The moment the trans agenda goes off the rails thread

a reply to: quintessentone

You are correct.

The Biden administration wants people to have the right to infringe upon other individuals rights.

The Biden administration wants inequality when it comes to individual rights.

And you are championing this.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

You are correct.

The Biden administration wants people to have the right to infringe upon other individuals rights.

The Biden administration wants inequality when it comes to individual rights.

And you are championing this.

I am not championing anything, I am providing facts on the matter, not knee jerk responses. Schools will be allowed to reject transgender athletes with reason, not because of blanket discrimination or banning.

The U.S. Department of Education proposed a new rule that would allow schools to reject transgender athletes from competing on sports teams that align with their gender identity, when questions of physicality and fairness arise. The rule would prohibit schools from issuing blanket bans on transgender athletes in school sports, making such a policy a violation of Title IX.

a reply to: quintessentone
Ummm, no, no they don't. Not yet anyway.
Title IX prohibits sex discrimination, as it should.
There are only two sexes.
Biden has proposed making changes but I don't think he has as of yet.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: igloo

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone


Why not advocate to also remove lesbians from women's locker rooms too? Where is that outrage?

The discrimination goes way beyond locker rooms and you know it.

that's quite a conundrum. I can't speak for every man, but I will say, two dudes kissing is just yuk, but two girls going at it, is hot with two t's. Among men, I suspect there is a level of acceptance for one, that doesn't exist for the other.

If I had a choice between a lesbian ogling my body as a sex object with a proposition (harassment) coming vs. a transwomen maybe sneaking a peek for curiosity sake, then I'd choose the latter.

As a biological woman, Id way prefer the lesbians ogling me because I know they do not have a penis they could use as a weapon in closed quarters like a locker room. I think most biological women feel this. To be fair, Id almost guarantee that a transwoman who passes as a woman wants to be lady like and wont show off her privates in public. They arent the problem and never were, its the great free for all that can attract the seedier portion of the population and ruin womens sense of safety.

Lesbians don't need a penis they have fingers and maybe are hiding a strap on. Watch out.

99% of sexual crimes are committed by men.
supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu...#:~:text=An%20estimated%2091%25%20of%20victims,99%25%20of%20perpetrators%20are%20male.

For the 1% of female perps, I am confident that I'm as strong or stronger than a large percentage of my female peers and I'm 100% certain I'd rather fend off an attack by a woman than a man.

Additionally, women would never be faced with the possibility of pregnancy or deadly stds as a result of a digital rape or some object.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: quintessentone
Ummm, no, no they don't. Not yet anyway.
Title IX prohibits sex discrimination, as it should.
There are only two sexes.
Biden has proposed making changes but I don't think he has as of yet.

I was replying to the point of 'discrimination' vs. infringement on other's rights, not about whether or not this rule is in effect or not. Hence, my posting the Title IX information as your government considers it as 'sex discrimination'.

We were not discussing two sexes, why not start your own thread about it?

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: igloo

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone


Why not advocate to also remove lesbians from women's locker rooms too? Where is that outrage?

The discrimination goes way beyond locker rooms and you know it.

that's quite a conundrum. I can't speak for every man, but I will say, two dudes kissing is just yuk, but two girls going at it, is hot with two t's. Among men, I suspect there is a level of acceptance for one, that doesn't exist for the other.

If I had a choice between a lesbian ogling my body as a sex object with a proposition (harassment) coming vs. a transwomen maybe sneaking a peek for curiosity sake, then I'd choose the latter.

As a biological woman, Id way prefer the lesbians ogling me because I know they do not have a penis they could use as a weapon in closed quarters like a locker room. I think most biological women feel this. To be fair, Id almost guarantee that a transwoman who passes as a woman wants to be lady like and wont show off her privates in public. They arent the problem and never were, its the great free for all that can attract the seedier portion of the population and ruin womens sense of safety.

Lesbians don't need a penis they have fingers and maybe are hiding a strap on. Watch out.

99% of sexual crimes are committed by men.
supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu...#:~:text=An%20estimated%2091%25%20of%20victims,99%25%20of%20perpetrators%20are%20male.

For the 1% of female perps, I am confident that I'm as strong or stronger than a large percentage of my female peers and I'm 100% certain I'd rather fend off an attack by a woman than a man.

Well since the universal locker rooms are being installed there is or will in the very near future be no need to fear any attack by a transgendered person, now is there? So where are your stats for transwomen attacking women in any location?

a reply to: quintessentone

a) ONE locker room in Kalamazoo does not equal ALL locker rooms across the states, now does it?

b) transwomen are men, and thus fall into the 99% category

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: quintessentone

a) ONE locker room in Kalamazoo does not equal ALL locker rooms across the states, now does it?

b) transwomen are men, and thus fall into the 99% category

Post stats of transwomen attacking women in locker rooms is all I asked you to provide.

a reply to: quintessentone

I provided the stats regarding the percentage of sex crimes committed by men. So there's your answer.

Next.

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: quintessentone

I provided the stats regarding the percentage of sex crimes committed by men. So there's your answer.

Next.

It's actually discriminating against women.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude

Guys in dresses should not be the foundation for policy change.

No but discrimination should.

Who's being discriminated against?

Guys that want to get naked in girls locker rooms?

Good.

Those who have issues with it need to advocate for trans locker rooms. Society moves very slowly with changes.

Why not advocate to also remove lesbians from women's locker rooms too? Where is that outrage?

The discrimination goes way beyond locker rooms and you know it.

The outrage is for men who have not undergone 'bottom surgery' who think they should be able to expose themselves in women's locker rooms and showers. It shouldn't matter how those men think about themselves or not. The personal feelings of one person should not overrule the feelings of an entire group of people.

And ponder this:

If an unaltered man truly feels that he is a woman, then he should understand the discomfort his exposed penis will create in a shower or locker room.

If he does not understand the discomfort, then how can he say he feels like a woman?

If he does understand the discomfort and does not care, or thinks his feelings are more important that all the women he exposes himself to, then he lacks empathy and/or is a sociopath.

If he lack empathy or is a sociopath, how can he say he feels like a woman?

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude

Guys in dresses should not be the foundation for policy change.

No but discrimination should.

Who's being discriminated against?

Guys that want to get naked in girls locker rooms?

Good.

Those who have issues with it need to advocate for trans locker rooms. Society moves very slowly with changes.

Why not advocate to also remove lesbians from women's locker rooms too? Where is that outrage?

The discrimination goes way beyond locker rooms and you know it.

The outrage is for men who have not undergone 'bottom surgery' who think they should be able to expose themselves in women's locker rooms and showers. It shouldn't matter how those men think about themselves or not. The personal feelings of one person should not overrule the feelings of an entire group of people.

And ponder this:

If an unaltered man truly feels that he is a woman, then he should understand the discomfort his exposed penis will create in a shower or locker room.

If he does not understand the discomfort, then how can he say he feels like a woman?

If he does understand the discomfort and does not care, or thinks his feelings are more important that all the women he exposes himself to, then he lacks empathy and/or is a sociopath.

If he lack empathy or is a sociopath, how can he say he feels like a woman?

Where are the stats that these unaltered transwomen, down there, are attacking women in locker rooms? Where are any stats that unaltered transwomen are attacking women at all?

The bottom line is there are disqualifying events with what people choose to do in their life. If a man decides they are a transwoman then it disqualifies them to compete against biological women just as in many sports if a man takes steroids then they are disqualified too.

I just do not understand how people just can't rationally understand that part. As to plumbing, I would suggest a person uses the bathroom that their plumbing is based on. I remember back in 1998 we had a person retire from the military and then transition to everything but the bottom. They used the men's locker room (on base) and no one cared including the person. It seems 20+ years ago people understood human plumbing better.

The bigger issue that is really driving all of this is the insane notion that a male with a word can instantly become a biological female in all aspects and we just need to overlook those pesky bio parts.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude

Guys in dresses should not be the foundation for policy change.

No but discrimination should.

Who's being discriminated against?

Guys that want to get naked in girls locker rooms?

Good.

Those who have issues with it need to advocate for trans locker rooms. Society moves very slowly with changes.

Why not advocate to also remove lesbians from women's locker rooms too? Where is that outrage?

The discrimination goes way beyond locker rooms and you know it.

The outrage is for men who have not undergone 'bottom surgery' who think they should be able to expose themselves in women's locker rooms and showers. It shouldn't matter how those men think about themselves or not. The personal feelings of one person should not overrule the feelings of an entire group of people.

And ponder this:

If an unaltered man truly feels that he is a woman, then he should understand the discomfort his exposed penis will create in a shower or locker room.

If he does not understand the discomfort, then how can he say he feels like a woman?

If he does understand the discomfort and does not care, or thinks his feelings are more important that all the women he exposes himself to, then he lacks empathy and/or is a sociopath.

If he lack empathy or is a sociopath, how can he say he feels like a woman?

Where are the stats that these unaltered transwomen, down there, are attacking women in locker rooms? Where are any stats that unaltered transwomen are attacking women at all?

Heh, controlling the narrative. . .

A naked man in a womans locker room is an assault without any acts of violence.

It's an assault on privacy, etc.

a reply to: quintessentone

I think since you like stats so much you should find them yourself and share your answers here. While you're at it, you ought to look up the amount of sexual assaults committed by lesbian women in locker rooms and changing areas as well so we can compare.

originally posted by: quintessentone

Where are the stats that these unaltered transwomen, down there, are attacking women in locker rooms? Where are any stats that unaltered transwomen are attacking women at all?

If you look you can easily find cases where transwomen get rather upset (sometimes violently) if people around them do not agree 100% with their narrative, so I would say this is how it would play out typically.

On the other issue of plumbing, a penis has no business in a women's locker room no matter what they person thinks they are.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude

Guys in dresses should not be the foundation for policy change.

No but discrimination should.

Who's being discriminated against?

Guys that want to get naked in girls locker rooms?

Good.

Those who have issues with it need to advocate for trans locker rooms. Society moves very slowly with changes.

Why not advocate to also remove lesbians from women's locker rooms too? Where is that outrage?

The discrimination goes way beyond locker rooms and you know it.

The outrage is for men who have not undergone 'bottom surgery' who think they should be able to expose themselves in women's locker rooms and showers. It shouldn't matter how those men think about themselves or not. The personal feelings of one person should not overrule the feelings of an entire group of people.

And ponder this:

If an unaltered man truly feels that he is a woman, then he should understand the discomfort his exposed penis will create in a shower or locker room.

If he does not understand the discomfort, then how can he say he feels like a woman?

If he does understand the discomfort and does not care, or thinks his feelings are more important that all the women he exposes himself to, then he lacks empathy and/or is a sociopath.

If he lack empathy or is a sociopath, how can he say he feels like a woman?

Where are the stats that these unaltered transwomen, down there, are attacking women in locker rooms? Where are any stats that unaltered transwomen are attacking women at all?

Heh, controlling the narrative. . .

A naked man in a womans locker room is an assault without any acts of violence.

It's an assault on privacy, etc.

Well discrimination trumps your infringement on you privacy it would appear. Take it up with your leaders.