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posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Down the bottom you will see sources.

Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?



You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?

Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.

Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No


They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.

More false claims from you.


so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?


On average less likely to catch it.

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

Based on your opinion?



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.

Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No


They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.

More false claims from you.


so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?


On average less likely to catch it.

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.


You need solid proof for these claims.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Down the bottom you will see sources.

Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?



You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?

Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?


Still more sources than you have provided.

Funny that.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Down the bottom you will see sources.

Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?



You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?

Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?


Still more sources than you have provided.

Funny that.


This isn't a link you can rely on but a opinion piece by an Arts graduate.

Your links say nothing by the way.
I have provided several links over several threads do this is another false claim and an attempt to deflect from the conversation.

Do you know that medium and long term effects?



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.

Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No


They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.

More false claims from you.


so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?


On average less likely to catch it.

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

Based on your opinion?


Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.

Uk data can be found here.

www.gov.uk...



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.

Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No


They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.

More false claims from you.


so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?


On average less likely to catch it.

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

Based on your opinion?


The answer is yes. Based on his unsubstantiated opinions.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.

Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No


They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.

More false claims from you.


so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?


On average less likely to catch it.

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

Based on your opinion?


Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.

Uk data can be found here.

www.gov.uk...



This is a government website that is peddling a narrative. We need solid proof and not politics or science blended with politics.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Down the bottom you will see sources.

Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?



You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?

Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?


Still more sources than you have provided.

Funny that.


This isn't a link you can rely on but a opinion piece by an Arts graduate.

Your links say nothing by the way.
I have provided several links over several threads do this is another false claim and an attempt to deflect from the conversation.

Do you know that medium and long term effects?



Link for your claim about transmission testing being required.

I have asked repeatedly snd you still haven't provided one. Probably because you made it up.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

I'm still really curious as to how the metric of

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

can be measured. If everyone got the same strain, it would be easy. they don't. If everyone reacted the same way to getting Covid, it would be easy, they don't.

I got covid, took Ivermectin, and felt better the next day. Does that mean Ivermectin cures covid?



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.

Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No


They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.

More false claims from you.


so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?


On average less likely to catch it.

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

Based on your opinion?


Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.

Uk data can be found here.

www.gov.uk...



This is a government website that is peddling a narrative. We need solid proof and not politics or science blended with politics.


Which links to multiple studies.

As opposed to your anonymous unsupported claims on a conspiracy site.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which parts of the Phase3 clinical trials have been successfully completed?

There is nothing there just reassurances and anyone who claims officially they have done so then they are making false and fraudulent claims.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.

Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No


They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.

More false claims from you.


so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?


On average less likely to catch it.

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

Based on your opinion?


Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.

Uk data can be found here.

www.gov.uk...



This is a government website that is peddling a narrative. We need solid proof and not politics or science blended with politics.


Which links to multiple studies.

As opposed to your anonymous unsupported claims on a conspiracy site.


It leads to nothing more than some studies that support the narrative and the disinformation campaign.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot

I'm still really curious as to how the metric of

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

can be measured. If everyone got the same strain, it would be easy. they don't. If everyone reacted the same way to getting Covid, it would be easy, they don't.

I got covid, took Ivermectin, and felt better the next day. Does that mean Ivermectin cures covid?


I reasonably certain that you are smart enough to understand how averages work.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Down the bottom you will see sources.

Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?



You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?

Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?


Still more sources than you have provided.

Funny that.


This isn't a link you can rely on but a opinion piece by an Arts graduate.

Your links say nothing by the way.
I have provided several links over several threads do this is another false claim and an attempt to deflect from the conversation.

Do you know that medium and long term effects?



Link for your claim about transmission testing being required.

I have asked repeatedly snd you still haven't provided one. Probably because you made it up.




Pfizer didn't test for transmission. They have admitted it. So there isn't any link for it. You are getting your arguments confused.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.

Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No


They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.

More false claims from you.


so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?


On average less likely to catch it.

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

Based on your opinion?


Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.

Uk data can be found here.

www.gov.uk...



This is a government website that is peddling a narrative. We need solid proof and not politics or science blended with politics.


Which links to multiple studies.

As opposed to your anonymous unsupported claims on a conspiracy site.


It leads to nothing more than some studies that support the narrative and the disinformation campaign.


As I said earlier, no point in providing you with sources as you won't accept anything that contradicts your view.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot

I'm still really curious as to how the metric of

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

can be measured. If everyone got the same strain, it would be easy. they don't. If everyone reacted the same way to getting Covid, it would be easy, they don't.

I got covid, took Ivermectin, and felt better the next day. Does that mean Ivermectin cures covid?


I reasonably certain that you are smart enough to understand how averages work.





Do you know the medium and long term effects?
How then you claim that these products are safe and effective? Unless you have changed your mind and you don't think anymore they are safe and effective.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Down the bottom you will see sources.

Still no links for your claim? Why is that I wonder?



You gave me a BMJ opinion piece by a freelance journalist who has a Bachelor in Arts and talks about SARS-CoV-2
Do you think that everyone here is a layman when it comes to science & medicine?

Do you know what the medium and long term effects are? How can you defend them that claim you made that these products are safe and effective?


Still more sources than you have provided.

Funny that.


This isn't a link you can rely on but a opinion piece by an Arts graduate.

Your links say nothing by the way.
I have provided several links over several threads do this is another false claim and an attempt to deflect from the conversation.

Do you know that medium and long term effects?



Link for your claim about transmission testing being required.

I have asked repeatedly snd you still haven't provided one. Probably because you made it up.




Pfizer didn't test for transmission. They have admitted it. So there isn't any link for it. You are getting your arguments confused.


You claim was that it was a requirement they forgot.

The confusion is entirely yours.



posted on Dec, 14 2022 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part of the phase3 trial was successfully completed.

Look up on the 'prevention" part. Do they prevent transmission and infection? No.
Do they prevent disease? No.
Have they been tested? No


They reduce risk of infection.
They reduce risk of disease.
They have been tested.

More false claims from you.


so if you get the shot, and you get covid, you will be less sick, than if you didn't get the shot, and got covid, is that what you are saying here?


On average less likely to catch it.

On average less likely to be seriously ill if you do.

Based on your opinion?


Based on research which has been covered over and over again on this site.

Uk data can be found here.

www.gov.uk...



This is a government website that is peddling a narrative. We need solid proof and not politics or science blended with politics.


Which links to multiple studies.

As opposed to your anonymous unsupported claims on a conspiracy site.


It leads to nothing more than some studies that support the narrative and the disinformation campaign.


As I said earlier, no point in providing you with sources as you won't accept anything that contradicts your view.





You don't have much to provide anyway.
A little earlier you gave me an opinion piece in the BMJ who was authored by an Arts Graduate who knows nothing about infectious diseases. I am sure he also thinks the vaccines are safe and effective.


Phase 3
Clinical trials include many thousands of participants. They aim to test whether a vaccine is effective in preventing people from getting the disease – in this case COVID-19. Phase 3 trials also thoroughly assess the vaccine for safety and side effects.


Which part was successfully completed from the phase3 clinical trials?




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