Denmark somthing horible is going on.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Are you saying a planned 100 year 'cull' of the human population?

Does this mean you are implying WW1 and 2 were planned 'culls' ?

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: anonentity

You missed a golden opportunity to title the thread Something is rotten in Denmark.

Is there a place where we can look at the stats independent of Bitchute?

Deaths - Statistics Denmark

I'd guess that the official statistics haven't come in for 2022, yet, but clearly the number of deaths have been rising since before the pandemic and the COVID-19 vaccines.

Although, there is some indication that the excess deaths at the peak of the pandemic are now reducing:

Mortality is declining in Denmark - Statens Serum Institut

You are clearly in a denial if you imply that the fatality rate would have risen anyway in the young and healthy populations because it seems it was much higher even before the pandemic. There is no evidence for it.

In 2017, the death rate for under thirties was higher, but it was rising over subsequent years. The evidence is the official stats, which I posted.

If you don't want to be in the state of denial then ask yourself what is different between now and then.

1) Lockdowns
2) Lack of good primary care in some countries
3) Wrong response to the pandemic
4) Vaccines

Clearly 1) and 4) could affect the young and healthy populations quite a lot. The other two are also playing a good role.

You completely missed that there was a pandemic disease. I suspect that might have had an effect, and far more than any of the 4 you posted.

I recall that on another thread you were claiming SARS-CoV-2 existed for a long period of time before it became pathogenic and it was with us for several years...But there is no evidence that natural selection happened after zoonosis.

And all the strains of SARS-CoV-2 which have arisen since and gained dominance, what was that? Mutation and natural selection are clearly in evidence.

If the virus had been circulating in humans before it became pathogenic, it would explain why it binds specifically to human ACE2 with such affinity (and the ACE2 binding is not the pathogenic part of the virus, as is demonstrated by the safety of the mRNA vaccines which code for the spike protein that binds to ACE2). And no-one would have noticed he ancestor strain because at worst it was just another mild cold producing coronavirus prior to acquiring pathogenicity.

Now you seem to claim that there were some sort of stealth health issues in the population prior to the pandemic.

Not stealth. These are all-cause mortality statistics, most would be of quite clear causes of death.

Many posters here are taking the same but current all-cause mortality statistics, and thinking that only the one thing is causing them.

These are self-defeating claims that have no basis on anything.

No, they aren't. They are evidence based, whereas the conspiracist theories are pure speculation and usually a misreading of very few cherry-picked cases.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: pureblood69
a reply to: putnam6

Is there a place where we can look at the stats independent of Bitchute?

I am honestly curious what site you would trust ?

Well, just about any site would be more reliable than **BITCHUTE**, where there's no motivation or control to prevent the most outrageous of lies from gathering all the attention.

edit on Mon Nov 14 2022 by DontTreadOnMe because: Reaffirming Our Desire For Productive Debate (REVISED)

Yes, I tend to follow the researchers and scientists even if their truth is inconvenient and bursts our delusion and denial bubbles.

thetyee.ca...

a reply to: chris_stibrany

Who is the actual threat to the status quo? I would say young fighting-age men with the energy to change things. It is strange that they get culled in war. Going over the top in massive waves and getting mowed down by machine guns was stupid in the extreme unless the point was to lose a lot of personnel. The lower ranks were just following orders. But the actual people directing it never missed a Gin and Tonic far enough away from the dirty end to even crack a sweat. The first world war just about wiped a generation out. The second and consequent conflicts have seemed to wipe a load of civilians out which is getting worse as the reality is they are not part of the conflict. So it does all look a bit like a culling exercise with no real political conclusion.

a reply to: anonentity

Don't forget Spanish Flu. That was really bad.

Was that planned too?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: anonentity

You missed a golden opportunity to title the thread Something is rotten in Denmark.

Is there a place where we can look at the stats independent of Bitchute?

Deaths - Statistics Denmark

I'd guess that the official statistics haven't come in for 2022, yet, but clearly the number of deaths have been rising since before the pandemic and the COVID-19 vaccines.

Although, there is some indication that the excess deaths at the peak of the pandemic are now reducing:

Mortality is declining in Denmark - Statens Serum Institut

You are clearly in a denial if you imply that the fatality rate would have risen anyway in the young and healthy populations because it seems it was much higher even before the pandemic. There is no evidence for it.

In 2017, the death rate for under thirties was higher, but it was rising over subsequent years. The evidence is the official stats, which I posted.

If you don't want to be in the state of denial then ask yourself what is different between now and then.

1) Lockdowns
2) Lack of good primary care in some countries
3) Wrong response to the pandemic
4) Vaccines

Clearly 1) and 4) could affect the young and healthy populations quite a lot. The other two are also playing a good role.

You completely missed that there was a pandemic disease. I suspect that might have had an effect, and far more than any of the 4 you posted.

I recall that on another thread you were claiming SARS-CoV-2 existed for a long period of time before it became pathogenic and it was with us for several years...But there is no evidence that natural selection happened after zoonosis.

And all the strains of SARS-CoV-2 which have arisen since and gained dominance, what was that? Mutation and natural selection are clearly in evidence.

If the virus had been circulating in humans before it became pathogenic, it would explain why it binds specifically to human ACE2 with such affinity (and the ACE2 binding is not the pathogenic part of the virus, as is demonstrated by the safety of the mRNA vaccines which code for the spike protein that binds to ACE2). And no-one would have noticed he ancestor strain because at worst it was just another mild cold producing coronavirus prior to acquiring pathogenicity.

Now you seem to claim that there were some sort of stealth health issues in the population prior to the pandemic.

Not stealth. These are all-cause mortality statistics, most would be of quite clear causes of death.

Many posters here are taking the same but current all-cause mortality statistics, and thinking that only the one thing is causing them.

These are self-defeating claims that have no basis on anything.

No, they aren't. They are evidence based, whereas the conspiracist theories are pure speculation and usually a misreading of very few cherry-picked cases.

It isn't correct to state that the pandemic has had a far more serious effect on young and healthy people than the 4 things I have listed given that the infection fatality rate for the young and healthy groups is extremely small.

www.medrxiv.org...

0.0003% for the 0-19 age group
0.003% for the 20-29 age group
0.011% for the 30-39 age group

For example if you are in the 0-19 age group this is 3 deaths per one million infections and if you are in the 20-29 age group this is 3 deaths per 100,000 infections.

Lockdowns only one their own together with the wrong response can have a much greater toll especially in the long term. So no, what you said is not correct.

There is no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was circulating in humans prior to autumn of 2019.
There two main hypotheses are zoonosis after natural selection has occured and lab-leak.

Lately the US Senate has concluded that according to the current evidence the most likely scenario is the lab-leak.

You don't have much evidence to present other than your views. I recall last time when you said the virus was here for long before it has become pathogenic. No evidence for it exist. Then you went to argue that the Cambrian Explosion disproves evolution!

No it's doesn't. It just shows that evolution isn't a linear process.

Clearly your arguments are false and show a lack of understanding of the basic facts. Especially the one with the Cambrian Explosion...

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Are you saying a planned 100 year 'cull' of the human population?

Does this mean you are implying WW1 and 2 were planned 'culls' ?

They were. All wars are just a game of theater played out by the 'elites' , and we are the pawns.

well put
a reply to: anonentity

I like chess.

I like prawns too.

But yeah dying for that stuff is 'silly'

a reply to: ancientlight

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Wow did we really surpass 8 billion? That's fantastic. You know, this planet is so dang huge that I just can't see how we could mismanage our resources to the degree that we have such an assumption as scarcity.

a reply to: DirtWasher

What's that got to do with Depopulation claims?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

It is the assumption of scarcity that gives rise to the intent to depop, or the theory of the intent.

a reply to: DirtWasher

My point was, it's not happening?

As some have claimed.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You don't have much evidence to present other than your views.

I don't think the low fatality rates of young people come as a surprise. That's not the horrible part, is it?

What the fork is going on in Denmark now, did they run out of Rød pølse?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

That's not necessarily definite if we go out on a speculative limb and consider that without such depop activities, the world population would be much higher than what it is today. I'm not sure either way. It becomes a paradox when I think about how resource scarcity is due to mismanagement and greed, and the concept of population control must be implemented in order for resources to continue to be extorted.

Gonna need to see some FOIA documents about that.

a reply to: DirtWasher

If it's going up it ain't Depopulation?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I would say the nefarious slowing of population growth constitutes depopulation as a means. In theory, we could still be waiting for another big event to take place to put that number in the red.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: anonentity

You missed a golden opportunity to title the thread Something is rotten in Denmark.

Is there a place where we can look at the stats independent of Bitchute?

Deaths - Statistics Denmark

I'd guess that the official statistics haven't come in for 2022, yet, but clearly the number of deaths have been rising since before the pandemic and the COVID-19 vaccines.

Although, there is some indication that the excess deaths at the peak of the pandemic are now reducing:

Mortality is declining in Denmark - Statens Serum Institut

You are clearly in a denial if you imply that the fatality rate would have risen anyway in the young and healthy populations because it seems it was much higher even before the pandemic. There is no evidence for it.

In 2017, the death rate for under thirties was higher, but it was rising over subsequent years. The evidence is the official stats, which I posted.

If you don't want to be in the state of denial then ask yourself what is different between now and then.

1) Lockdowns
2) Lack of good primary care in some countries
3) Wrong response to the pandemic
4) Vaccines

Clearly 1) and 4) could affect the young and healthy populations quite a lot. The other two are also playing a good role.

You completely missed that there was a pandemic disease. I suspect that might have had an effect, and far more than any of the 4 you posted.

I recall that on another thread you were claiming SARS-CoV-2 existed for a long period of time before it became pathogenic and it was with us for several years...But there is no evidence that natural selection happened after zoonosis.

And all the strains of SARS-CoV-2 which have arisen since and gained dominance, what was that? Mutation and natural selection are clearly in evidence.

If the virus had been circulating in humans before it became pathogenic, it would explain why it binds specifically to human ACE2 with such affinity (and the ACE2 binding is not the pathogenic part of the virus, as is demonstrated by the safety of the mRNA vaccines which code for the spike protein that binds to ACE2). And no-one would have noticed he ancestor strain because at worst it was just another mild cold producing coronavirus prior to acquiring pathogenicity.

Now you seem to claim that there were some sort of stealth health issues in the population prior to the pandemic.

Not stealth. These are all-cause mortality statistics, most would be of quite clear causes of death.

Many posters here are taking the same but current all-cause mortality statistics, and thinking that only the one thing is causing them.

These are self-defeating claims that have no basis on anything.

No, they aren't. They are evidence based, whereas the conspiracist theories are pure speculation and usually a misreading of very few cherry-picked cases.

It isn't correct to state that the pandemic has had a far more serious effect on young and healthy people than the 4 things I have listed given that the infection fatality rate for the young and healthy groups is extremely small.

www.medrxiv.org...

0.0003% for the 0-19 age group
0.003% for the 20-29 age group
0.011% for the 30-39 age group

While those percentages look really small, there have been 27,020 deaths due to COVID, in the USA, of people under 30 (as of 2 November, 2022).

For example if you are in the 0-19 age group this is 3 deaths per one million infections and if you are in the 20-29 age group this is 3 deaths per 100,000 infections.

There are approximately 335 million people in the US.

Lockdowns only one their own together with the wrong response can have a much greater toll especially in the long term. So no, what you said is not correct.

How many people died of having an extended holiday lockdown? Why don't people who malinger on social security all die, if that was the case?

There is no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was circulating in humans prior to autumn of 2019.

Yes, there is. The SARS-CoV virus appeared in humans in 2002. Was it a lab leak too, from before we had the genetic tools to do gain-of-function research? Did it suddenly cease, or did it go dormant, hmmm?

But most existing strains of SARS-CoV-2 are not branches off the Alpha strain originally detected in Wuhan in 2019. They are branches of an as yet unidentified earlier parent.

Take a look at SARS-CoV-2's family tree. It's full of surprises

There two main hypotheses are zoonosis after natural selection has occured and lab-leak.

Yet, no species involved in recent zoonosis is identifiable, and all the features in the virus already exist in other coronaviruses, and we now know the virus is recombinant, and if we trace the lineage of all the strains back, they point to an unknown common ancestor.

Lately the US Senate has concluded that according to the current evidence the most likely scenario is the lab-leak.

And they'd know.

Have you ever noticed that whenever someone tries to provide evidence for gain of function research and the lab leak theory, that they spend all their time trying to show where funding came from, as if that were valid evidence.

LOL.

You don't have much evidence to present other than your views. I recall last time when you said the virus was here for long before it has become pathogenic. No evidence for it exist. Then you went to argue that the Cambrian Explosion disproves evolution!

No it's doesn't. It just shows that evolution isn't a linear process.

Clearly your arguments are false and show a lack of understanding of the basic facts. Especially the one with the Cambrian Explosion...

No, evolution occurs, but what doesn't occur is speciation where one branch cannot mate successfully with another. At that point, the genetic line is terminal due to lack of mates and it confers such a problem that it is selected against, even if an occasional mating is successful.

And punctuated equilibrium is not part of the modern evolutionary synthesis but is an example of where the theory's basics are unable to describe what has been observed. But punctuated equilibrium and irregular bursts of new species are part of the record of life on Earth.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: anonentity

You missed a golden opportunity to title the thread Something is rotten in Denmark.

Is there a place where we can look at the stats independent of Bitchute?

Deaths - Statistics Denmark

I'd guess that the official statistics haven't come in for 2022, yet, but clearly the number of deaths have been rising since before the pandemic and the COVID-19 vaccines.

Although, there is some indication that the excess deaths at the peak of the pandemic are now reducing:

Mortality is declining in Denmark - Statens Serum Institut

You are clearly in a denial if you imply that the fatality rate would have risen anyway in the young and healthy populations because it seems it was much higher even before the pandemic. There is no evidence for it.

In 2017, the death rate for under thirties was higher, but it was rising over subsequent years. The evidence is the official stats, which I posted.

If you don't want to be in the state of denial then ask yourself what is different between now and then.

1) Lockdowns
2) Lack of good primary care in some countries
3) Wrong response to the pandemic
4) Vaccines

Clearly 1) and 4) could affect the young and healthy populations quite a lot. The other two are also playing a good role.

You completely missed that there was a pandemic disease. I suspect that might have had an effect, and far more than any of the 4 you posted.

I recall that on another thread you were claiming SARS-CoV-2 existed for a long period of time before it became pathogenic and it was with us for several years...But there is no evidence that natural selection happened after zoonosis.

And all the strains of SARS-CoV-2 which have arisen since and gained dominance, what was that? Mutation and natural selection are clearly in evidence.

If the virus had been circulating in humans before it became pathogenic, it would explain why it binds specifically to human ACE2 with such affinity (and the ACE2 binding is not the pathogenic part of the virus, as is demonstrated by the safety of the mRNA vaccines which code for the spike protein that binds to ACE2). And no-one would have noticed he ancestor strain because at worst it was just another mild cold producing coronavirus prior to acquiring pathogenicity.

Now you seem to claim that there were some sort of stealth health issues in the population prior to the pandemic.

Not stealth. These are all-cause mortality statistics, most would be of quite clear causes of death.

Many posters here are taking the same but current all-cause mortality statistics, and thinking that only the one thing is causing them.

These are self-defeating claims that have no basis on anything.

No, they aren't. They are evidence based, whereas the conspiracist theories are pure speculation and usually a misreading of very few cherry-picked cases.

It isn't correct to state that the pandemic has had a far more serious effect on young and healthy people than the 4 things I have listed given that the infection fatality rate for the young and healthy groups is extremely small.

www.medrxiv.org...

0.0003% for the 0-19 age group
0.003% for the 20-29 age group
0.011% for the 30-39 age group

While those percentages look really small, there have been 27,020 deaths due to COVID, in the USA, of people under 30 (as of 2 November, 2022).

For example if you are in the 0-19 age group this is 3 deaths per one million infections and if you are in the 20-29 age group this is 3 deaths per 100,000 infections.

There are approximately 335 million people in the US.

Lockdowns only one their own together with the wrong response can have a much greater toll especially in the long term. So no, what you said is not correct.

There is no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was circulating in humans prior to autumn of 2019.

But most existing strains of SARS-CoV-2 are not branches off the Alpha strain originally detected in Wuhan in 2019. They are branches of an as yet unidentified earlier parent.

Take a look at SARS-CoV-2's family tree. It's full of surprises

There two main hypotheses are zoonosis after natural selection has occured and lab-leak.

Yet, no species involved in recent zoonosis is identifiable, and all the features in the virus already exist in other coronaviruses, and we now know the virus is recombinant, and if we trace the lineage of all the strains back, they point to an unknown common ancestor.

Lately the US Senate has concluded that according to the current evidence the most likely scenario is the lab-leak.

And they'd know.

Have you ever noticed that whenever someone tries to provide evidence for gain of function research and the lab leak theory, that they spend all their time trying to show where funding came from, as if that were valid evidence.

LOL.

You don't have much evidence to present other than your views. I recall last time when you said the virus was here for long before it has become pathogenic. No evidence for it exist. Then you went to argue that the Cambrian Explosion disproves evolution!

No it's doesn't. It just shows that evolution isn't a linear process.

Clearly your arguments are false and show a lack of understanding of the basic facts. Especially the one with the Cambrian Explosion...

No, evolution occurs, but what doesn't occur is speciation where one branch cannot mate successfully with another. At that point, the genetic line is terminal due to lack of mates and it confers such a problem that it is selected against, even if an occasional mating is successful.

And punctuated equilibrium is not part of the modern evolutionary synthesis but is an example of where the theory's basics are unable to describe what has been observed. But punctuated equilibrium and irregular bursts of new species are part of the record of life on Earth.

Clearly you don't understand evolution at all when dismissing its non linear effects and claiming that the Cambrian Explosion is an example that contradicts evolution.

There is nobody who entertains the hypothesis that SARS-CoV-2 has existed among humans for a long period of time. No discussion is made anywhere apart from a paper which considered the possibility but nowhere else. SARS-CoV-2 is considered a novel virus by all metrics.

The lab-leak hypothesis has gained a lot momentum and lately the US Senate has concluded is the most likely hypothesis. Nobody has concluded that SARS-CoV-2 was among humans for decades before becoming pathogenic.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: anonentity

You missed a golden opportunity to title the thread Something is rotten in Denmark.

Is there a place where we can look at the stats independent of Bitchute?

Deaths - Statistics Denmark

I'd guess that the official statistics haven't come in for 2022, yet, but clearly the number of deaths have been rising since before the pandemic and the COVID-19 vaccines.

Although, there is some indication that the excess deaths at the peak of the pandemic are now reducing:

Mortality is declining in Denmark - Statens Serum Institut

You are clearly in a denial if you imply that the fatality rate would have risen anyway in the young and healthy populations because it seems it was much higher even before the pandemic. There is no evidence for it.

In 2017, the death rate for under thirties was higher, but it was rising over subsequent years. The evidence is the official stats, which I posted.

If you don't want to be in the state of denial then ask yourself what is different between now and then.

1) Lockdowns
2) Lack of good primary care in some countries
3) Wrong response to the pandemic
4) Vaccines

Clearly 1) and 4) could affect the young and healthy populations quite a lot. The other two are also playing a good role.

You completely missed that there was a pandemic disease. I suspect that might have had an effect, and far more than any of the 4 you posted.

I recall that on another thread you were claiming SARS-CoV-2 existed for a long period of time before it became pathogenic and it was with us for several years...But there is no evidence that natural selection happened after zoonosis.

And all the strains of SARS-CoV-2 which have arisen since and gained dominance, what was that? Mutation and natural selection are clearly in evidence.

If the virus had been circulating in humans before it became pathogenic, it would explain why it binds specifically to human ACE2 with such affinity (and the ACE2 binding is not the pathogenic part of the virus, as is demonstrated by the safety of the mRNA vaccines which code for the spike protein that binds to ACE2). And no-one would have noticed he ancestor strain because at worst it was just another mild cold producing coronavirus prior to acquiring pathogenicity.

Now you seem to claim that there were some sort of stealth health issues in the population prior to the pandemic.

Not stealth. These are all-cause mortality statistics, most would be of quite clear causes of death.

Many posters here are taking the same but current all-cause mortality statistics, and thinking that only the one thing is causing them.

These are self-defeating claims that have no basis on anything.

No, they aren't. They are evidence based, whereas the conspiracist theories are pure speculation and usually a misreading of very few cherry-picked cases.

It isn't correct to state that the pandemic has had a far more serious effect on young and healthy people than the 4 things I have listed given that the infection fatality rate for the young and healthy groups is extremely small.

www.medrxiv.org...

0.0003% for the 0-19 age group
0.003% for the 20-29 age group
0.011% for the 30-39 age group

While those percentages look really small, there have been 27,020 deaths due to COVID, in the USA, of people under 30 (as of 2 November, 2022).

For example if you are in the 0-19 age group this is 3 deaths per one million infections and if you are in the 20-29 age group this is 3 deaths per 100,000 infections.

There are approximately 335 million people in the US.

Lockdowns only one their own together with the wrong response can have a much greater toll especially in the long term. So no, what you said is not correct.

There is no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was circulating in humans prior to autumn of 2019.

But most existing strains of SARS-CoV-2 are not branches off the Alpha strain originally detected in Wuhan in 2019. They are branches of an as yet unidentified earlier parent.

Take a look at SARS-CoV-2's family tree. It's full of surprises

There two main hypotheses are zoonosis after natural selection has occured and lab-leak.

Yet, no species involved in recent zoonosis is identifiable, and all the features in the virus already exist in other coronaviruses, and we now know the virus is recombinant, and if we trace the lineage of all the strains back, they point to an unknown common ancestor.

Lately the US Senate has concluded that according to the current evidence the most likely scenario is the lab-leak.

And they'd know.

Have you ever noticed that whenever someone tries to provide evidence for gain of function research and the lab leak theory, that they spend all their time trying to show where funding came from, as if that were valid evidence.

LOL.

You don't have much evidence to present other than your views. I recall last time when you said the virus was here for long before it has become pathogenic. No evidence for it exist. Then you went to argue that the Cambrian Explosion disproves evolution!

No it's doesn't. It just shows that evolution isn't a linear process.

Clearly your arguments are false and show a lack of understanding of the basic facts. Especially the one with the Cambrian Explosion...

No, evolution occurs, but what doesn't occur is speciation where one branch cannot mate successfully with another. At that point, the genetic line is terminal due to lack of mates and it confers such a problem that it is selected against, even if an occasional mating is successful.

And punctuated equilibrium is not part of the modern evolutionary synthesis but is an example of where the theory's basics are unable to describe what has been observed. But punctuated equilibrium and irregular bursts of new species are part of the record of life on Earth.

Yes the infection fatality rates are extremely small in the young age groups and children which prove how wrong the closure of schools and universities were. Adding in this the catastrophic lockdowns and you get the worst possible scenario with many more causalities in the medium and long term for young and healthy people because of the closures and long term lockdowns.

Given also the experimental and potentially dangerous 'vaccines' and you I am sure you get the picture.