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originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Down the bottom you will see sources.
Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.
Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No
They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.
More false claims from you.
so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?
On average less likely to catch it.
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.
Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No
They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.
More false claims from you.
so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?
On average less likely to catch it.
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Down the bottom you will see sources.
Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?
You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?
Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Down the bottom you will see sources.
Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?
You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?
Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?
Still more sources than you have provided.
Funny that.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.
Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No
They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.
More false claims from you.
so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?
On average less likely to catch it.
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
Based on your opinion?
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.
Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No
They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.
More false claims from you.
so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?
On average less likely to catch it.
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
Based on your opinion?
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.
Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No
They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.
More false claims from you.
so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?
On average less likely to catch it.
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
Based on your opinion?
Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.
Uk data can be found here.
www.gov.uk...
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Down the bottom you will see sources.
Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?
You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?
Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?
Still more sources than you have provided.
Funny that.
This isn't a link you can rely on but a opinion piece by an Arts graduate.
Your links say nothing by the way.
I have provided several links over several threads do this is another false claim and an attempt to deflect from the conversation.
Do you know that medium and long term effects?
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.
Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No
They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.
More false claims from you.
so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?
On average less likely to catch it.
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
Based on your opinion?
Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.
Uk data can be found here.
www.gov.uk...
This is a government website that is peddling a narrative. We need solid proof and not politics or science blended with politics.
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.
Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No
They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.
More false claims from you.
so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?
On average less likely to catch it.
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
Based on your opinion?
Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.
Uk data can be found here.
www.gov.uk...
This is a government website that is peddling a narrative. We need solid proof and not politics or science blended with politics.
Which links to multiple studies.
As opposed to your anonymous unsupported claims on a conspiracy site.
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot
I'm still really curious as to how the metric of
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
can be measured. If everyone got the same strain, it would be easy. they don't. If everyone reacted the same way to getting Covid, it would be easy, they don't.
I got covid, took Ivermectin, and felt better the next day. Does that mean Ivermectin cures covid?
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Down the bottom you will see sources.
Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?
You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?
Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?
Still more sources than you have provided.
Funny that.
This isn't a link you can rely on but a opinion piece by an Arts graduate.
Your links say nothing by the way.
I have provided several links over several threads do this is another false claim and an attempt to deflect from the conversation.
Do you know that medium and long term effects?
Link for your claim about transmission testing being required.
I have asked repeatedly snd you still haven't provided one. Probably because you made it up.
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.
Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No
They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.
More false claims from you.
so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?
On average less likely to catch it.
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
Based on your opinion?
Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.
Uk data can be found here.
www.gov.uk...
This is a government website that is peddling a narrative. We need solid proof and not politics or science blended with politics.
Which links to multiple studies.
As opposed to your anonymous unsupported claims on a conspiracy site.
It leads to nothing more than some studies that support the narrative and the disinformation campaign.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot
I'm still really curious as to how the metric of
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
can be measured. If everyone got the same strain, it would be easy. they don't. If everyone reacted the same way to getting Covid, it would be easy, they don't.
I got covid, took Ivermectin, and felt better the next day. Does that mean Ivermectin cures covid?
I reasonably certain that you are smart enough to understand how averages work.
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Down the bottom you will see sources.
Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?
You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?
Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?
Still more sources than you have provided.
Funny that.
This isn't a link you can rely on but a opinion piece by an Arts graduate.
Your links say nothing by the way.
I have provided several links over several threads do this is another false claim and an attempt to deflect from the conversation.
Do you know that medium and long term effects?
Link for your claim about transmission testing being required.
I have asked repeatedly snd you still haven't provided one. Probably because you made it up.
Pfizer didn't test for transmission. They have admitted it. So there isn't any link for it. You are getting your arguments confused.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.
Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.
Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No
They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.
More false claims from you.
so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?
On average less likely to catch it.
On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.
Based on your opinion?
Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.
Uk data can be found here.
www.gov.uk...
This is a government website that is peddling a narrative. We need solid proof and not politics or science blended with politics.
Which links to multiple studies.
As opposed to your anonymous unsupported claims on a conspiracy site.
It leads to nothing more than some studies that support the narrative and the disinformation campaign.
As I said earlier, no point in providing you with sources as you won't accept anything that contradicts your view.
Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.