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originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
What qualifications or evidence do have for arguing they are dangerous.
First of all the burned of proof is to those who claim they are safe and effective. So it's all yours by the way.
What are the short, medium, and long term effects of these products. Do you know them? As you have called them safe and effective.
How can you establish safety and effectiveness if you don't know them or you don't know the benefit to risk ratio for all age groups.
I wonder.
In terms of the harms I have recorded plenty in my threads. Deaths caused by vaccines and serious adverse reactions. So they could be potentially dangerous.
There is plenty evidence for both safety and effectiveness.
It's possibly the most researched vaccine in history.
Wrong .
Its the most Massive FDA Drug trial in the history of humanity , that is that we know of.
But prior to it's emergency release the vaccine was the most under researched Vaccine in history.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
What qualifications or evidence do have for arguing they are dangerous.
First of all the burned of proof is to those who claim they are safe and effective. So it's all yours by the way.
What are the short, medium, and long term effects of these products. Do you know them? As you have called them safe and effective.
How can you establish safety and effectiveness if you don't know them or you don't know the benefit to risk ratio for all age groups.
I wonder.
In terms of the harms I have recorded plenty in my threads. Deaths caused by vaccines and serious adverse reactions. So they could be potentially dangerous.
There is plenty evidence for both safety and effectiveness.
It's possibly the most researched vaccine in history.
Wrong .
Its the most Massive FDA Drug trial in the history of humanity , that is that we know of.
But prior to it's emergency release the vaccine was the most under researched Vaccine in history.
If only there was a world outside the US.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
What qualifications or evidence do have for arguing they are dangerous.
First of all the burned of proof is to those who claim they are safe and effective. So it's all yours by the way.
What are the short, medium, and long term effects of these products. Do you know them? As you have called them safe and effective.
How can you establish safety and effectiveness if you don't know them or you don't know the benefit to risk ratio for all age groups.
I wonder.
In terms of the harms I have recorded plenty in my threads. Deaths caused by vaccines and serious adverse reactions. So they could be potentially dangerous.
There is plenty evidence for both safety and effectiveness.
It's possibly the most researched vaccine in history.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
You are the one who keeps telling people to stop posting opinions different from yours.
On a discussion forum...
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: tanstaafl
Yes your opinion.
originally posted by: paraphi
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
The reason given was better effectiveness achieved from the mRNA products but we know that the AZ vaccine did cause a lot of deaths, mainly blood clots that subsequently were fatal.
So the US FDA is pulling the AZ vaccine from emergency use because it's no longer effective against prevailing strains of C19. The UK has stopped using the AZ vaccine because it's no longer effective, for the same reason.
According to the publicly available statistics, around 400 cases of blood clotting was reported, of which c. 70 people died. A smaller number of clots for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, and none reported for the Pfizer vaccine. Approaching 50 million doses of the AZ vaccine were given.
If you have anything apart from anecdotes to suggest "lots of deaths" then can you point me to your official sources?
originally posted by: jidnum
originally posted by: paraphi
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
The reason given was better effectiveness achieved from the mRNA products but we know that the AZ vaccine did cause a lot of deaths, mainly blood clots that subsequently were fatal.
So the US FDA is pulling the AZ vaccine from emergency use because it's no longer effective against prevailing strains of C19. The UK has stopped using the AZ vaccine because it's no longer effective, for the same reason.
According to the publicly available statistics, around 400 cases of blood clotting was reported, of which c. 70 people died. A smaller number of clots for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, and none reported for the Pfizer vaccine. Approaching 50 million doses of the AZ vaccine were given.
If you have anything apart from anecdotes to suggest "lots of deaths" then can you point me to your official sources?
you just spouted off a bunch of numbers demanding sources without giving sources of your own spout.