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originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Which was blatantly stupid as the Flu and CV are oranges and bananas, rather than apples and oranges.
As scientists we put up hypotheses and test them using experiments. If a hypothesis is proven to be true according to current knowledge it might still change over time when new evidence comes to light. Hence, sharing and accumulating knowledge is the most important part of science. The question arises when and why this process of science has been changed. No discussion of new knowledge disputing the safety of the COVID-19 vaccines is allowed. Who gave bureaucrats the means to destroy the fundaments of science and tell scientists not to argue the science?
originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Omg guys I really don't know how not a single person here has figured this out.
It is literally staring you in the face man.
From like freaking day 1 of warp speed it was right TF there.
originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Are you desperate to prove me wrong about something even though I agree that mRNA vaccines are unproven and dangerous? I reply to a post about Spanish Flu and you retort about Russian Flu from the late 1800’s…which was indeed different than Russian Flu from the 1970’s-1980’s that was later named Swine Flu.
It was at that time 1800’s - late 1900’s to name everything a flu with a place name of likely origin. Which was why the Wu Flu and Wu Han Flu caught on for Covid 19 which was and is SARS2.
originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: Asmodeus3
It's, as you wrote, a bombshell publication. Will take my time going through this. Thanks for posting.
originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Asmodeus3
The J&J shot seemed to be the standard, give the body a dead virus to figure it out on its own how to fight it. Sounds safe enough as we have done that for about 200 years now.
The Brownstone Institute has established the most updated and
comprehensive library list of 150 of the highest-quality, complete,
and robust scientific studies and evidence reports/position
statements on natural immunity as compared to the COVID-19
vaccine-induced immunity. The consensus of these studies is that
immunity induced by COVIDinfection is robust and long lasting.
When comparing the immune response to vaccination andnatural infection, differences in the responses were detected. For example, a strong upregulation of genes associated with type I
interferon production, cytotoxicity and an increase in circulating plasmablasts were only observed after natural infections [24]. In contrast, mRNA vaccines seem to suppress interferon responses
[25]. A literature review by Cardozo and Veazev [26] concluded that COVID-19 vaccines could potentially worsen COVID-19 disease through antibody-dependent enhancement when natural infection occurs after vaccination, regardless of the delivery
mechanism - vector or LNP containing RNA – of the nucleic acid coding for the spike protein
A worldwide Bayesian causal Impact analysis suggests that COVID-19 gene therapy (mRNA vaccine) causes more COVID-19 cases per million and more non-Covid deaths per million than are associated with COVID-19 [43].
An abundance of studies has shown that the mRNA vaccines are neither safe nor effective, but outright dangerous.
1)COVID-19 vaccines cause more side effects than any other vaccine
2) Not only does spike protein produce unwanted side effects, but mRNA and nanoparticles do as well.
3) Never in vaccine history have we seen 1011 case studies showing side effects of a vaccine (www.saveusnow.org.uk...).
4) Again, it is inconceivable why it would be impossible to go through the study data in a few months, when it took the CDC less than 4 weeks to give the injections emergency use authorization – unless you want to entertain the idea that the study data were never actually read and scrutinised, a frightening perspective.
5) The official public message is that the mRNA vaccines are safe. However, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), the medicine and therapeutic regulatory agency of the Australian Government, states quite clearly on their website that the large-scale trials are still progressing and no full data package has been received from any company.
originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Itisnowagain
J&J wasn’t an mRNA vaccine. Also you don’t see them pushing it nor running a new batch for every mutation to strain.
So did the J&J work, not work or simply was cancel cultured for not being the clot shot that Pfizer and Moderna were? Also, Moderna’s only product was this shot…and if that didn’t set off alarm bells then people got what they deserved by being gullible.
Johnson & Johnson Vaccinations Paused After Rare Clotting Cases Emerge
Federal health officials called for a halt in the use of the company’s coronavirus vaccine while they study serious illnesses that developed in six American women.
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Well was it a failure? , it depends on what it was designed to do. Here Stew Peters interviews a scientist that set up a mobile clinic to test the hearts of concerned citizens, the myocarditis rate was around 53% in those tested with an accuracy rate of around ninety percent. www.bitchute.com...
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: Asmodeus3
I would never walk out. They would have to fire me.
But I have no issues with my job. My job and my co-workers, even the lawyers fought for me.
The problem I had was with the vendors, but they came around soon enough.
originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: tanstaafl
Polio and Small Pox might want a word or two.
Although, both could come back in a big way. If either got a foothold. Those vaxes worked herd immunity by leaving nowhere for them to go so they died out.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: tanstaafl
Polio and Small Pox might want a word or two.
Nah, they'd only be regurgitating the same old propaganda that has always been used to scare people into getting their jabs. Of course, there is almost always some truth mixed in with the lies, but I've researched it enough to know that there is far more to the real story for all of their jabs.
But I'll just leave it at that, since neither one of us is likely to convince the other.
As with any other jab though, we'll just takes our chances, and if I or a loved one gets something like this in the wild, I'll just cure it using the big guns in my arsenal - starting with high does IV vitamin C (already well demonstrated to cure Polio and Smallpox, among virtually anything else they've tried it on), and enjoy the lifelong immunity that comes as a result of a natural infection, vs 2-5 years of partial 'immunity' from the jabs - along with the 1 in a million chance of dying from the jab (almost certainly higher, but that is what they admit to) or getting serious heart complications (more than 1-%, so a much much higher risk for heart problems).
Although, both could come back in a big way. If either got a foothold. Those vaxes worked herd immunity by leaving nowhere for them to go so they died out.
Yes, that is the claim. Of course, if they ever do come back, they'll provide you a new and improved mRNA version of their jabs, and again, we'll politely (or otherwise) decline, allowing others to be their guinea pigs, choosing man over their own god-given natural immunity and intelligently applied natural therapies/treatments/cures.