Exposed !! Hidden Video Showing What Really Hit The Pentagon !!

originally posted by: SnowBox2022

you have to admit there was some dirty tricks going on that day.

I always think we debate the wrong stuff. We debate if a plane hit it or not, same with the towers. What we need to debate is who was behind it all. The acts are done and to come up with 50 different conspiracies on how things were destroyed is stupid when only one is right, AND there were planes involved.

originally posted by: McGinty

I guess if i'm grasping to get rid of loose ends the question would be, having convinced me that a new pilot could do this, would you think that one of the hijackers could've been good enough to do this? Would they have had access to a simulator and whatever resources are needed to train to the standard of a new pilot taking their first flight with an instructor?

Of course it could have been the actual pilot, or co-pilot guiding the plane into the pentagon under duress. But i doubt that, since surely in the moments before impact, knowing everyone would die even if he did as he was told, then wouldn't the pilot choose to hit the ground instead, to save those in the building? Imo it had to be a hijacker flying it at that moment

I'm 100% sure a plane hit the the pentagon at like 500+ MPH due to the aircraft debris, actual positive DNA check of almost all passengers, those people are actually dead too, so on and so forth, so a plane hit the building and that is proof it can be done with a somewhat beginner pilot. We can what if the skills of the hijackers all day, but we can do the same in the other direction in what if they got more training then what we know, so what ifs are just an endless string of nothing.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: SnowBox2022

you have to admit there was some dirty tricks going on that day.

I always think we debate the wrong stuff. We debate if a plane hit it or not, same with the towers. What we need to debate is who was behind it all. The acts are done and to come up with 50 different conspiracies on how things were destroyed is stupid when only one is right, AND there were planes involved.

its simple who is really in charge in Washington, just look at the doner list and who is paying for multimillion dollar speeches that last 45 min to see who pulls the chains of power.

there is no America, China, Russia, Uk etc. we are broken into economic regions with different kind of money to ID how much it is worth as paper is worth nothing.

I can come up with a million reasons why someone that knew they could get away with something like this(again ask who can call back NORAD) and the only thing that really is a mystery is HOW they did it and WHY so many people are apparently going super black hat.

or the ineptitude and secret hording of agencies pre 9/11 were criminal and the lack of institutionalized secret hording le this group of nobody's take down the baddest military in the world.

HUBRIS

a reply to: WhatItIs

Like those passports that were on the world trade centers intact? not burned or damaged?


AQ in Iraq? WMDs ring a bell? you believe that type of govt.

originally posted by: vNex92

AQ in Iraq? WMDs ring a bell? you believe that type of govt.

There was actually WMDs there, but Saddam got rid of it all before the invasion, I saw the bunkers that were still dangerous to go into, but that does mean the war was justified.

originally posted by: SnowBox2022

or the ineptitude and secret hording of agencies pre 9/11 were criminal and the lack of institutionalized secret hording le this group of nobody's take down the baddest military in the world.

HUBRIS

The problem with most conspiracy is once you follow the chain it drifts off in a chaotic mess that implies true perfection of a large group of people with a rather massive logistics chain that all was prefect in orchestrating and now 20 years later still all silent... Never going to happen... Now if someone said Dick Cheney had a group that backed getting the hijackers here to perform their tasks I could believe that.

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: AlexandrosTheGreat

Agree...

9/11 pisses me off for a lot of reasons, the biggest one is that I was initially fooled. I toyed with the idea of signing up to go across the world and fight people who had nothing to do with it. Luckily, within a month or so, after looking at the pictures and the videos I started to feel something was really off with the whole thing.

As bizzare as a plane vaporizing from hitting a concrete building, a plane burying itself all the way in the ground is another one that I always thought may be even more so. Never in the history of air crashes has a plane hit the ground and "Sunk" in so far nothing was visible.

And there you go. 1.7 million or more innocent people from one nation, a nation which was at the front of science and technology and the worlds highest literacy rate was reduced to rubble and set back a hundred years but my God, the lost souls...nearly 2 million. Bush and Cheney are the greatest mass murderers of our time.

And that’s all regardless of what you think of 911. Blaming Iraq would be wrong no matter what and we sent so many bright eyed patriotic young people to commit mass murder for reasons they were told were noble. How they must struggle day and night for their lives with that.

You know your photo there is of Paul Bartz right? An investigator on the case who wears glasses. a reply to: jtrenthacker

the pole is designed to fail? my money is on the steel, every time.

a reply to: kittywrangler

No the bolts connecting the pole to the base are designed to shear off when struck - a way to prevent fatal injury to the people in the car by avoiding the sudden impact

Remember, a 124 foot wingspan plane COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED into a 60 foot hole in the pentagon wall.

Totally normal, nothing to see here.

a reply to: PurpleFox

Cant believe still have fools pedaling this nonsense 20 years later .......

There were actually 2 holes - lower one just above ground level was measured at 96 ft - this the distance of the heaviest
part of the aircraft, the wings which contain the ribs and spars to give it structural integrity , the engines and mounting pylon - each engine weighs more than 5 tons and is built of high strength alloys to resist the high temperature and force inside the combustion chamber The fuel in the tanks travelling at 500 mph will hit with force greater than tsunami


The second hole at 2nd floor level was created by fuselage and measured around 17 ft in diameter

ust like Building 7 falling inside its own footprint.

a reply to: Debunkology

WTC 7 slumped to the north crossing a 4 lane street (Barclay St) and damaged 30 west Broadway (Fiterman Hall) of Manhattan Community College

Also badly damaged Verizon (140 West St) next to it

Exactly and no amount of Microsoft/plane game simulators would help you on that.

a reply to: vNex92

Which is why the hijacker pilot, Hani Hanjour, practiced in a REAL JET SIMULATOR at Jet Tech in Mesa Arizona He flew in simulator for a 737
which being a Boeing product was almost identical to the larger 757

He practiced making turns and flying , but no takeoff and landings, the hardest part of a flight especially at night in bad weather

Like those passports that were on the world trade centers intact? not burned or damaged?

a reply to: vNex92

They also recovered a manifest from American 11 Along with mail from the cargo hold which was found on the street ....

a reply to: SnowBox2022

www.youtube.com...

Absolutely prophetic movie. If you've never seen it, I highly recommend it.

a reply to: MaxxAction

You do recognize the difference between fiction, which NETWORK is, and reality .......

Unfortunately most conspiracy type have trouble telling the difference - ie believing an airplane crash looks like that of
Wile E Coyote in Looney Tunes cartoon

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: WhatItIs

Like those passports that were on the world trade centers intact? not burned or damaged?

Again. It’s expected for some items to survive a crashed aircraft.

Just ask some of the Russian backed rebels that went through the personal items that survived the MH 17 crash.

Remains, personal belongings of MH17 passengers found on Aug. 1-2 sent to Netherlands


www.kyivpost.com... -sent-to-netherlands-359337.html

The state commission said that during the search operations on Monday some personal belongings of passengers killed in the airliner crash were found, in particular a passport and photo albums. However, the search on Monday lasted only for half an hour because gunfire was heard not far from the crash site.

a reply to: WhatItIs

That link got 404'ed already.

The pic was obviously doctored. You wouldn't have that much luggage all together like that.

a reply to: nerbot

OP This has been doing the rounds for weeks now. You're late to the game.

Video is of such low quality and a recording of a screen that it's useless.

The OP's video is very old, from 2002, and it was proven to be a fake back then too. Debunkers found the original video used to add the special effects.