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg

I'm not sure if you are deliberately playing games here or you simply can't help yourself in reading only what you want to see. As per the study she is talking about, this is it.

Other investigators have looked at sex differences through brain functioning. In a study published in 2014, psychologist Sarah M. Burke of VU University Medical Center in Amsterdam and biologist Julie Bakker of the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience used functional MRI to examine how 39 prepubertal and 41 adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded to androstadienone, an odorous steroid with pheromonelike properties that is known to cause a different response in the hypothalamus of men versus women. They found that the adolescent boys and girls with gender dysphoria responded much like peers of their experienced gender. The results were less clear with the prepubertal children.

Do you see the titles of psychologist and biologist?

I ve seen the interpretations by the professor of english and made a comment earlier

What you have called 'scientific studies' is nothing more than an opinion piece in Washington Post by some unqualified professor of English...who claims some nonsense about sex. To understand sex look at the brain she says which is false and nonsensical.

No we don't as sex cannot change and it depends only on chromosomes.

Humans cannot change sex, which was determined at fertilization (genotype) and during embryonic development (phenotype).

Sex is either male or female (binary) and can't change no matter what the trans lobby is trying either online or offline. Grade8 biology is enough to refute every claim made about sex change. There is no evidence anyone ever has changed sex.

My post was introducing the study and the comments of anyone associated with the article are secondary. Here is the study.

www.sciencedaily.com...

Nowhere in the study you linked gender dysphoria is equated with 'being transgender' or with sex change (which is physically impossible).

One of the authors is a psychologist who worked in gender field studies. Another is a psychiatrist. From her work description.

Again, from a developmental neuroscience perspective, her aim is to explore and explain the mismatch between one’s subjective experience of self and the physical reality of the own body.

In a few words she is trying to explain what was known as gender identity disorder. It's so clear those who really think they're the other gender have a mental health issue.

The study shows how the brain reacts in different ways brains exposed to a specific pheromone. Nothing else. It nowhere shows the brain of transgender young people is the same as their identified gender.

The results:

These results suggest that as children with gender dysphoria grow up, their brain naturally undergoes a partial rewiring, to become more similar to the brain of the opposite sex -- so corresponding to their experienced gender.

Right there in black and white in a scientific journal. We need a blinders on person's head meme.

Nowhere this is a testimony your brain becomes the same as the brain of the opposite sex or that you have suddenly changed your sex. You need to learn how to interpret these findings. And this is just one finding btw not accepted wisdom.

In a few words, sex remains an immutable characteristic and can never change because it is dependent on chromosomes only.

Like I said above

"The study shows how the brain reacts in different ways when exposed to a specific pheromone. Nothing else. It nowhere shows the brain of transgender young people is the same as their identified gender"

I don't think any respectable scientist will make claims that sex can change. It will be the end of their career. Some graduates in humanities, anthropology, sociology, and the related subjects, every now and then do make claims about sex. But they are neither respectable nor they're scientists.

a reply to: quintessentone

congrats. If you pump a kid full of drugs and lop off his dick, and tell him every day he's a she, eventually, he will believe it. Even when the reality is he will never stop being a boy dressed like a girl. Sounds like a fantastic plan. In case you wondered why folks think you are nuts, this is a great example.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

congrats. If you pump a kid full of drugs and lop off his dick, and tell him every day he's a she, eventually, he will believe it. Even when the reality is he will never stop being a boy dressed like a girl. Sounds like a fantastic plan. In case you wondered why folks think you are nuts, this is a great example.

I am posting scientific studies that disprove it's a mental illness or they are somehow groomed into that mental state. If the usual suspects here think I'm nuts, then all the scientists that agree with me must be nuts too, is that your stance?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

congrats. If you pump a kid full of drugs and lop off his dick, and tell him every day he's a she, eventually, he will believe it. Even when the reality is he will never stop being a boy dressed like a girl. Sounds like a fantastic plan. In case you wondered why folks think you are nuts, this is a great example.

I am posting scientific studies that disprove it's a mental illness or they are somehow groomed into that mental state. If the usual suspects here think I'm nuts, then all the scientists that agree with me must be nuts too, is that your stance?

So all scientists should be trusted, n'est ce pas?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

congrats. If you pump a kid full of drugs and lop off his dick, and tell him every day he's a she, eventually, he will believe it. Even when the reality is he will never stop being a boy dressed like a girl. Sounds like a fantastic plan. In case you wondered why folks think you are nuts, this is a great example.

I am posting scientific studies that disprove it's a mental illness or they are somehow groomed into that mental state. If the usual suspects here think I'm nuts, then all the scientists that agree with me must be nuts too, is that your stance?

there is no science that agrees with you .. you are , indeed, nuts .. which is why you believe your own lie.

this is another sign of mental illness.

eta

its also why you wont answer questions that would initiate cognitive dissonance.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

congrats. If you pump a kid full of drugs and lop off his dick, and tell him every day he's a she, eventually, he will believe it. Even when the reality is he will never stop being a boy dressed like a girl. Sounds like a fantastic plan. In case you wondered why folks think you are nuts, this is a great example.

I am posting scientific studies that disprove it's a mental illness or they are somehow groomed into that mental state. If the usual suspects here think I'm nuts, then all the scientists that agree with me must be nuts too, is that your stance?

So all scientists should be trusted, n'est ce pas?

Reasonable methodology within a study should be trusted.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

congrats. If you pump a kid full of drugs and lop off his dick, and tell him every day he's a she, eventually, he will believe it. Even when the reality is he will never stop being a boy dressed like a girl. Sounds like a fantastic plan. In case you wondered why folks think you are nuts, this is a great example.

I am posting scientific studies that disprove it's a mental illness or they are somehow groomed into that mental state. If the usual suspects here think I'm nuts, then all the scientists that agree with me must be nuts too, is that your stance?

So all scientists should be trusted, n'est ce pas?

Reasonable methodology within a study should be trusted.

I really don't think you know how science works.

And that's speaking as a scientist.

If we just trusted one study then the sun would still revolve around the Earth, bathing would be considered irrational, and women would not be allowed to go onto higher education because their brains aren't as complex.

lol

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

congrats. If you pump a kid full of drugs and lop off his dick, and tell him every day he's a she, eventually, he will believe it. Even when the reality is he will never stop being a boy dressed like a girl. Sounds like a fantastic plan. In case you wondered why folks think you are nuts, this is a great example.

I am posting scientific studies that disprove it's a mental illness or they are somehow groomed into that mental state. If the usual suspects here think I'm nuts, then all the scientists that agree with me must be nuts too, is that your stance?

So all scientists should be trusted, n'est ce pas?

Reasonable methodology within a study should be trusted.

I really don't think you know how science works.

And that's speaking as a scientist.

If we just trusted one study then the sun would still revolve around the Earth, bathing would be considered irrational, and women would not be allowed to go onto higher education because their brains aren't as complex.

lol

You all non-believers of neuroscientific empirical evidence (MRI) in regards to transgendered brains are hanging on to the old limited science. You are all guilty of trusting that science and not having an open mind with the new scientific methods. But you are right in one respect, that is only one study among many of it's kind, and I will be keeping track of these studies that scientists are right now repeating for truth.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: quintessentone

congrats. If you pump a kid full of drugs and lop off his dick, and tell him every day he's a she, eventually, he will believe it. Even when the reality is he will never stop being a boy dressed like a girl. Sounds like a fantastic plan. In case you wondered why folks think you are nuts, this is a great example.

I am posting scientific studies that disprove it's a mental illness or they are somehow groomed into that mental state. If the usual suspects here think I'm nuts, then all the scientists that agree with me must be nuts too, is that your stance?

So all scientists should be trusted, n'est ce pas?

Reasonable methodology within a study should be trusted.

I really don't think you know how science works.

And that's speaking as a scientist.

If we just trusted one study then the sun would still revolve around the Earth, bathing would be considered irrational, and women would not be allowed to go onto higher education because their brains aren't as complex.

lol

You all non-believers of neuroscientific empirical evidence (MRI) in regards to transgendered brains are hanging on to the old limited science. You are all guilty of trusting that science and not having an open mind with the new scientific methods. But you are right in one respect, that is only one study among many of it's kind, and I will be keeping track of these studies that scientists are right now repeating for truth.

watch this

can a human change sex?

is there a fundamental biological difference between a male and a female?

can a child, or a parent on a childs behalf, consent to radical , life altering acts in a non-life threating situation?

a reply to: quintessentone

Yeah, we're old timey scientists.

We still have beakers and Bunsen burners.

We'd study empirical evidence, not emotional evidence.

Guilty as charged.