Boomers ruined America and why are there STILL no term limits?

a reply to: Turquosie

Having said that, I have no idea if the younger gens will prove to be much better

Unfortunately, the ones about to take over... no not at all, in fact I expect it to be worse, cause at least the boomers let you decide this next generation seems all in on the you will do this for the "greater good".

Kids in High school right now seem to be much more squared away, realize a govt cant be all things to all people and in them I see some hope.

originally posted by: Ch1nch1lla

originally posted by: DAVID64
Yeah...sorry about that. I was busy working my ass off to help build a country for a bunch of ungrateful little sh**s.

Really? Because from younger peoples perspective, all boomers did was send all our jobs to China and give China a huge economic advantage they are now using and will use to dominate the global economy and replace the US dollar as global reserve currency. But ok boomer. You're the best!

WE sent our own jobs to China ?
WE put ourselves out of work ?

You can't help being young, but you can help not being ignorant.

originally posted by: Ch1nch1lla

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Ch1nch1lla

jesus mate educate yourself, you dont have to be 35 to run for office, there are mayors that are teen agers people your age sitting in state legislatures.

Stop crying get to doing if you hate the world that much, be that change you desire so much.
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In general lot of people in this thread that have obviously never lived anywhere other than the area they grew up in. The US is huge entirely different dynamics in different locations in the US.

Get out see the nation, get out see the world expand your horizons rather than sit at home and complain about boomers.

I am a gen x imitate us find your own path and happiness in the world dont wait for the govt to tell you what should make you happy.

Been around the world thanks to the military. Still got about 15 years left. Had to join at 18 because there were no economic opportunities left in America since the boomers sent all our jobs to China.

Wrong.

www.tradesnation.com...

There is a significant shortage of skilled tradespeople. In fact, the industry as a whole is expected to grow 10 percent by 2028, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Additionally, demand has been greatly outpacing the supply in the United States6, with no signs of slowing down. It’s estimated that more than 3 million skilled trades jobs will remain open by 2028.

a reply to: Ch1nch1lla

I don't care for term limits because it is a way of limiting the knowledge, wisdom and skill of elected representatives, thereby enhancing the power of unelected staff members and lobbyists. I would have no problem with an upper age limit or mental acuity test to determine if a person is fit for office. It's ridiculous to have near vegetables as US senators -- Dianne Feinstein, and the late Strom Thurmond being exhibits A and B; they're like Grandpa from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

I certainly wouldn't blame boomers for the country's ills. That sin I will blame on elected politicians, judges, regulators and law enforcement agents who haven't done their jobs.

a reply to: Ch1nch1lla
thought young people from the millenial group were all about equality and diversity and not discriminating against others
but your post just tells me you are being ageist

you think because they are old they are out of touch

the best thing to do is change the system if you are that way inclined

you are still young so plenty time to dedicate to changing the system for the benefit of all rather than the few

personally i think government are a #ing joke the world over im twice your age and I realised i hated government around the age of 21 -22

good luck to you though , you already have one part of politics down, and thats blaming the previous administrations for the current way of things

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: datguy
I think they are alluding to idea of assassination, or in the case of someone like myself "suicide" or "missing"
I should note now that I am of sound mind (subjective?) and in no way suicidal!

Oh, gotcha. It is a possibility. It's also a possibility that some racist f#ck assassinated JFK for fighting for the blacks.

Well dang, can’t even keep our moans & groans and victims and tales separated these days, they just all run together. From boomers to old politicians to racists, oh my.
If you want to do better than build the modern economy and society and defend it in a few major wars, like the boomers did, you’re gonna have to do more than maintain a book of 1001 complaints and accusations.

originally posted by: stevieray
Well dang, can’t even keep our moans & groans and victims and tales separated these days, they just all run together. From boomers to old politicians to racists, oh my.
If you want to do better than build the modern economy and society and defend it in a few major wars, like the boomers did, you’re gonna have to do more than maintain a book of 1001 complaints and accusations.

Did people oppose the civil rights act because they weren't racist?

a reply to: Ch1nch1lla

Boomers, the new Boogeyman. Absolutely brilliant.

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: ITSALIVE

to be fair, its not his fault that he was subject to the failed education policies of George Bush Jr.'s "no child left behind" act.

Remember the hanging chads!!

I would actually go so far to argue that these failed policies were the seeds of what we are seeing across the country now in newer, controversial educational laws

No child allowed to excel

To be fair, the boomers didn’t even all finish high school let alone expect to have college with debt forgiven loans. Yet somehow managed. So both had a piss poor education.

Being entitled must be great, it’s ALEAYS someone else’s fault you can’t take care of yourself. At some point, when you are in your 20s you look at yourself in the mirror and you decide who are you. Yup life is tough, but it’s your damn life and only you can be responsible for it. Would it surprise you if I said I was probably the same age as the OP?

I'm a millennial.

We're more responsible than the Boomers. I'd say we're neck and neck with Gen X for most responsibility for the current dilapidation.

Blaming the Boomers is just trendy. Your thoughts being as "deep" as a bumper sticker don't bode well for your generation. You may do more damage than we did, you just haven't had a chance yet.

originally posted by: putnam6

I agree 1000 percent on term limits and age limits
also, eliminate 2 party system
and corporate lobbyists

I'd like to see all of that as well, but I don't see how you'll do it without amending the Constitution.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: stevieray
Well dang, can’t even keep our moans & groans and victims and tales separated these days, they just all run together. From boomers to old politicians to racists, oh my.
If you want to do better than build the modern economy and society and defend it in a few major wars, like the boomers did, you’re gonna have to do more than maintain a book of 1001 complaints and accusations.

Did people oppose the civil rights act because they weren't racist?

Ummm, I would think not ….
I was simply having a chuckle at how you couldn’t allow someone to offer the old CIA-Kennedy belief, without you moaning “noooo, waaaaaaciiiiiism”.
Just so many competing complaints.
The other thing that makes me laugh is just the tenor this thing has taken. Most of your buddies have adopted a position that goes like this -
“Hahahaha you are getting old and losing power ….. heehee I know you hate it ….. bwahaha and you’re all dying off!”
You can dress up the 14 YO who’s in their first social studies class and let them howl at the moon about society’s ills …… but they’re still 14.
And like some other wise old fart in this thread said -
you really need to find something more for your resume than the trans wars, BLM and their mansions, antifa and their violence, and the plight of minor attracted persons. And global warming isn’t looking like the miracle topic it once was.

originally posted by: face23785
I'm a millennial.

We're more responsible than the Boomers. I'd say we're neck and neck with Gen X for most responsibility for the current dilapidation.

Blaming the Boomers is just trendy. Your thoughts being as "deep" as a bumper sticker don't bode well for your generation. You may do more damage than we did, you just haven't had a chance yet.

originally posted by: putnam6

I agree 1000 percent on term limits and age limits
also, eliminate 2 party system
and corporate lobbyists

I'd like to see all of that as well, but I don't see how you'll do it without amending the Constitution.

Heard 2 great catch-all ideas this weekend -
1. Only allow the Sens and Reps in DC for a couple big meetings per year. Make them spend all their time at home among their people, away from the lobbyists and other rot.
2. Drastically expand the number of people in the House. A long time ago they used to represent about 30 K citizens, now it’s something like 750 K. Having less people to serve will force them to keep some promises and actually meet the people.
Not sure if these are constitutional convention things or not. But should be part of any decent candidate’s platform.

It wasn't the boomers, it started before that.

The root isn't just that we need term limits. We need to entirely push corporations out of government. They aren't citizens, they do not deserve any say in what the government (we the people) want or need.

That being said, I don't really like the idea of very young people running the government either. I think 40s-50s is the right spot. They should, by that time, have a vested interest in the success of our country.

Here's a novel concept. Stop making being a politician an actual career option. It was intended to be a service not a lifelong career. Make politicians have, oh I don't know, A JOB instead of spending 30, 40 or 50 years sucking on the public teat.

a reply to: ITSALIVE

I'm sorry you are offended by the truth.
I'm pretty sure boomers had a better education, it wasn't bogged down with rainbows and feelings, it was cold hard knowledge of the real world, history, math and science. biology was dissecting frogs and pig fetus', not deciphering which non existent gender the kids were told to feel like that day. And if they didn't finish H.S. it was because more than 10 million of them got drafted into a war and shipped over seas to die while fighting for your rights to insult and berade their efforts to just live life.

I'm not at all entitled, unless you think that me working hard and fighting for everything I have and having to keep fighting everyday just to keep it, is some sense of entitlement.
And no I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the ignorant comments you made came from an uneducated 20yo, I would be more surprised to hear that coming from an actual boomer

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: face23785
I'm a millennial.

We're more responsible than the Boomers. I'd say we're neck and neck with Gen X for most responsibility for the current dilapidation.

Blaming the Boomers is just trendy. Your thoughts being as "deep" as a bumper sticker don't bode well for your generation. You may do more damage than we did, you just haven't had a chance yet.

originally posted by: putnam6

I agree 1000 percent on term limits and age limits
also, eliminate 2 party system
and corporate lobbyists

I'd like to see all of that as well, but I don't see how you'll do it without amending the Constitution.

Heard 2 great catch-all ideas this weekend -
1. Only allow the Sens and Reps in DC for a couple big meetings per year. Make them spend all their time at home among their people, away from the lobbyists and other rot.

I like making them stay around their people more. The lobbyists will just fly wherever they are though.

2. Drastically expand the number of people in the House. A long time ago they used to represent about 30 K citizens, now it’s something like 750 K. Having less people to serve will force them to keep some promises and actually meet the people.

You have a good point there. Having so many constituents really cuts down on their give-a-damn. The logistics of implementing that in a sensible way are probably beyond the government's abilities though.

originally posted by: face23785


I'd like to see all of that as well, but I don't see how you'll do it without amending the Constitution.

The constitution is "a living document" not in so much as that we live by it but it was created to adapt and evolve and was designed to be amended, it has been amended before and will be amended again, the issue when its done by EO or back room committees. which is, by the constitution, unconstitutional. The the bill of rights are restriction placed on congress, make obvious by statements like "shall not be infringed" "congress shall make no law" "shall not be violated"
It should be a popular vote, or dealt with by the individual states.

I never understood the blame on baby boomers. When they were my age they had similar issues we have today on a smaller scale but that was never their fault. They had to get up and pay bills just like we do today. They where protesting back then like we do today. I don't know I just can't blame an entire generation of people for the problems we have today.

a reply to: Ch1nch1lla

We actually have term limits. Every two years EVERY single representative faces the electorate. They are voted in every 2 years. Senators every 6. The people in their district votes them back in. We need to stop being lazy and vote the bums out...

a reply to: Ch1nch1lla

You are 100000% right and nobody wants to talk about this!

Most companies want to force people out by 65-70 at the oldest but our entire country is run by tales from the crypt looking folks.

We have major age issues in our country. We are telling 14 yr old they are mature enough to work adult jobs, but not adult enough to make decisions about their body and health. You can’t have it both ways!

Bravo, excellent post!!!