Multiple Victims Reported in Texas Mall Mass Shooting

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

Again, care to define "advanced weapons & devices"?

Or can you define an assault weapon for me?

Full auto sears , silencer’s & everything else falls under class 3 like mortars or artillery.

a reply to: Whiskermegistus

Not "everything else", there are classes that cover more than full auto, suppressors, SBR, SBS, etc.

Only answered part of the question

originally posted by: maria_stardust
a reply to: murphy22


Perhaps men simply can’t be trusted with guns.

Take away men’s ability to own guns. Let guns be owned and used by strictly women.

Men are infesting women's sports because they identify as women. If it's that easy then your plan will fail immediately. Plus a woman shot up the Covenant school in Tennessee.

originally posted by: PorkChop96

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

And guess what, all of them were done in "gun free zones". How did they even get the firearms in there?

Yet again, when you google a loaded questions, 99% of the time you are going to get the answer you want. That doesn't make it right.

Since when do criminals follow rules

Then how are more gun laws going to do any good?

When your name appears on a state list of mentally unfit for gun ownership , that would stop a vast majority of mass shootings .
No sane family member is going to sell a gun to their heavily medicated psychotic nephew , but a gun store will , because they have NO idea who or what you are. The gun background questions are useless , because who would answer yes to anything other than question number #1 .
Rules are broken by dishonesty, but lists are basically fool proof.

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

And guess what, all of them were done in "gun free zones". How did they even get the firearms in there?

Yet again, when you google a loaded questions, 99% of the time you are going to get the answer you want. That doesn't make it right.

Since when do criminals follow rules

Then how are more gun laws going to do any good?

When your name appears on a state list of mentally unfit for gun ownership , that would stop a vast majority of mass shootings .
No sane family member is going to sell a gun to their heavily medicated psychotic nephew , but a gun store will , because they have NO idea who or what you are. The gun background questions are useless , because who would answer yes to anything other than question number #1 .
Rules are broken by dishonesty, but lists are basically fool proof.

Not only do you not support the 2nd amendment but you also don't support due process.


Authoritarian tyrants....when it benefits them anyway

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

CRIMINALS committing mass shootings are the business.

Your business is you don't like them so take them all away.

If AR 15s aren’t available to the public without a federal stamp , that would stop mass casualties in these shootings.

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

CRIMINALS committing mass shootings are the business.

Your business is you don't like them so take them all away.

If AR 15s aren’t available to the public without a federal stamp , that would stop mass casualties in these shootings.

How many mass casualties were from AR-15's?

a reply to: Whiskermegistus

That goes along with red flag laws. If someone who disagrees with you calls the cops and gets your guns taken away you get put on that list. Whether you did something wrong or not.

People are always going to find a way to kill if that is what they have intent to do.

The tool maters not to someone hell bent on harming others.

Why don't you look at how many of the mass shootings were committed by someone who stole the firearm from a family member, stole it out right, or bought it illegally. How are you going to stop those?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

I will compromise with you: Every measure you levy on gun ownership has to likewise be measured on anyone registered/registering to vote.

Both are rights guaranteed in the COTUS; both should be treated *exactly* the same.

I agree that we have a right to bear arms , but mental health lists & federal stamps for high capacity rifles are not in violation of rights , but rather protects more rights than it takes away

a reply to: Whiskermegistus



LOOK AT THIS DIAGRAM ONE MORE TIME, then tell me that again with a straight face.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

And guess what, all of them were done in "gun free zones". How did they even get the firearms in there?

Yet again, when you google a loaded questions, 99% of the time you are going to get the answer you want. That doesn't make it right.

Since when do criminals follow rules

Then how are more gun laws going to do any good?

When your name appears on a state list of mentally unfit for gun ownership , that would stop a vast majority of mass shootings .
No sane family member is going to sell a gun to their heavily medicated psychotic nephew , but a gun store will , because they have NO idea who or what you are. The gun background questions are useless , because who would answer yes to anything other than question number #1 .
Rules are broken by dishonesty, but lists are basically fool proof.

Not only do you not support the 2nd amendment but you also don't support due process.


Authoritarian tyrants....when it benefits them anyway

Blah Blah Blah
Don’t you have a militia meeting to get ready for ?

a reply to: Whiskermegistus

There is no BUT, we have the right. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED means just that, you cant take that away.

You went right back to saying things that prove you know nothing on the subject matter you speak of.

I am not quite sure where the disconnect is with AR15s? Multiple sites (that google gave me) all state that hand guns are used the MOST in mass shootings.

Source 1

Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 161 different handguns being used in 111 incidents between 1982 and April 2023. These figures are calculated from a total of 142 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 78 percent of mass shootings.

National Institute of Justice

Notably, most individuals who engaged in mass shootings used handguns (77.2%), and 25.1% used assault rifles in the commission of their crimes. Of the known mass shooting cases (32.5% of cases could not be confirmed), 77% of those who engaged in mass shootings purchased at least some of their guns legally, while illegal purchases were made by 13% of those committing mass shootings. In cases involving K-12 school shootings, over 80% of individuals who engaged in shootings stole guns from family members.

As a side note silencers are not considered class 3 in most states.

You do not need a Class 3 license to buy a silencer or other Title II firearm unless you are a dealer and wanting to purchase them for resale. If your documents do not use the correct terms, the people who wrote them may not understand the NFA, ATF and issues relating to the purchase, possession, transfer, and use of Title II firearms.

Source

2. Which states allow silencer ownership? The following states allow private ownership of silencers: AL, AR, AK, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, IA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MI, MN, MO, MS, MT, ND, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT*, WA, WI, WV and WY. *The use of suppressors for hunting goes into effect July 1st, 2020. Of the remaining states; CA may allow silencer ownership for people in possession of a valid FFL.

3. Do I need a special license to own a silencer? No! There are some rumors that you need to have a “Class 3” license to own a silencer; but, this simply isn’t true. You do have to pay for a “tax stamp” when you first buy the suppressor – but there are no ongoing fees or licenses required. This tax is similar to paying sales tax on a purchase, except that it goes to the federal instead of the state government.

Source

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

CRIMINALS committing mass shootings are the business.

Your business is you don't like them so take them all away.

If AR 15s aren’t available to the public without a federal stamp , that would stop mass casualties in these shootings.

How many mass casualties were from AR-15's?

The top 10 out of the top 17 most deadly mass shootings since 2012 have been done with AR15s.
The Republicans shot themselves in the foot for years over the Roe v Wade ruling & soon will find that their massive unpopularity over said ruling will find them outside of Washington & losing the AR15 to history.
Enjoy your army toy now , because it’s days are numbered.
Regular gun owners in America are tired of the AR 15 & it’s tacticool crowd .
Only 16 million people in America own AR15s , but they own multiple & that is the delusion of it’s popularity.
Thats 1 in 20 people with at least an one AR15 & that is far far from popular when compared to bolt actions & shotgun owners of America .
Im a gun owner who is sick & tired of the radical AR15 crowd destroying our 2A for a useless civilian gun.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

Not "everything else", there are classes that cover more than full auto, suppressors, SBR, SBS, etc.

Only answered part of the question

Short barrel laws are idiotic

a reply to: Whiskermegistus

So then a short barrel AR is okay, but a regular one is bad? Your logic baffles me

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

CRIMINALS committing mass shootings are the business.

Your business is you don't like them so take them all away.

If AR 15s aren’t available to the public without a federal stamp , that would stop mass casualties in these shootings.

How many mass casualties were from AR-15's?

The top 10 out of the top 17 most deadly mass shootings since 2012 have been done with AR15s.
The Republicans shot themselves in the foot for years over the Roe v Wade ruling & soon will find that their massive unpopularity over said ruling will find them outside of Washington & losing the AR15 to history.
Enjoy your army toy now , because it’s days are numbered.
Regular gun owners in America are tired of the AR 15 & it’s tacticool crowd .
Only 16 million people in America own AR15s , but they own multiple & that is the delusion of it’s popularity.
Thats 1 in 20 people with at least an one AR15 & that is far far from popular when compared to bolt actions & shotgun owners of America .
Im a gun owner who is sick & tired of the radical AR15 crowd destroying our 2A for a useless civilian gun.

You keep spewing the same garbage. Show your work or admit you're FOS.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

LOOK AT THIS DIAGRAM ONE MORE TIME, then tell me that again with a straight face.

Yes the chart is correct probably , but it doesn’t mention the death tolls per gun & that is were you lose this argument all day long .

a reply to: Whiskermegistus

"Most Deadly" "Most Deadly" " Most Deadly" That does not show the full statistics. You are going into a casino with loaded dice and you think you are coming up the winner.

If you were to look up the most deadly drunk driving crashes, you would see only the most deadly drunk driving incidents.

You are the only one who has made this "argument" about death tolls. That is your only leg, and you can't even prove it without broken links and just a "trust me, I know I'm right" attitude

There is no probably, the chart is accurate and as previously stated, your link (that didn't work) was written by those of questionable knowledge on subject matter they know nothing about.

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96

originally posted by: Whiskermegistus

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Whiskermegistus

And guess what, all of them were done in "gun free zones". How did they even get the firearms in there?

Yet again, when you google a loaded questions, 99% of the time you are going to get the answer you want. That doesn't make it right.

Since when do criminals follow rules

Then how are more gun laws going to do any good?

When your name appears on a state list of mentally unfit for gun ownership , that would stop a vast majority of mass shootings .
No sane family member is going to sell a gun to their heavily medicated psychotic nephew , but a gun store will , because they have NO idea who or what you are. The gun background questions are useless , because who would answer yes to anything other than question number #1 .
Rules are broken by dishonesty, but lists are basically fool proof.

Not only do you not support the 2nd amendment but you also don't support due process.


Authoritarian tyrants....when it benefits them anyway

Blah Blah Blah
Don’t you have a militia meeting to get ready for ?

Youre every bit militia as I am.

Isnt the Constitution wonderful?