Professor of Psychiatry: Transgender is a mental disorder that merits treatment

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Annee

I support "gender brain" -- as in your brain tells you who you are. It is a birthright.

Wrong .
Genetics determines that .

Genetics: Genetics is the study of genes, genetic variation, and heredity in organisms

And how exactly does that deny a brain wiring that tells you what gender you are?

Not physical sex organs -- but gender -- who/what you are.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Annee

I support "gender brain" -- as in your brain tells you who you are. It is a birthright.

Wrong .
Genetics determines that .

It would be impossible to have a discussion based on basic scientific principles as the gender ideology is fact free and doesn't accept well established facts.

Do you know the 'gender brain'??!!

A new discovery which is baseless and meaningless as the rest of this ideology.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Annee

I support "gender brain" -- as in your brain tells you who you are. It is a birthright.

Wrong .
Genetics determines that .

Genetics: Genetics is the study of genes, genetic variation, and heredity in organisms

And how exactly does that deny a brain wiring that tells you what gender you are?

Not physical sex organs -- but gender -- who/what you are.

And how exactly does that deny a brain wiring that tells you what gender you are?

Brains misfire from different causes , that is why psychology and psychiatry exists .
And before you start with the "feelz" responses , that is not to say anything like "insanity" .
That only means what it means .
Established science.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Annee

I support "gender brain" -- as in your brain tells you who you are. It is a birthright.

Wrong .
Genetics determines that .

It would be impossible to have a discussion based on basic scientific principles as the gender ideology is fact free and doesn't accept well established facts.

Do you know the 'gender brain'??!!

A new discovery which is baseless and meaningless as the rest of this ideology.

A denial by choice.

You choose to not accept the possibility.

But you don't know.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: stevieray


As another user pointed out, that was no riddle mate.
A Healthcare "professional" using his credentials to discredit a group of people and backed by absolutely zero science....
He is a anti-queer and has been for some time.
To me he is just an old dude stuck in his beliefs and letting those spill over into his professional career.
The dude is smart but also stupid.

A Healthcare "professional" using his credentials to discredit a group of people and backed by absolutely zero science....

Any person on Earth who has even a minor grasp of even the basics of Biology understands the science.
Why not you ?

Gender ideology and trans-activism are incompatible with science.

There is no room in the modern world for science or logic.

I think there is but as I said earlier:

The situation has become so hilarious and it feels like you need to get permission from those activists and the woke mob to publish scientific research papers and articles. When in reality nobody should be taking them seriously. Their ideology is fact free.

This anomalous situation has to be dealt properly. And there are some very good signs that it is happening after a number of sports have banned transwomen from female competitions, several states have banned them too and they have made it almost impossible or banned 'gender affirming care' for minors. Some other places don't allow transwomen in female only spaces, and so on.

More needs to be done.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Annee

I support "gender brain" -- as in your brain tells you who you are. It is a birthright.

Wrong .
Genetics determines that .

It would be impossible to have a discussion based on basic scientific principles as the gender ideology is fact free and doesn't accept well established facts.

Do you know the 'gender brain'??!!

A new discovery which is baseless and meaningless as the rest of this ideology.

A denial by choice.

You choose to not accept the possibility.

But you don't know.

You present the possibility or let's say the fact free assumption of yours as a fact. Nothing else accompanies your argument. We have discussed this before. If you want to discuss these ideas you need more than unsubstantiated personal opinions.

a reply to: Annee

BTW , why did you omit the fact that the sex is also determined by genetics ?
Where do ya think x and y chromosomes come from ?
The brain ?
Those are present shortly after conception .

a reply to: AdifferentOpinion

You post need to be answered with a number of posts given your discussion and arguments.

You said

What is a woman? To that I ask what is a man without referring to body parts? Are men and women not cultural labels based on societal roles, appearance, behavior and experiences? What makes a boy become a man? Is it a special birthday or is it the things we consider men to be; traditionally providers, protectors, leaders, guardians, etc.

No. Men and women are not cultural labels based on societal roles, behaviour, and experiences.

A man is an adult human male
A woman is an adult human female

What determines biological sex is the Y chromosome and not societal roles, opinions, feelings, politics, and activism. If the Y chromosome is present then you have a male, if the Y chromosome is absent then you have s female.

To sum up my views : People are free to make their own decisions on who they want to be .They are the ones responsible for the consequences of their actions .

Disclaimer : I am not trying to change any other person , just going with science , when science is disregarded .

a reply to: AdifferentOpinion

You said:

If you think men can become women, get pregnant and give birth or think this is being claimed by anyone, it doesn’t appear that you are as smart as you think you are? I am neither a “gender ideologist” or a trans activist just someone tired of seeing this blown out of proportion to perpetuate division.

Good! As this way you cancel the transgender ideology. The whole point of this movement is to convince its followers that you can change gender and why not a man can become pregnant and give birth.

It's not me who believes in this nonsense. Take a look at the article for which I made a thread not that long time ago.

www.theguardian.com...

The dad who gave birth: ‘Being pregnant doesn't change me being a trans man’

I don't think I am the one who has blown it out of proportion. If you take a look around it's an absurd ideology that is trying to establish itself against everything and everyone.

a reply to: Asmodeus3


If gc dogwhistles are all you’ve got in come backs, if you’re stuck and unwielding in your ideology and simplistic essentialist understanding of the human condition and can’t even answer what makes a boy a man without resulting to “but muh chromosomes” I don’t know why I’ve even bothered other than having the hope that some might question your sophistic rhetoric and wonder why such a small percentage of the population has you so triggered to start thread after thread about trans people?

originally posted by: AdifferentOpinion
a reply to: Asmodeus3


If gc dogwhistles are all you’ve got in come backs, if you’re stuck and unwielding in your ideology and simplistic essentialist understanding of the human condition and can’t even answer what makes a boy a man without resulting to “but muh chromosomes” I don’t know why I’ve even bothered other than having the hope that some might question your sophistic rhetoric and wonder why such a small percentage of the population has you so triggered to start thread after thread about trans people?

Excuse me? What ideology are you talking about. I have just stated facts and was about to come to conversation of how a boy becomes a man. He goes through puberty as we all know.

I have no idea of what you mean when saying about my 'sophistic rhetoric'. I am simply... stating facts. Are you sure you are not subscribing to the gender ideology and activism as so far you have provided fact free explanations.


Your may have missed my post earlier when I said:


"By the way, I see you are a new member and so welcome to the site. I know that my threads are quite attractive and they do attract a lot of attention. And what more proof I need when a new member creates an ATS account and his/her first post is in my thread and all other posts made so far can again be found here in this thread."

a reply to: AdifferentOpinion


You also said

How many genders exist? Well, in my own experience I have seen a range of masculinity and femininity expressed by both males and females and I believe that we as people are a mix of both energies. I’ve known some traditionally masculine females and some traditionally feminine males but I am aware that my interpretation of these qualities are subjective and based on my societal and cultural influences. Obviously, the most common answer would align with the number of sexes – two but since younger generations seem fixated on finding special labels for themselves, (“moon gender” anyone), I can’t answer that question in a way that most would find valid

Being a feminine male doesn't make you a woman. Being a masculine female doesn't make you a man.

You have to ask yourself why the number of genders is usually two. And why transgenderism encourages people to explore and why not to change gender directly recognising that there are only two genders! What a coincidence between the number of genders and the number of sexes!

Maybe we all know the answer!

originally posted by: AdifferentOpinion
a reply to: Asmodeus3


If gc dogwhistles are all you’ve got in come backs, if you’re stuck and unwielding in your ideology and simplistic essentialist understanding of the human condition and can’t even answer what makes a boy a man without resulting to “but muh chromosomes” I don’t know why I’ve even bothered other than having the hope that some might question your sophistic rhetoric and wonder why such a small percentage of the population has you so triggered to start thread after thread about trans people?

*shrinking

Ala a 41% suicide rate and raising percentage of detransitioners.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Annee

I support "gender brain" -- as in your brain tells you who you are. It is a birthright.

Wrong .
Genetics determines that .

Genetics: Genetics is the study of genes, genetic variation, and heredity in organisms

And how exactly does that deny a brain wiring that tells you what gender you are?

Not physical sex organs -- but gender -- who/what you are.

No matter how you think, your brain doesn’t determine what sex you are. It may tell you what you think you “want” or “wish” to be but it doesn’t change the science behind the fact you were born either male or female. You can’t change the gender you are at birth. You can change your pronouns all day long, take all the meds, cut off parts of your body but the reality is you’re either male or female, period. To think differently is delusional.

I could identify as a chicken but science tells me differently.

If you do not follow up and address her findings and work all you did is make a logical fallacy.
This makes 2 in a row for you.
So by your standards if we want to know if pedophiles are groomed or dangerous to children, we have to only ask the pedophiles.
It is my opinion that what shapes the trans activism differently than the lgb portion of this is religion.
The trans movement is all about Astarte/Asherah.

Your attempts to discount anyone Christian or Biblically grounded as being biased and discredited kind of proves my observations.

Everyone begins with pre-suppositions.
Just because a person's morals are formed from Christian and Biblical foundations is simply not enough to be discredited.

Google is not your friend while exercising your critical thought mechanisms.
That sword you swing is double edged and swings back atcha discrediting your own opinions as biased pre-suppositions

originally posted by: AdifferentOpinion
a reply to: lostgirl

I am at the head of the list advising caution regarding the treatment of transgender youth but a few minutes looking into Dr. Susan Bradley’s background, without previously having ever heard of her, tells me she is just another conservative anti-trans crusader making the rounds trying to stay relevant. Associated with the fringe anti-LGBTx fake medical group mentioned previously, ACpeds and associate of Dr. Ken Zuker at Canada’s Clarke Institute that was shut down for practicing “reparative” (conversion) therapy.

Platformed by the Daily Caller – a partisan hardcore right-wing culture war promoting propaganda site? Why am I not surprised?

Assmodeus3 – your reply is up next

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

Your may have missed my post earlier when I said:

"By the way, I see you are a new member and so welcome to the site. I know that my threads are quite attractive and they do attract a lot of attention. And what more proof I need when a new member creates an ATS account and his/her first post is in my thread and all other posts made so far can again be found here in this thread."

Yeah so what? All I see is you weakly trying to discredit and diminish my contribution to your thread as you do with everyone that doesn’t totally agree with you because my comments don’t fit your paradigm and because I don’t roll over like the rest of your sycophants without questioning your logic. Don’t worry, I am sure I will soon be disinvited from participating here.

(insert your fallback statement here about anyone that isn’t in lock step with your beliefs is a woke gender ideologue or a trans activist. Go ahead, you know you wanna)

You don't seem to want a discussion only dominance over the conversation and not a damn things anyone has said to you in all your multiple threads attempting to dehumanize trans people and rally sentiment in your favor has helped you not sound like a broken record sanctimoniously repeating the same thing over and over thread after thread because you are right and everyone else who doesn’t agree isn’t. I do however gotta give props to all those trans people living rent free in your head. If it wasn’t so sad and pathetic, it would almost be humorous.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
By that logic...

Being gay would also need treatment.

Never thought it could be this difficult.

Uhhh Yes and no .

Gay people are just well Gay ....Being attracted to the same sex is one thing

But Trans people are effectively having an out of Body experience and feel the overwhelming need or " Pressure " to take hormones and dismantle there body.

I would see a slight difference there .

We should also point out that the overwhelming majority of Transsexuals are mentally ill to begin with and somehow end up on the road to transitioning usually hand in hand with some Doctor who assures them it's a good idea . Meaning the Doctor who is supporting there transitioning is actually Reinforcing there delusion when he knows from a medical stand point that the person is indeed mentally ill but society is ignoring this.

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Would we be even talking about this if Reagan hadn't defunded all the looney bins?

Reagan was bad news no doubt.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: lostgirl

Now that Post you made I think is how people should approach this. Yeah I think if you are under 18 you should not be able to change yourself or take hormones or anything related to it.

Great in theory.

But here's the problem. Everyone develops at their own rate.

Suppose you are a male to female transgender with Precocious Puberty. Your body starts changing to male characteristics at an early age. Females (in general) do not want male characteristics. The only way to prevent this is puberty blockers and/or hormone therapy.

I am not talking about any physical surgery.

All I wanted in 7th grade was Conan’s sword , a Hustler magazine & a PK Ripper .
I only got one of the three .