Hollywood, FL Shooting

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: LordAhriman

so regardless of what is said your only going to focus on that detail?

The frequency of the events are related to population density, and the effects on population are greater in other countries. And some of these countries have strict gun laws (ok maybe not Venezuela)

Even after we both acknowledged that there is a certain level of "crazy" that should be addressed.

we can look at other information for perspective:
Global comparison of gun policy
and then compare it with ,
Global comparison on health care

Just in case you want to compartmentalize which type of health care

Mental health care

health care...Oh no you didnt.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Welcome to ATS. Someone will be here shortly to tell you how more guns would have stopped this from happening.

They'd be correct.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Welcome to ATS. Someone will be here shortly to tell you how more guns would have stopped this from happening.

Murder is already illegal.

What gun laws would have stopped it?

Mental health screening prior to gun ownership would be a start

a reply to: FamCore

Memorial day in Florida has a high rate of people visiting. Usually lot's of drinking happening. There's always some sort of violence or shootings Memorial Day. Many cities have been trying to keep things under control by limiting drinking hours and whatnot. It's an issue.

Didn't John Titor say something about these types of events would accelerate just prior to a US civil war and a nuke attack?
a reply to: nugget1

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: FamCore

to steal a line, it was homeboy gang bangers.

Officials say that incident began with altercation between two groups Hollywood officials say that the incident started with an altercation between two groups, which escalated with shots being fired. The news station says that one person was taken into custody and one suspect may still be on the loose after the incident, reported CBS Miami.
Florida beach shooting - live: Nine victims shot at Miami’s Hollywood Beach in Memorial Day mass shooting

in other words crime that happens everyday. not your nut job or terrorist deal. for example 44 people shot of which 9 were killed in Chicago over the holiday.

criminals are gonna find a way, be it bats, hatchet, knife, car, brick, full beer bottle, you name it and somebody will figure a way to kill people with it. oh and i almost forgot hammers, there was one fella that was singing, if i had a hammer, i'd hammer paul in the morning, i'd hammer nancy in the evening.

I love the "two groups" rather than calling it what it was "two gangs"

originally posted by: network dude

health care...Oh no you didnt.

I did, but in doing so I am now guilty of using the same type of anecdotal evidence I am against.
While the health care issue IS part of the root problem, its only a portion of the pie.
There is financial disparity, racial disparity, educational...and lots more, but why?

In order to see the bigger picture we have to step even further back, WHY do we have this "disparity" in our society

originally posted by: AntiTrump

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Welcome to ATS. Someone will be here shortly to tell you how more guns would have stopped this from happening.

Murder is already illegal.

What gun laws would have stopped it?

Mental health screening prior to gun ownership would be a start

That's quite the BS answer.

1. Who would pay for it?
2. Who would conduct it?
3. Who would oversee it?

And since it's for a "Right" why not have mental health screening before you vote, or before you speak.

originally posted by: soundsofmadness

originally posted by: seagull
What in the heck is even meant by MAGA Conservative...?

I agree with many of the supposed beliefs of these so-called "Maga Conservatives"...yet I did not, even once, consider voting for the Donald...

Just wondering.

If you are not a democrat, and dont fully support the war in Ukraine or are against trannys teaching kids at school, or dont want biological men competing in women's sports or Didnt bow down to BLM during the summer of love Or are not vaccinated

Then YOU ARE THE ULTRA MAGA CONSERVATIVE

Welcome to the club

Nailed it. I definitely qualify as a Ultra MAGA Conservative. Until now, I thought I was normal.

a reply to: nugget1

You ask a good question. In addition to the "mass shooting in Florida, there was also one in Chicago.

So this article lists the cities in which there were shootings across the US on Memorial Day:
www.nbcnews.com...

This is the story out of Chicago:
abc7chicago.com...

CHICAGO -- It's been a violent and deadly Memorial Day weekend in Chicago with at least 53 shot, 11 fatally, police said.

The shooting victims range in age from 2 to 77 years old, representing every part of the city.

The violence occurred despite a collaborative public safety effort that the new mayor hopes to implement all summer.

Well, you know....it's Chicago.

My "guess" would be that the MSM has "mis-categorized" these events as "mass shootings" to highlight their gun control agenda. When you actually "read" about the events you usually find that the shootings were the result of "volley's" fired between two or more angry "groups" of people, much like the Hatfields and the McCoys. They don't aim very well and often hit bystanders.

My other "guess" is that yea, there's an uptick, its because there's not much in the way of Law Enforcement presence and I would also guess that this is becoming more prevalent as this type behavior is glorified in the music of the Thug Culture and I strongly suspect most all of these shootings are between rival groups of people tied to Thug Culture.

Stay safe......stay away from public parks and gatherings of members of Thug Culture in the Cities.

originally posted by: spacedoubt

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: FamCore

Are mass shootings becoming more common place, or just featured in the news more? Serious question, because they've been common place in a few big cities for years with very little media attention.

We do seem to be having more in places where it hasn't been a regular occurrence, leaving me to wonder what's driving it?

Would it be wrong of me to wonder if the millions of unvetted immigrants of a certain age might be a contributing factor? The U-Haul incident at the capital died out pretty quickly, leaving more questions than answers.

Your stats aren’t reflecting mass shootings.
Which are a different phenomenon.
Where are the mass shootings occurring?

Where are the mass shootings occurring?

Mostly gun free zones...

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: network dude

health care...Oh no you didnt.

I did, but in doing so I am now guilty of using the same type of anecdotal evidence I am against.
While the health care issue IS part of the root problem, its only a portion of the pie.
There is financial disparity, racial disparity, educational...and lots more, but why?

In order to see the bigger picture we have to step even further back, WHY do we have this "disparity" in our society

I agree. And until we have rational discussions that include mental health when dealing with mass shootings, we will only continue to ride the wheel of stupid. BLAME THE GUNZZZZ!!!!!!!! But with any other type of event, we blame the person.

a reply to: network dude

I think if there's a rape we should just blame then ban the penis.

a reply to: network dude

If this is how it works then we should probably ban all drugs and drug OD deaths will just magically end.

Right?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude

I think if there's a rape we should just blame then ban the penis.

Won’t stop rapes. I have had a number of rape cases where no penis was involved.

Just like banning guns won’t stop people from killing each other.

When it comes to killing, man will always find a a way.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Welcome to ATS. Someone will be here shortly to tell you how more guns would have stopped this from happening.

Jeez, talk about a drive by shooting. Posts like the above keep ATS muddy

a reply to: ITSALIVE

You'll get used to it, he is pretty good at it.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude

I think if there's a rape we should just blame then ban the penis.

Won’t stop rapes. I have had a number of rape cases where no penis was involved.

Just like banning guns won’t stop people from killing each other.

When it comes to killing, man will always find a a way.

We should make signs.

"No Rape Zones"

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude

I think if there's a rape we should just blame then ban the penis.

Won’t stop rapes. I have had a number of rape cases where no penis was involved.

Just like banning guns won’t stop people from killing each other.

When it comes to killing, man will always find a a way.

We should make signs.

"No Rape Zones"

Nah.

Someone will just come along and make up a whole bunch of new definitions for what “rape” is.

I spend enough time in court as it is with the definitions and statutes that already exist.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: AntiTrump

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Welcome to ATS. Someone will be here shortly to tell you how more guns would have stopped this from happening.

Murder is already illegal.

What gun laws would have stopped it?

Mental health screening prior to gun ownership would be a start

That's quite the BS answer.

1. Who would pay for it?
2. Who would conduct it?
3. Who would oversee it?

And since it's for a "Right" why not have mental health screening before you vote, or before you speak.

#1Yourself would pay for it
#2 Any board certified psychologist ( testing )
#3 You would have to submit a stable diagnosis to the Federal government.
That answers your 3 questions.
I support the 2A , but anything semi-auto over 10rds should have to carry a federal stamp like a silencer , sbr or full auto .
Bear Arms : MB240 is an armament
Javelin Missile is an armament
Vulcan Mini Gun is an armament etc .
So you think any American should have the right to own artillery , MG42s , Apache Attack copters , Tanks etc , because our military has them ?