Crisis - Norway Funeral Homes Overwhelmed With The Dead

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

Have you read the thread now?
Did you go to yt and watch the video yet?

Sure and?

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

No you are mistaken for once more.
The figure was presented independently by Dr Campbell but if you have seen my thread I got the figure from a peer-reviewed scientific publication which was also linked by Dr Campbell.

Not only the 1 per 800, but many of your statistics are also directly out of his video. You are really full of it...

Look, All I asked was whether it came from a video with zero opinion on videos in general. Since it wasn't searchable that was my next best guess. YOU WERE THE ONE to attack me about even implying someone of your stature would dare get something from a video and it seems you get most of your points from Dr Campbell's videos, so I'm not the one creating this mess you jumped two feet into. In the end I don't really care other than it shows just how much full of it you really are while all the time attacking me in the process.

You are still in a denial by the way and why don't you read my thread? You will see from where I got the figure. But that's besides the point.

You are still engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality.

I didn't know you made a thread, and it seems you kind of made it in response to me asking. BTW what am I actually denying here since that is another repeating quote from you in every post.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

You can have a look around.
You should be having a look around as there are many more threads in the same forum: Diseases and Pandemics. Do you think I will link everything??
All you have to do is just look up at the threads.

That is a horrible reply. I asked you 3 times... 3 times you could have just said here look at my post and you didn't. You then attacked me on my math level and daring to suggest you got anything from a video when you pretty much get everything from videos...lol geez. You felt the need to create an OP, but didn't have the effort THE SAME DAY to link it to me????

OK, NP

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

I am not in fear. I have had a full set of the vaccines that you fear,

Were you scared that you would catch something?

At the time I took my initial COVID vaccines, there were no community cases in New Zealand, but I anticipated that it would eventually spread from other countries.

I also have flu shots and take precautions when driving. It doesn't mean I actively fear those things. Taking simple precautions does not mean I am in a state of fear, but in practice, it is quite the opposite.

Being a denialist, however, does absolutely nothing to reduce risk. I can only assume that such denial must have a strong psychological basis.

Definitely, the word is part of the lingo used frequently by anti-vaxxers, and rarely by those promoting vaccinations.

New Zealand, that explained it. You've already been converted to a true believer by the WEF. Vaccines are health and no one cares about diet, exercise or vitamin D.

You act a lot like Hotez who Rogan recently exposed. Funny how unvaccinated Rogan handled covid so well when people were telling him to get vaccinated.

Also, it's not a "vaccine," so people who don't want to be forced to take experimental gene therapy aren't "anti vaxx." It sounds like you are anti freedom and pro Pfizer, pro WEF, pro establishment, pro slavery.

www.reddit.com...

You have no direct knowledge about New Zealand except what you read on propagandist 'alternate truth' websites and in dodgy videos.



The WEF is a conference organization based in Europe. New Zealand is on the other side of the planet from both Europe, and also the USA.

Also, our politicians, like politicians around the world, concentrate on local issues more fully than any 'overseas' stuff.

Additionally, it could be argued that New Zealand leads, and does not follow trends in governance from around the world. I mean, how many female US Presidents have there been? Or how many people of color (a full quarter of US population. Are they represented fairly)? How many First Nation US Presidents?

LOL. As a country, the US doesn't even stand by its own constitutional dictates. How corrupted and disingenuous is that?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

No you are mistaken for once more.
The figure was presented independently by Dr Campbell but if you have seen my thread I got the figure from a peer-reviewed scientific publication which was also linked by Dr Campbell.

Not only the 1 per 800, but many of your statistics are also directly out of his video. You are really full of it...

Look, All I asked was whether it came from a video with zero opinion on videos in general. Since it wasn't searchable that was my next best guess. YOU WERE THE ONE to attack me about even implying someone of your stature would dare get something from a video and it seems you get most of your points from Dr Campbell's videos, so I'm not the one creating this mess you jumped two feet into. In the end I don't really care other than it shows just how much full of it you really are while all the time attacking me in the process.

You are still in a denial by the way and why don't you read my thread? You will see from where I got the figure. But that's besides the point.

You are still engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality.

I didn't know you made a thread, and it seems you kind of made it in response to me asking. BTW what am I actually denying here since that is another repeating quote from you in every post.

Let me repeat.

No you are mistaken for once more.
The figure was presented independently by Dr Campbell but if you have seen my thread I got the figure from a peer-reviewed scientific publication which was also linked by Dr Campbell.

If you didn't know that I have made a thread then you could have taken a look when I told you. I have created a series of threads and most of them are not related to the videos made by Dr Campbell as they discuss actual cases of people who have been injured by the vaccines or died from them. Dr Campbell cannot speak easily about them as he will be censored on YouTube.

Again, if you take a look at my thread you can see that it relies on a peer reviewed publication as do menu other of my threads. I also acknowledge Dr Campbell and have linked his video. But that's besides the point as him and me are right in regards to the rate of severe adverse reactions. The crippled vaccines must be re-evaluated due to the benefit to risk/harm ratio.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

You can have a look around.
You should be having a look around as there are many more threads in the same forum: Diseases and Pandemics. Do you think I will link everything??
All you have to do is just look up at the threads.

That is a horrible reply. I asked you 3 times... 3 times you could have just said here look at my post and you didn't. You then attacked me on my math level and daring to suggest you got anything from a video when you pretty much get everything from videos...lol geez. You felt the need to create an OP, but didn't have the effort THE SAME DAY to link it to me????

OK, NP

Don't worry. Just take a look around and find for yourself. There is no need to engage in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality. There are servers threads around by the way but in many of them there is very little participation from those who try to defend the vaccines and the pharmaceutical companies as the evidence is so overwhelming that they can't really defend the indefensible.

a reply to: Xtrozero
a reply to: chr0naut


In terms of crippled vaccines



Known for a long period of time but it's worth revisiting as there must be a re-evaluation of the benefit to risk/harm ratios with all the vaccines used and especially the mRNA vaccines that are being used extensively.


03/05/2021

www.france24.com...

Denmark said on Monday it would not include the Covid-19 vaccine from US drugmaker Johnson & Johnson in its national vaccination campaign, citing worries over serious side effects involving blood clots.


The Danish Health Authority has concluded that the benefits of using the Covid-19 vaccine from Johnson & Johnson do not outweigh the risk of causing the possible adverse effect... in those who receive the vaccine," the authority said in a statement.

"Therefore, the Danish Health Authority will continue the Danish mass vaccination programme against Covid-19 without the Covid-19 vaccine from Johnson & Johnson," it added.

So the Danish Authorities were honest enough to state the obvious i.e that the benefits from the J&J vaccine do not outweigh the risks. But if the Danish scientists were honest enough then nothing prevents everyone else to do the same thing: Withdraw the J&J vaccine from the market completely. They have also withdrew the Astrazeneca vaccine from Denmark for the same reasons.

a reply to: Asmodeus3
Check out
'Why are healthy people dying suddenly since 2021?/ w Ed Dowd' on yt.....posted yesterday.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You see, in these threads unless there is a coroner report or a report from a medical examiner everything else is branded as 'doom porn' by the few vaccine apologists and denialists of reality. Of course most people don't share their view and especially here there is a clear majority. Most members do accept there is a strong association between the vax and the various problems that have arisen post vaccination.

as i said i had an injury so it's been very important for me to understand what this means for me personally in the real world (i have 3 boys).. all the more important with the doom that we'll all be dead soon from it.. thats why after a 10 year break from ats I came back..

based on what I've read and my pervious jobs (process reengineering, supranational entities, healthcare, O&G, central banks, aviation) I have come to my own conclusions as to what is happening.. personal peace of mind.

firstly look at the age group of the biggest supporters of the vax...the ultra rich elderly and the look at the treatments we are getting confirmed, they all seem targeted to fix the issues of said elderly, strokes, dementia, heart disease, cancer etc these are all the things they are interested in treating not what impacts the 50s and under 50s, so using the mrna to deliver angina medication to rejuvenate heart is not in the young but elderly suffering from heart disease, that the on point message..

and thats why the health service has had zero interest in my recovery.. its simply not relevant.

historically this is about the mega rich elderly doing what they always try to do which is try to live forever and why none of them can take a step back from center stage and why we repeat all the same errors as the same elderly minds keep repeating what they know even if they keep failing now..

as with any gothic horror novel the truth will out as the unintended consequences of focusing on that one mission bears unintended fruit. the real issues with attempting to live forever is the same people make the same mistakes over and over as they no longer learn from their mistakes..

That is until the human mind can be understood, and here i see their biggest mistake, its in not trying to understand how those like me are recovering, how our minds rewire and relearn.. until they do that they'll be trapped in a nightmare of their own making..

from here I've come to the conclusion, not that I'll live to at least 75 as i was taught in school, but that I'll live perhaps to 125, which gives me another 75 years to face, I've talked this though with my FIL who is in his 80s and he's horrified at the idea of another 40+ years, but then given what has happened in the first 50 of mine where we'll be in 75 years???????

in the denialists I'm sure there'll be those secretly longing to live forever too, so are happy to see it all continue but are also failing to see it's become a Frankenstein's monster.. they also miss the mob quietly getting their pitchforks ready..

being a realist the pitchforks won't come out as like the medical experiments in the camps and the the asylums no one starts tossing out such knowledge. that doesn't mean change is not coming as it is.. as the elderly in power are locked into making the same mistakes, the West are not a single entity under the us president, Russia is not the soviet block and china/India are not going to be a mini me America's for it to control.. the longer we keep making the same mistakes the bigger the divergence will be when it hits..

currently we're the titanic holed below the waterline and sinking but all the denialists are doing is moving the chairs closer to the orchestra rather than the lifeboats and its why I no longer engage with them online as they'll not escape the coming of the wet feet..

a reply to: nickyw

From one human being to another...

I'm sorry you were injured by the sociopathy of callous rich bastards and their machinations of world dominance.

It sounds like a neurological injury?? Sorry I didn't see the details.

Look into the neuro-reparative benefits of Quercetin. When I was researching natural anti-viral compounds and Phyto nutrients prior to Covid making it to the shores of the U.S., I found a tremendous amount of positive information about Quercetin pertaining to anti-viral qualities, but also that it has shown some rather surprising abilities in neural regeneration.

I have them all bookmarked on my computer at home if you are interested, I could message you the links.

a reply to: MaxxAction

thanks for the info I'll certainly follow up as to my situation I was unfortunate enough to have had pf4 clot/stroke post 2nd dose of az (platelet factor 4 auto immune response) on the plus side it has changed my life for the better.. though reading plenty of coroner court reports many where not as lucky.

As a techie I've documented the whole journey the daily selfies when converted into gifs I can see how the paralysed muscles started to engage as my face became symmetrical again.. while I still hear some aphasia that just seems to be my concern in my head.

I always promised myself I'd write a book documenting my process reengineering methodology as a few corps use it, that has now expanded to writing one of this journey but after 3 months I looked back on my notes and it read like a grift which really made me uncomfortable, the thing is I kept seeing archangels on the wards, Gabriel/Michael etc..so for a while I thought I'd lost my sanity as the last thing you want to do is see angels on high dependency wards

so I'm now reframing it all as I'm going back to when I left school I took a long arc into technology and I've now decided to restart that over again as this is a second go at life as a big arc of coding in the 80s to coding today..

so again thanks for the info..

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

Let me repeat.

No you are mistaken for once more.
The figure was presented independently by Dr Campbell but if you have seen my thread I got the figure from a peer-reviewed scientific publication which was also linked by Dr Campbell.

Come on stop it, as I said I don't really care. I just find it funny how you went to such great lengths to slam me to even suggest you got info from a video and you actually did. The reason why I asked in the first place is that a scientific publication would not list it as 1 per 800 and would stick to the typical 12.5 per 10,000, or even 125 per 100,000. Dr. Cambell was the one to converted it to 1 per 800 in his video to maybe sound more interesting to his audience TDK. Dr. Cambell has been your mentor in all this and much of what you post is pulled out of his videos.

Just say it and we can move on...

a reply to: Xtrozero
With further research .....
I found '1 in 800' was originally mentioned in the substack article (in the link provided on the yt page).

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

In terms of crippled vaccines

Known for a long period of time but it's worth revisiting as there must be a re-evaluation of the benefit to risk/harm ratios with all the vaccines used and especially the mRNA vaccines that are being used extensively.

We understand the risk/harm ratios and have many times posted on it, so let me refresh your memory to what I have said maybe 2 dozen times now.

We need to evaluate the risk of the vaccine to the risk of the virus. If the virus is low risk to an age group, then they most likely do not need the vaccine. We do not want to inject the risk of Myocarditis in younger men even if the risk is rare if there is little risk to that age group from the virus. Zero risk is better than little....

I am vaccine hesitant for anyone under the age of 40 and is healthy. I am 100% against any kind of mandate period, so in a better situation I would have liked to have seen the very old and high risk get the vaccine and then EVERYONE else make their own decisions. If that was the way our stupid liberal Government did it, we would not be having these conversations today.

Were we branch off is when you take Dr Campell's suggestion that 1 per 100,000 serious reactions is too much and so anything like that should be removed. and if that was the case EVERY drug known to man to include aspirin would be removed. His examples are misleading in suggesting something like 1 per 100,000 was the reason for the removal and it wasn't as I have explained in another post.

You and he are also trying to apply the phase 3 trials results to the real world, and it just doesn't fit, and so we need to start to look at the real time data coming in and do real world numbers for what is being seen and we get very low ones for the more serious adverse events we been talking about for a while now that is typically x per million.

Real World Data

You can play it all off as the Government and companies are lying to cover up, but you are also using Government and company data when it fits your narrative too, so what you say doesn't make much sense. Another reason why your logic doesn't make any sense is because, as I have said many times, this isn't about one Government or one or two companies. We are talking dozens of countries and companies from around the world, so ether they are all in on this together or you are wrong.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Were we branch off is when you take Dr Campell's suggestion that 1 per 100,000 serious reactions is too much and so anything like that should be removed.

What happened to '12.5 per 10,000'?
Or alternatively the figure you don't like but is the same '1 per 800'?

1 in 800 is vastly different to 1 per 100,000.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Xtrozero
With further research .....
I found '1 in 800' was originally mentioned in the substack article (in the link provided on the yt page).

Yeah, I can't find it, but it was listed a number of times in the first minute of the video, and Asmodeus3 has used other data directly from the video too now that I watched the video and can compare. MY only point was Asmodeus3 slammed me in a good number of posts over and over for even suggesting they got data from any video, and they actually did. I'm not even suggesting the data is incorrect either.

Here is something interesting and why we don't apply trials data to the real world when we have 13 billion shots and 2 years of real-world use to collect data from, such as this below from the CDC dec 21 2022 looking at myocarditis in 350 million shots in these age groups.

CDC

12–15 years (70.7 cases per one million doses of Pfizer-BioNTech)
16–17 years (105.9 cases per one million doses of Pfizer-BioNTech)
18–24 years (52.4 cases and 56.3 cases per million doses of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, respectively)

This is from the trials data for myocarditis in Asmodeus3 post

Moderna: vaccine 4 and the placebo 5. So, the Moderna showed no significant changes while follow-on data above shows there is actually some risk. In fact, maybe we should have all young males take the Moderna vaccine to lower their risk of myocarditis!!! Sounds like a stupid idea doesn't it, but using 12.5 per 10,000 from the trials somehow makes sense?

Pfizer: vaccine 2, placebo 1, Once again how do you compare that to the real world. In the end they do some real fuzzy math to get their overall results of 12.5 per 10,000 that they use in the studies.

I'll go with real world data from 350 million shots in the age groups above. You, Asmodeus3 and others may not agree with me and decide to cling to trails data and Dr. Cambell opinions, but that is OK. No need for some here to use personal attacks on me just because we disagree in some areas.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

What happened to '12.5 per 10,000'?
Or alternatively the figure you don't like but is the same '1 per 800'?

1 in 800 is vastly different to 1 per 100,000.

Sure, and I explained it above... to use trials data because it just happens to fit a narrative and ignore real world data of 13 billion shots is just as bad to suggest 1 in 100,000 is a reason to get rid of any drug that fall into that range.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Ya, I can't find it, but it was listed a number of times in the first minute of the video, and yt has used other data directly from the video too now that I watched the video and can compare. MY only point was yt slammed me in a good number of posts over and over for even suggesting they got data from any video, and they actually did. I'm not even suggesting the data is incorrect either.

I am having real difficulty understanding what you have written here.

'yt slammed you'??? What's that?


You can't find what?
Is it the substack link/article that you can't find?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

You can't find what?
Is it the substack link you can't find?

Corrected the post, yes where is the 1 per 800? Not that I really care anymore as I posted.

a reply to: Xtrozero
'1 per 800' is not just on John Campbells video it's in the substack article...