Trump Knew the Proper Protocol for Declassifying Records

a reply to: Xtrozero

Kash Patel stated after the subpoena when all the docs with classified markings were supposed to be returned and Trump named him a record keeper, did a video interview with an obscure Facebook channel stating he was just now on the job and they were "going to get these docs declassified and out to the people". So, at that time, after the subpoena,he's now on the job and stated publicly that there were still classified docs on the premises. I posted the link numerous times.

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Xcalibur254

knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

Trump claims he had the authority as President. That will be for the courts to decide.

PedoPete doesn’t and didn’t have that right as VP or Senator… so when should we be expecting his perp walk out of the Oval Office… 🤔

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: JinMI

Remember that pic of all the documents at Mara Largo ? Why would they throw top secret documents on the floor, then take a picture ?
Kinda reminds you of a perp walk so the "good guys" can get a photo op and pump up the case for headlines.
Strangely enough, we didn't see piles of "evidence" when Joe screwed the pooch did we ?

The FBI was following Standard Operating Procedures for crime scene photography. This wasn't their first rodeo.

"Prosecutors must be able to use photographs not only to record conditions, but to reproduce events. Photographers must remember that various range camera locations help to establish different points of view."

From:

www.ojp.gov...

Crime scene photos need to show not only what classified-marked documents were present, but how they were stored in a non-secure location and what documents they were next to. By knowing what other documents and objects the documents were next to, you can sometime establish when they might have been put there and by whom.

The FBI almost certainly took pictures of the scenes of the Biden documents and the Pence documents, but we don't see them because neither Biden nor Pence are contesting that classified documents were discovered in their possession and there were no court orders required to search the premises--it was all voluntary. The Trump documents were released as part of a court filing because Trump is contesting the issue.

a reply to: 1947boomer

No they weren't. Evidence photographs are taken without moving evidence. Otherwise it's tainted and not allowed in Court. Boiiinnngggg 😁

a reply to: 1947boomer

The FBI was following Standard Operating Procedures for crime scene photography. This wasn't their first rodeo.

What other former POTUS has been raided again?

The FBI almost certainly took pictures of the scenes of the Biden documents and the Pence documents, but we don't see them because neither Biden nor Pence are contesting that classified documents were discovered in their possession and there were no court orders required to search the premises--it was all voluntary. The Trump documents were released as part of a court filing because Trump is contesting the issue.

Neither was Trump. Thus the turning over of documents, visits from the feds and the lock on the door.

More hackery from you.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Xtrozero

Kash Patel stated after the subpoena when all the docs with classified markings were supposed to be returned and Trump named him a record keeper, did a video interview with an obscure Facebook channel stating he was just now on the job and they were "going to get these docs declassified and out to the people". So, at that time, after the subpoena,he's now on the job and stated publicly that there were still classified docs on the premises. I posted the link numerous times.

Again… Trump could… ya know what… you’re right… Orange Man Bad… lock him up… LOCK HIM UP… 🤣🤣🤣

So Trump didnt follow proper protocol?

What do you think should be his punishment ? Is this real? he was POTUS he can break protocol.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: JinMI

Remember that pic of all the documents at Mara Largo ? Why would they throw top secret documents on the floor, then take a picture ?
Kinda reminds you of a perp walk so the "good guys" can get a photo op and pump up the case for headlines.
Strangely enough, we didn't see piles of "evidence" when Joe screwed the pooch did we ?

The FBI was following Standard Operating Procedures for crime scene photography. This wasn't their first FRAME JOB.

There ya go… fixed that for ya Boomer… you’re welcome… 🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: SwissMarked

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Xcalibur254

knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

Trump claims he had the authority as President. That will be for the courts to decide.

PedoPete doesn’t and didn’t have that right as VP or Senator… so when should we be expecting his perp walk out of the Oval Office… 🤔

Nope. Senators and VPs have authority to possess classified information. When they stop being Senators and VPs, they don't, unless they've been given a security clearance by the incoming administration. Same with Presidents. When they're sitting Presidents they can possess classified info all they want. The moment they stop being President, they have no more right to classified info than any other civilian.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: SwissMarked

originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Xcalibur254

knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

Trump claims he had the authority as President. That will be for the courts to decide.

PedoPete doesn’t and didn’t have that right as VP or Senator… so when should we be expecting his perp walk out of the Oval Office… 🤔

Nope. Senators and VPs have authority to possess classified information. When they stop being Senators and VPs, they don't, unless they've been given a security clearance by the incoming administration. Same with Presidents. When they're sitting Presidents they can possess classified info all they want. The moment they stop being President, they have no more right to classified info than any other civilian.

Walked right into that one didn’t ya Boomer… what was PedoPete from 2017 until 2021… 🤔

a reply to: 1947boomer

Biden was out of office for 4 years. He had possession of those documents during those 4 years.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: 1947boomer

The FBI was following Standard Operating Procedures for crime scene photography. This wasn't their first rodeo.

What other former POTUS has been raided again?

The FBI almost certainly took pictures of the scenes of the Biden documents and the Pence documents, but we don't see them because neither Biden nor Pence are contesting that classified documents were discovered in their possession and there were no court orders required to search the premises--it was all voluntary. The Trump documents were released as part of a court filing because Trump is contesting the issue.

Neither was Trump. Thus the turning over of documents, visits from the feds and the lock on the door.

More hackery from you.

What other POTUS admits on nationwide TV that he packed the boxes with 300 classified documents, kept them for a year and a half, and to this day claims that they belong to him?

Trump was contesting the issue. He had his lawyer sign a document saying all documents marked classified were returned. The photos showed that was a lie.

a reply to: 1947boomer

Are you saying Trump packed those boxes?

Regardless, what other president has been raided please? You said this wasnt their first rodeo...


Again with your hackery

Did you hear about russiagate?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: SwissMarked

"Gift/clothing" is noted.

Id really like to know what part of the warrant made that legit.

The part where it said:

"Any physical documents with classification markings, along with any containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are located, as well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the aforementioned documents and containers/boxes;

From:

d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net...

a reply to: 1947boomer

Perhaps one of us is unfamiliar with the English language.

Where exactly does clothing equal a document or a box........

a reply to: 1947boomer

There's no proof of that. Why lie and scare people? what's the point other than bitter mental jealousy? 😁

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: 1947boomer

No they weren't. Evidence photographs are taken without moving evidence. Otherwise it's tainted and not allowed in Court. Boiiinnngggg 😁

Bull sh*t. The first photos that are taken at a crime scene are of the undisturbed scene. But as the search goes on, evidence can be moved and the movements are documented so that the history of the search can be recreated in court. They can put spent shell casings in a plastic bag, for example, take clothing with bullet holes to the lab to look for powder burns, etc. When the search is over, they will leave with whatever evidence they came for. The crime scene has to be altered by the search.

a reply to: 1947boomer

Documents marked classified that have been declassified can't have the "classified" marks erased can they? 😁

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: 1947boomer

Perhaps one of us is unfamiliar with the English language.

Where exactly does clothing equal a document or a box........

It's one of the contents. Second line of the above quote.

a reply to: 1947boomer

All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or
other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 793, 2071 , or 1519, including the
following:
a. Any physical documents with classification markings, along with any
containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are located, as
well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the
aforementioned documents and containers/boxes;
b. Information, including communications in any form, regarding the
retrieval, storage, or transmission of national defense information or classified material;
c. Any government and/or Presidential Records created between January
20, 2017, and January 20, 2021; or
d. Any evidence of the knowing alteration, destruction, or concealment of
any government and/or Presidential Records, or of any documents with classification markings

...you were saying?