Scot left unable to stand after Covid vaccine reaction raising money for stem cell treatment

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

John Watts and his family know better than me and you and everyone else. No diseases as far as they are concerned. They don't have to be experts to know about John Watt's general health.

Really? they know better than medical experts and Doctors do they? I think Member Andyshake06 is Scottish, next time I'm feeling ill I must remember to ask him for his families opinion instead of a Doctor?!?!?

You can only make assumptions and a hypothesis at this stage given that there is no proof or conclusion.

So making the assumption that it was caused just by the vaccine shows you're only being led by your bias here and isn't the only explanation.....

Strawman! Andy knows nothing about John Watts.
His family and himself know much more than me and you or everyone else.

Unless you claim they lied there is nothing there to suggest John Watts was suffering from a disease that could cause POTS

It's the most plausible explanation that it was caused by the vaccine. Eventhough no definite proof exists still it is the most likely one and regardless of whether there are other explanations.

a reply to: Kurokage


New information from John Watts account on Twitter

twitter.com...

PET scan results = MYOCARDITIS!

Left for over a year with myocarditis, gaslighted and left to believe this was all in my head!

People need to realise you know your own body better than any Dr will!

DR'S ARENT ALWAYS RIGHT!

THE COVID-19 VACCINE IS DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD!

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Strawman! Andy knows nothing about John Watts.
His family and himself know much more than me and you or everyone else.

You clearly don't understand what a strawman arguement is, which is hysterical!!
John Watts family know if he looks perky or not and thats about it.
You keep trying to say that John Watts and his family know more than medical professionals, can you tell me how that works???

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Strawman! Andy knows nothing about John Watts.
His family and himself know much more than me and you or everyone else.

You clearly don't understand what a strawman arguement is, which is hysterical!!
John Watts family know if he looks perky or not and thats about it.
You keep trying to say that John Watts and his family know more than medical professionals, can you tell me how that works???

These are attempts to deviate from the conversation.

Take a look at what I have posted above which you can find in the Twitter page of John Watt.

PET scan results = MYOCARDITIS!

Left for over a year with myocarditis, gaslighted and left to believe this was all in my head!

People need to realise you know your own body better than any Dr will!

DR'S ARENT ALWAYS RIGHT!

THE COVID-19 VACCINE IS DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD!

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Strawman! Andy knows nothing about John Watts.
His family and himself know much more than me and you or everyone else.

You clearly don't understand what a strawman arguement is, which is hysterical!!
John Watts family know if he looks perky or not and thats about it.
You keep trying to say that John Watts and his family know more than medical professionals, can you tell me how that works???

No I have never said what you claimed here. But they know more about him than random internet users.

As for the medical professionals it has taken them a lot of time but they have diagnosed him with myocarditis.

PET scan results = MYOCARDITIS!

Left for over a year with myocarditis, gaslighted and left to believe this was all in my head!

People need to realise you know your own body better than any Dr will!

DR'S ARENT ALWAYS RIGHT!

THE COVID-19 VACCINE IS DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD!

a reply to: Asmodeus3

No I have never said what you claimed here.

Really?? Here's you prevoius statement....

His family and himself know much more than me and you or everyone else.

So POTS or myocarditis? I thought you said John Watts and his family knew what was wrong with him and it was caused by the vaccine?

www.hopkinsmedicine.org...

Although many people recover quickly from COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, others who recover may continue to experience symptoms for months. Researchers are still determining the cause of these extended symptoms, but some COVID-19 "long-haulers" may actually be dealing with a known condition, called postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. This condition, also called POTS, affects involuntary nervous system functions, such as heart rate and blood pressure, usually upon standing from a reclining position.

I'll ask again, could he have had covid previously? Do you know or are you guessing that it was caused by the vaccine?
John Watts illness could have caused by a multitude of things including the vaccine but without evidence you're just guessing just like John Watts...

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

No I have never said what you claimed here.

Really?? Here's you prevoius statement....

His family and himself know much more than me and you or everyone else.

So POTS or myocarditis? I thought you said John Watts and his family knew what was wrong with him and it was caused by the vaccine?

www.hopkinsmedicine.org...

Although many people recover quickly from COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, others who recover may continue to experience symptoms for months. Researchers are still determining the cause of these extended symptoms, but some COVID-19 "long-haulers" may actually be dealing with a known condition, called postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. This condition, also called POTS, affects involuntary nervous system functions, such as heart rate and blood pressure, usually upon standing from a reclining position.

I'll ask again, could he have had covid previously? Do you know or are you guessing that it was caused by the vaccine?
John Watts illness could have caused by a multitude of things including the vaccine but without evidence you're just guessing just like John Watts...

It looks like POTS and Myocarditis. The quotes are directly from his Twitter page which I have linked.

He was diagnosed with POTS and several months after with myocarditis too. He wasn't self-diagnosed by the way. He has seen doctors and experts in their fields.

As he says the Covid-19 vaccine is doing more harm than good.

We also know this to be true in several cases. In a recent thread it was found that the boys aged 12-17 are at more risk from the vaccines than hospitalised with Covid-19

a reply to: Kurokage

It's seems the thread has had plenty of attention. Good that you keep the pages going on plenty of doubts and vaccine apologetics. I don't know the email of John Watts and neither do I have a twitter account. But it would have been if he could give a first hand account of his ordeal with both the vaccine and your lovely NHS

a reply to: Asmodeus3

It looks like POTS and Myocarditis. The quotes are directly from his Twitter page which I have linked.

Like I've said, he's illness could have been caused by many things including Covid and the vaccination but your blinkers are only allowing you to see the vaccination as the cause here and your bias against anyone waiting for actual evidence in this case. Not believing the armchair Doctors like yourself who jump at the chance to claim vaccination was the cause before any evidence is posted is whats leading to the massive flood of misinformation.

Good that you keep the pages going

No need to thank me for trying to show an unbias approach here, I'ts a shame you can't do the same!!

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It looks like POTS and Myocarditis. The quotes are directly from his Twitter page which I have linked.

Like I've said, he's illness could have been caused by many things including Covid and the vaccination but your blinkers are only allowing you to see the vaccination as the cause here and your bias against anyone waiting for actual evidence in this case. Not believing the armchair Doctors like yourself who jump at the chance to claim vaccination was the cause before any evidence is posted is whats leading to the massive flood of misinformation.

Good that you keep the pages going

No need to thank me for trying to show an unbias approach here, I'ts a shame you can't do the same!!

I think in his later video you can find on Twitter, the one I linked, he says that myocarditis is a result of the vaccine as said by the doctor who is a specialist in cardiology. PET scan last week revealed the problem.

I don't have to believe anyone. Here we never discussed about proof but the plausible explanations and we won't wait forever until a definite answer comes. To me and to several others who read these threads the most plausible explanation is the vaccine given the timing and what the family and John Watts have said. It is not a proof but still the most likely explanation.

Given also the new information it becomes much more likely.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

I think in his later video you can find on Twitter, the one I linked, he says that myocarditis is a result of the vaccine as said by the doctor who is a specialist in cardiology. PET scan last week revealed the problem.

Tell me why I should read any link you post to, when I've proven twice now (I've purposely missed out part of a link), and you've comment on it pretending to have read it?!?!?
Your bias won't even allow you read anyting that might counter your assumptions.

I don't have to believe anyone. Here we never discussed about proof but the plausible explanations and we won't wait forever until a definite answer comes.

I know you don't wait for proof, you cant stop yourself from jumping straight to "vaccine caused it" without any evidence.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I think in his later video you can find on Twitter, the one I linked, he says that myocarditis is a result of the vaccine as said by the doctor who is a specialist in cardiology. PET scan last week revealed the problem.

Tell me why I should read any link you post to, when I've proven twice now (I've purposely missed out part of a link), and you've comment on it pretending to have read it?!?!?
Your bias won't even allow you read anyting that might counter your assumptions.

I don't have to believe anyone. Here we never discussed about proof but the plausible explanations and we won't wait forever until a definite answer comes.

I know you don't wait for proof, you cant stop yourself from jumping straight to "vaccine caused it" without any evidence.

What you are saying here isn't correct. I have posted several links from very reputable sources and most of them are either articles, or peer-reviewed scientific publications or pre-prints.

John Watt has had a PET scan and this revealed myocarditis. I think it was a week ago or so. The cardiologist who is assigned to his case said that this is due to the vaccine. So the vaccine is responsible for a range of problems he has.

If you think that John Watts has been lying then this is another matter. But the issue has been covered in the press, he has been given time on TV, and his case continues to get attention in the social media.

So yes, the vaccines can cause health issues.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

What you are saying here isn't correct. I have posted several links from very reputable sources and most of them are either articles, or peer-reviewed scientific publications or pre-prints.

You only come at this with biased opinion and assumptions, never from a neutral angle waiting for conformation or evidence.

The cardiologist who is assigned to his case said that this is due to the vaccine. So the vaccine is responsible for a range of problems he has.

Pleas post the evidence (I'll be waiting for that) that it was the Cardiologist that said it was caused by the vaccine or is that your assumption?

If you think that John Watts has been lying then this is another matter. But the issue has been covered in the press, he has been given time on TV, and his case continues to get attention in the social media.

So yes, the vaccines can cause health issues.

John Watts and family suffer from the samething as you and thats making assumtions. I've seen a handful of articles, wheres this TV coverage you talk of? John Watts does seem to like the attention.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

What you are saying here isn't correct. I have posted several links from very reputable sources and most of them are either articles, or peer-reviewed scientific publications or pre-prints.

You only come at this with biased opinion and assumptions, never from a neutral angle waiting for conformation or evidence.

The cardiologist who is assigned to his case said that this is due to the vaccine. So the vaccine is responsible for a range of problems he has.

Pleas post the evidence (I'll be waiting for that) that it was the Cardiologist that said it was caused by the vaccine or is that your assumption?

If you think that John Watts has been lying then this is another matter. But the issue has been covered in the press, he has been given time on TV, and his case continues to get attention in the social media.

So yes, the vaccines can cause health issues.

John Watts and family suffer from the samething as you and thats making assumtions. I've seen a handful of articles, wheres this TV coverage you talk of? John Watts does seem to like the attention.

I have already posted the link on the Twitter account of John Watts who has verified himself the results of his PET scan. He speaks about it in a 2 minute video. He says on the video that his cardiologist confirmed this.

Unless you think he is lying.

What I post is not extraordinary or unreasonable. On the contrary most comes from the scientific literature with proven cases of death by the vaccine or proven vaccine injuries. The rest is about suspected cases and this has very good merits.

So now you think myself as well as the family 'suffer' front assumptions?! And they also like media attention?!

Perhaps we can bring him here in these threads to explain his condition. And you can have a conversation directly with him. You could explain what you are telling me i.e that he has made several assumptions and he looks for attention.

Good that you comment here. The thread has had a lot of attention. Let's see if we can summon him in these threads.

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a reply to: Asmodeus3

What I post is not extraordinary or unreasonable. On the contrary most comes from the scientific literature with proven cases of death by the vaccine or proven vaccine injuries. The rest is about suspected cases and this has very good merits.

Considering the actual amount of people who have suffered serious harm is low, and ATS is inundated daily with ludicrous claims of covid deaths of people commiting suicide and long term cancer deaths, then yes, some of it is unreasonable.

So now you think myself as well as the family 'suffer' front assumptions?! And they also like media attention?!

Yes, I do think the family and you made assumptions in this case.
John Watts family were quick to announce his POTS was caused by the vaccine without evidence and based purely on assumption before he'd even seen a medical professional.

Perhaps we can bring him here in these threads to explain his condition. And you can have a conversation directly with him. You could explain what you are telling me i.e that he has made several assumptions and he looks for attention.

Yes, you could invite him along with the invitation you sent to David Icke when you were threating legal action.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

What I post is not extraordinary or unreasonable. On the contrary most comes from the scientific literature with proven cases of death by the vaccine or proven vaccine injuries. The rest is about suspected cases and this has very good merits.

Considering the actual amount of people who have suffered serious harm is low, and ATS is inundated daily with ludicrous
claims of covid deaths of people commiting suicide and long term cancer deaths, then yes, some of it is unreasonable.

So now you think myself as well as the family 'suffer' front assumptions?! And they also like media attention?!

Yes, I do think the family and you made assumptions in this case.
John Watts family were quick to announce his POTS was caused by the vaccine without evidence and based purely on assumption before he'd even seen a medical professional.

Perhaps we can bring him here in these threads to explain his condition. And you can have a conversation directly with him. You could explain what you are telling me i.e that he has made several assumptions and he looks for attention.

Yes, you could invite him along with the invitation you sent to David Icke when you were threating legal action.

You are mistaken here for once more. All you had to do is read the opening page or the links I have given.

His partner Kerri claims despite repeat visits to the doctors and hospital, John's symptoms were initially said to be anxiety-related by NHS doctors - until he was diagnosed with Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS) by a private specialist.

The condition is said to be caused by a problem with the nervous system, leading to abnormal increase in heart rate that occurs after sitting up or standing - with fainting spells said to be common

John Watts was not self-diagnosed. According to the article he has seen a private specialist who diagnosed hin. In addition his family has paid a lot of money going to private doctors.

Lately he has also been diagnosed with myocarditis. He has a twitter page where he describes it in just over 2 minutes.

I don't have a twitter account but it would be good if he was summoned here so he can argue against your vaccine apologetics and denialism of truth.