Florida is Going to Find Out How Much Immigrants Do

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In February 2023, Governor Ron DeSantis proposed legislation that would suppress illegal immigration in the state of Florida. In April, the Florida Senate passed the resulting bill (SB 1718), and on May 2, the House followed suit. The bill is now ready for DeSantis to sign it into law.

The legislation includes restrictions and severe penalties that are intended to hinder the flow of illegal immigrants into the state. It increases employment verification requirements, discourages citizens from transporting illegal immigrants, requires hospitals to report on costs related to treating them, and bans the Florida use of driver’s licenses issued to them in other states.

The illegal immigrant issue is one can that has been kicked down the road for too long. I applaud any states actually taking a real action.
That being said…. I think they, and when I say they, I mean Florida are going to find out real quick how much work has been done by immigrants, yes illegal immigrants.

Here in Wisconsin we are about 1/4 the population of Florida and I can tell you first hand the lack of that labor has had a significant impact. The dairy industry has felt it, the seasonal industry has felt it, hotels, restaurants, and many many more industries have felt it. I had half a house of carpeting put in, and they literally had to hire (Mexicans) from another state, and house them in local hotels for a week in order to do the job.
They did an amazing job too.

Maybe Florida will be different due to the large population, but I doubt it. For those following all the attacks and price hikes on food, get ready for more. My suspicion is this will have a massive negative effect on many foods that come from Florida. That is a different discussion though.
It is too early to really see what will happen, but there are grumblings all over social media that people aren’t showing up for construction jobs and much more…

Back to the pain Florida will feel. Sometimes pain is needed before real change can be created. Maybe these states will realize they killed their golden goose. Maybe this will speed up the need for automation. Maybe it will be a combination of both.

S & F excellent thread to explore.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Maybe Florida will be different due to the large population, but I doubt it.

Nearly half of Florida's population is over the age of 50 with about 25% over 65.

I doubt most of them are going to be full time landscapers, dishwashers or housekeepers working for minimum wage.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Maybe Florida will be different due to the large population, but I doubt it.

Nearly half of Florida's population is over the age of 50 with about 25% over 65.

I doubt most of them are going to be full time landscapers, dishwashers or housekeepers working for minimum wage.

They are already saying that some of the crops are going unpicked and construction sites are empty.
Also people are cancelling their vacations due to fears there won’t be services and also to take a stand against the verification.

www.cbsnews.com...

'People aren't showing up to work,' South Florida workers already feeling heat of immigration bill

"Many workers are leaving, thinking they're going to be deported, so they're going to other states," says Jose, an employee. "Everyone is really uneasy…we just want to work to help our families."

originally posted by: JAGStorm
They are already saying that some of the crops are going unpicked and construction sites are empty.

Housing and food are overrated. Just leave them be until some American wants to do that for minimum wage.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

My daughter live in Florida, she have seen a big up in immigration, mostly from Haiti and Jamaica and nope, this people want housing, they want welfare and nope they do not want to work. Many wants to be around asking for money, but in Panama City beach this is not acceptable been a tourist place, they are taken out of the streets if seen bothering the tourist.

These people also tried to open tent cities in parking lots, also were taken out in not time.

Their American dream for illegals now is have a lot of kids and collect welfare at the expenses of the taxpayers.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JAGStorm
They are already saying that some of the crops are going unpicked and construction sites are empty.

Housing and food are overrated. Just leave them be until some American wants to do that for minimum wage.

I already know how it’s going to go because I’ve seen it on a much much smaller scale here.
You know what happened, businesses first tried to guilt people into working even saying that retirees should do it to keep loved places opened. Obviously that didn’t work, so many places closed. Now our state is trying to get 14 year to be allowed to do more jobs that were previously banned due to age..

All this is going to do, is increase wages and benefits to attract the available labor. The Company I work for can't find enough Electrical Technicians, so we are willing to hire people and train them to be Electrical Technicians. I teach two classes a week in Blueprint and Schematics reading as well as the use of measuring instruments (calipers, micrometers).
Our biggest problem is finding people who pass the drug test. (Federal OSHA requirement, not ours)

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

My daughter live in Florida, she have seen a big up in immigration, mostly from Haiti and Jamaica and nope, this people want housing, they want welfare and nope they do not want to work. Many wants to be around asking for money, but in Panama City beach this is not acceptable been a tourist place, they are taken out of the streets if seen bothering the tourist.

These people also tried to open tent cities in parking lots, also were taken out in not time.

Their American dream for illegals now is have a lot of kids and collect welfare at the expenses of the taxpayers.

People that don’t want to work, no problem, we aren’t talking about them because their impact will be little to no impact.

What we are talking about are the thousands and thousands of immigrants that do work. Believe me, there are many behind the scenes that you never knew you’d miss until they are gone.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
All this is going to do, is increase wages and benefits to attract the available labor. The Company I work for can't find enough Electrical Technicians, so we are willing to hire people and train them to be Electrical Technicians. I teach two classes a week in Blueprint and Schematics reading as well as the use of measuring instruments (calipers, micrometers).
Our biggest problem is finding people who pass the drug test. (Federal OSHA requirement, not ours)

Try again, didn’t work here.

They raised wages, raised waged and people STILL didn’t want to do it.

originally posted by: marg6043
My daughter live in Florida, she have seen a big up in immigration, mostly from Haiti and Jamaica and nope, this people want housing, they want welfare and nope they do not want to work.

Except Florida doesn't give them anything like that.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I thought that was commonly known, at least among some of us, the amount of work that (illegal and temp) Immigrants do, work largely that good ol' boy Americans are too lazy to do for the pay.

And some companies have also been feeling the pain of not having workers to pick crops, which is also then passed on to the consumer.

But that is often (purposefully) ignored by the "git rid of all them illegals!" crowd.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
The Company I work for can't find enough Electrical Technicians, so we are willing to hire people and train them to be Electrical Technicians.

Illegals aren't coming to the United States to be licensed electricians, because, you know, you actually need to get a license to do that.

And if some dummy hires a non-licensed electrician than that person is a dummy.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
I already know how it’s going to go because I’ve seen it on a much much smaller scale here.
You know what happened, businesses first tried to guilt people into working even saying that retirees should do it to keep loved places opened. Obviously that didn’t work, so many places closed. Now our state is trying to get 14 year to be allowed to do more jobs that were previously banned due to age..

It's the three part aspect to any business. You can have two of the three but not all three: cheap, fast, quality.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Immigrants are essential.....to a point.

When title 42 expires tomorrow, there are God knows how many illegals poised on the border, ready to cross. I read an article on NBC that they expect as many as 10,000 a day to cross into the U.S.

10,000 PER DAY.

Where will the go ? What will they do ? How do we feed them or house them ? How many are vaccinated and not just Covid, how about a simple MMR or Polio vaccine ?

www.nbcnews.com...

more than 2,000 apprehensions the Rio Grande Valley sector of southeast Texas now averages each day,

In Brownsville, Texas, thousands of migrants per day have crossed across a defunct golf course.

We are about to see a MASSIVE influx of illegals and no idea what to do with them.

originally posted by: SirHardHarry
a reply to: JAGStorm

I thought that was commonly known, at least among some of us, the amount of work that (illegal and temp) Immigrants do, work largely that good ol' boy Americans are too lazy to do for the pay.

And some companies have also been feeling the pain of not having workers to pick crops, which is also them passed on to the consumer.

But that is often (purposefully) ignored by the "git rid of all them illegals!" crowd.

Like I said, Florida is going to find out. It’s a good thing. Maybe it’s time for people to realize who has really been doing so many of these things.

It’s not just about who has been doing these things, it will be about cost!!! That will be the hilarious part.
Hurricane season and you need a new roof,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,buhahahaha good luck on that one!

a reply to: DAVID64

Immigrants are essential.....to a point. When title 42 expires tomorrow, there are God knows how many illegals poised on the border, ready to cross. I read an article on NBC that they expect as many as 10,000 a day to cross into the U.S. 10,000 PER DAY.

They should send them to Wisconsin, I’m not even joking.
The lack of live working bodies is getting critical here.

I was paying $50 and lunch to anyone that wanted to do lawn work and couldn’t get anyone to show up.
There was a guy that turned down any job that couldn’t be done with a skid steer.
Some lady needed lawn work and was providing the riding mower/gas etc and still had no takers.

There are a lot of elderly that need help. The home care places are hiring same day and all of them are severely understaffed.

You know how there are usually dozens and dozens of painters? Not anymore.

I’m giving stereotypical examples of work that has often been done by illegals.
I hope someday they are made legal so they aren’t just taken advantage of. The US has exploited a lot of people for a long time.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Hire some buses and send them where needed.

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: JAGStorm

Hire some buses and send them where needed.

Maybe that’s the answer.

The states that want them, get them the states that don’t, don’t.
See how it works out in 10 years.

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: JAGStorm

Hire some buses and send them where needed.

Maybe that’s the answer.

The states that want them, get them the states that don’t, don’t.
See how it works out in 10 years.

Why not? Try something new and see how it lands.