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The family of bedbound John Watt claim he was laid low and soon developed a mystery chronic condition after taking up the offer to be jabbed as part of the national booster scheme rolled out last winter.
But soon after receiving the Pfizer booster,they claim he experienced rapid heart rate, speech impairment, dizziness, nausea and fatigue so severe he lost over two stone in weight in just three weeks.
I don't have a tertiary account but it would be good if he was summoned here so he can argue against your vaccine apologetics and denialism of truth.
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3
I think you should go read it again...
The family of bedbound John Watt claim he was laid low and soon developed a mystery chronic condition after taking up the offer to be jabbed as part of the national booster scheme rolled out last winter.
But soon after receiving the Pfizer booster,they claim he experienced rapid heart rate, speech impairment, dizziness, nausea and fatigue so severe he lost over two stone in weight in just three weeks.
I see you missed the first paragragh out, the paragrapgh you posted was the second one!! I wonder why??
I don't have a tertiary account but it would be good if he was summoned here so he can argue against your vaccine apologetics and denialism of truth.
And how did you "summoning" go with David Icke? I still haven't heard from his solicitors?
His partner Kerri claims despite repeat visits to the doctors and hospital, John's symptoms were initially said to be anxiety-related by NHS doctors - until he was diagnosed with Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS) by a private specialist.
The condition is said to be caused by a problem with the nervous system, leading to abnormal increase in heart rate that occurs after sitting up or standing - with fainting spells said to be common
You said that they made assumptions about POTS but that's not correct as he did see a private specialist. He wasn't self-diagnosed. That's why I copied the second part of the opening page.
But it was only when the couple decided to get a second opinion from a private cardiologist that they had grounds to believe the booster jab may have been responsible.
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3
You said that they made assumptions about POTS but that's not correct as he did see a private specialist. He wasn't self-diagnosed. That's why I copied the second part of the opening page.
Thats an outright lie, I said that his family assumed that the VACCINE cause his problems. I never said anything about his family making asumptions about POTS. You're trying to twist my words to suit your biased view.
They assumed that the vaccine had caused his illness, as from the quote below...
But it was only when the couple decided to get a second opinion from a private cardiologist that they had grounds to believe the booster jab may have been responsible.
John Watts and family suffer from the samething as you and thats making assumptions. I've seen a handful of articles, wheres this TV coverage you talk of? John Watts does seem to like the attention.
Considering the actual amount of people who have suffered serious harm is low, and ATS is inundated daily with ludicrous claims of covid deaths of people commiting suicide and long term cancer deaths, then yes, some of it is unreasonable.
Is he assuming things? Imagining things? Or is he lying?
You certainly don't know how many people have been seriously harmed by the Covid vaccines. To suggest is just low then this is an assumption and you are peddling the official narrative.
In my other thread I have covered the case of a young person in England who died as a result of the Astrazeneca vaccine. It has been covered by the media extensively.
The Astrazeneca vaccine has been branded a safe and effective one which helped save the lives of millions. However the vaccine has been withdrawn from the market in the UK and other countries have stopped the roll out too. I wonder how such a safe and effective vaccine which helped millions of people is taken out of the market?
Something is certainly not right here.
No, the UK government is not ordering future supplies of the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine.
Evidence shows that mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, are more effective at boosting protection from Covid-19, so these vaccines are being recommended for the autumn booster programme.
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Is he assuming things? Imagining things? Or is he lying?
No, it's you who is lying trying to twist my words to fit your agenda, attempting to say I've said things I haven't here.
You certainly don't know how many people have been seriously harmed by the Covid vaccines. To suggest is just low then this is an assumption and you are peddling the official narrative.
I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm going by the actual officially reported cases, the assumption is all yours (as usual) with your posts stating many and no facts.
In my other thread I have covered the case of a young person in England who died as a result of the Astrazeneca vaccine. It has been covered by the media extensively.
How shocking, One case! That really is terrifying, all those deaths..
The Astrazeneca vaccine has been branded a safe and effective one which helped save the lives of millions. However the vaccine has been withdrawn from the market in the UK and other countries have stopped the roll out too. I wonder how such a safe and effective vaccine which helped millions of people is taken out of the market?
Something is certainly not right here.
I think you should be getting your facts straight here (as you seem to enjoy threatening me with liabel actions) before posting "slanderous" remarks!! As you've posted quotes from this site yourself, here..
BHF
No, the UK government is not ordering future supplies of the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine.
Evidence shows that mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, are more effective at boosting protection from Covid-19, so these vaccines are being recommended for the autumn booster programme.
Merry Christmas!
John Watts and family suffer from the samething as you and thats making assumptions. I've seen a handful of articles, wheres this TV coverage you talk of? John Watts does seem to like the attention.
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Considering the actual amount of people who have suffered serious harm is low, and ATS is inundated daily with ludicrous claims of covid deaths of people commiting suicide and long term cancer deaths, then yes, some of it is unreasonable.
Some may turn out to be other or speculation, as you state, but at what point will you back off and allow a discussion of what we do know... there are places in the world where there is a high rate of deaths with unknown causes, we know people were coerced, we know young men were dying at a higher rate of myocarditis than was natural. Even a slight raise is newsworthy.
You keep bringing up this suicide/cancer deaths as if to discredit the OP but at what point can you allow this person to speak? One or too flaws does not negate that people have died from the shots or that some places death rates of the "unknown" nature are really high. If this was an experiment, you'd just throw out that crappy data (suicide etc,) when it becomes known to be flawed and move on. This is pretty frustrating when already the media/government do little to cover genuine vaccine death/injury because they must save face at this point.
What will it take? 100% proof? I mean, now you are slagging off the young man who suffered from the shots here and I think you are being too quick to attack the OP who is simply trying to bring these injuries to light.
Considering there's quite a few on ATS who create such posts, quite a lot of people think there is something wrong with the shots and most certainly with the fascist mandates.
You are shooting the messenger really when you're not exactly bringing proof of otherwise to the table either.
You're claims about John Watt's vaccine injuries are hollow unless you have absolute proof he or his cardiologist are lying. The OP is adding this case to the growing tally of suspect injuries based on Watt's tweet. Why would he lie? The media and medical system have not been kind to people claiming to have vaccine injuries so I doubt this was done for a lark. If he did, we strike it off when the time comes. Until then it fits the pattern.
If you know otherwise, fine. Show us the proof.
edit on 22-12-2022 by igloo because: quote messed up
Some may turn out to be other or speculation, as you state, but at what point will you back off and allow a discussion of what we do know...
John Watts and family suffer from the samething as you and thats making assumptions. I've seen a handful of articles, wheres this TV coverage you talk of? John Watts does seem to like the attention.
Exactly, the UK is not ordering anymore Astrazeneca vaccines just as I have said above. The vaccine has been withdrawn from the market and many other countries have stopped the roll out of this vaccine. Why? If the vaccine is safe and effective...
Yes you are peddling the official narrative of the 'rare' and 'safe and effective' vaccines. If the vaccines are safe and effective why the Astrazeneca vaccine has been withdrawn from the market? In addition why the others are kept in the market?
In the last page I told you to look at his twitter page which you dismissed. He is there explaining he has myocarditis caused by the vaccine as his specialist doctor said.
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Exactly, the UK is not ordering anymore Astrazeneca vaccines just as I have said above. The vaccine has been withdrawn from the market and many other countries have stopped the roll out of this vaccine. Why? If the vaccine is safe and effective...
I posted why with a link from the BHF, evidence shows that mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, are more effective at boosting protection from Covid.
I thought you were against the mRNA vaccinations? The Astrazeneca vaccine is a viral vector vaccine.
Yes you are peddling the official narrative of the 'rare' and 'safe and effective' vaccines. If the vaccines are safe and effective why the Astrazeneca vaccine has been withdrawn from the market? In addition why the others are kept in the market?
I'm not peddling anything here, I'm just going by the actual real data. Like I've said all along, people do have severe reactions to vaccines on rare occasions and thats what the evidence shows. People get over the milder reactions in a few days.
You do seem to repeat yourself when someone doesn't swollow your propaganda.
In the last page I told you to look at his twitter page which you dismissed. He is there explaining he has myocarditis caused by the vaccine as his specialist doctor said.
I dismissed it because I showed that you clearly aren't reading any evidence posted thats contrary to your beliefs, I'm just showing you the same courtesy.
John Watts and family suffer from the samething as you and thats making assumptions. I've seen a handful of articles, wheres this TV coverage you talk of? John Watts does seem to like the attention.
PET scan results = MYOCARDITIS!
Left for over a year with myocarditis, gaslighted and left to believe this was all in my head!
People need to realise you know your own body better than any Dr will!
DR'S ARENT ALWAYS RIGHT!
THE COVID-19 VACCINE IS DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD!