Mom Of Dead 18 Year Old Vows To Make It Her Life's Mission - "100% Because of the [Vaccine]"

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

It can't be easy to live with knowing you made your children get an experimental vaccine that did virtually nothing to protect them and they didn't need it and was particularly dangerous. I'd be beside myself with rage at myself and for those that made the vaccine and those that conned me into getting it.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: fencesitter85
"100% it was because of the vaccine"

She is literally not qualified to state that. Awful tragedy - unseen congenital defects hit thousands of people per year.

Waiting on the coroners report.

If it comes back clean, my money is on the OP calling this a cover up.

So far the vax is on par with most modern vax when it comes to deaths. People do die after shots, but not enough to be depopulation. It's a fraction of a percent.

They pulled the astrazeneca vax in Europe after 15 deaths.

pharmanewsintel.com...

Yes countries have suspended the vaccine at that time as there were serious concerns in regards to its safety.

Non safe and effective in a few words.

The fact that they pulled it after 15 deaths (globally, not within the EU, globally) absolutely and incontrovertibly debunks the narrative that A) this is deliberate and B) that it's being covered up.

The MSM in Europe absolutely would not shut up about this at the time, and ministers within multiple EU governments were asking all kinds of questions both from big pharma and from their own establishments. This was very much done in the open and it was very much in the news. So absolutely no coverup.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: fencesitter85
"100% it was because of the vaccine"

She is literally not qualified to state that. Awful tragedy - unseen congenital defects hit thousands of people per year.

Waiting on the coroners report.

If it comes back clean, my money is on the OP calling this a cover up.

So far the vax is on par with most modern vax when it comes to deaths. People do die after shots, but not enough to be depopulation. It's a fraction of a percent.

They pulled the astrazeneca vax in Europe after 15 deaths.

pharmanewsintel.com...

Yes countries have suspended the vaccine at that time as there were serious concerns in regards to its safety.

Non safe and effective in a few words.

The fact that they pulled it after 15 deaths (globally, not within the EU, globally) absolutely and incontrovertibly debunks the narrative that A) this is deliberate and B) that it's being covered up.

The MSM in Europe absolutely would not shut up about this at the time, and ministers within multiple EU governments were asking all kinds of questions both from big pharma and from their own establishments. This was very much done in the open and it was very much in the news. So absolutely no coverup.

Yes they pulled out the vaccines as they are not safe and effective.

I don't think I have mentioned any cover up.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

3 deaths per million infections in the 0-19 age group. 3 deaths per 100,000 infections in the 20-29 age group and around 1 death per 10,000 infections in the 30-39 age group. I believe that the numbers are self explanatory. And I am adding that if you don't have any underlying health issues the chances are effectively zero in these groups.

And a 1.3 percent mortality seniors, increasing with comorbidity.

The primary reason to vax teens is to establish herd immunity, because waiting for them to be infected and gain natural immunity would take too long and would put other people at risk. Especially if new variants emerged.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Asmodeus3

3 deaths per million infections in the 0-19 age group. 3 deaths per 100,000 infections in the 20-29 age group and around 1 death per 10,000 infections in the 30-39 age group. I believe that the numbers are self explanatory. And I am adding that if you don't have any underlying health issues the chances are effectively zero in these groups.

And a 1.3 percent mortality seniors, increasing with comorbidity.

The primary reason to vax teens is to establish herd immunity, because waiting for them to be infected and gain natural immunity would take too long and would put other people at risk. Especially if new variants emerged.

What herd immunity are you talking about when transmission and infection are still going on at a fast pace and especially with the new variants. And even if you are getting vaccinated you will still be infected sometime if you haven't been infected by now. Vaccines don't prevent transmission and infection, nor they reduce them as it seems significantly.

And Pfizer has moved with the speed of science. They didn't even have to check things...

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: fencesitter85
"100% it was because of the vaccine"

She is literally not qualified to state that. Awful tragedy - unseen congenital defects hit thousands of people per year.

Waiting on the coroners report.

If it comes back clean, my money is on the OP calling this a cover up.

So far the vax is on par with most modern vax when it comes to deaths. People do die after shots, but not enough to be depopulation. It's a fraction of a percent.

They pulled the astrazeneca vax in Europe after 15 deaths.

pharmanewsintel.com...

Yes countries have suspended the vaccine at that time as there were serious concerns in regards to its safety.

Non safe and effective in a few words.

The fact that they pulled it after 15 deaths (globally, not within the EU, globally) absolutely and incontrovertibly debunks the narrative that A) this is deliberate and B) that it's being covered up.

The MSM in Europe absolutely would not shut up about this at the time, and ministers within multiple EU governments were asking all kinds of questions both from big pharma and from their own establishments. This was very much done in the open and it was very much in the news. So absolutely no coverup.

Yes they pulled out the vaccines as they are not safe and effective.

I don't think I have mentioned any cover up.

It's not a question of whether there is a risk, it's a question of how the risk can be quantified.

For example, fewer than 1 in every 500,000 people who has the vax has any serious side effects (See links 2 and 8 in my signature), and the chance of death is still low for them. Maybe 0.15 per 100,00 or than 1 per 500,000. Think about that for a minute. That's a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent.

On the other hand, in 2021 over 2,000 people died after having been accidentally shot in the US. 150 of those deaths were caused by a child accidentally shooting someone with a gun that they're either found or been given to use by an adult to use (Link).

This is 4 percent of the total gun deaths for that year (Approximately 45,000).

Statistically, guns accidentally kill many more people in the US alone than the vax has in the entire world in the same period.

Conversely, in the US alone the vax is estimated to have prevented 140,000 deaths (link), while guns have saved approximately 1 person for every 34 killed (link).

By your own standard guns are safe nor effective, and kill more people than they save, and therefore we should restrict gun ownership.

Basic math.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Infected VS actually being sick.

Covid is a respiratory virus, it can survive in the mucus in your nose and throat, which counts as you being infected for statistical purposes, but if you have immunity covid is highly unlikely to make you seriously sick.

It's like having a USB disc in your pocket that has a computer virus on it. Yes, you technically own something with a virus, but it's not in your computer so it's not causing you any problems.

Now, supposed you have anti-virus on your computer, you still have that infected USB, but it's not going to infect your PC.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: fencesitter85
"100% it was because of the vaccine"

She is literally not qualified to state that. Awful tragedy - unseen congenital defects hit thousands of people per year.

Waiting on the coroners report.

If it comes back clean, my money is on the OP calling this a cover up.

So far the vax is on par with most modern vax when it comes to deaths. People do die after shots, but not enough to be depopulation. It's a fraction of a percent.

They pulled the astrazeneca vax in Europe after 15 deaths.

pharmanewsintel.com...

Yes countries have suspended the vaccine at that time as there were serious concerns in regards to its safety.

Non safe and effective in a few words.

The fact that they pulled it after 15 deaths (globally, not within the EU, globally) absolutely and incontrovertibly debunks the narrative that A) this is deliberate and B) that it's being covered up.

The MSM in Europe absolutely would not shut up about this at the time, and ministers within multiple EU governments were asking all kinds of questions both from big pharma and from their own establishments. This was very much done in the open and it was very much in the news. So absolutely no coverup.

Yes they pulled out the vaccines as they are not safe and effective.

I don't think I have mentioned any cover up.

It's not a question of whether there is a risk, it's a question of how the risk can be quantified.

For example, fewer than 1 in every 500,000 people who has the vax has any serious side effects (See links 2 and 8 in my signature), and the chance of death is still low for them. Maybe 0.15 per 100,00 or than 1 per 500,000. Think about that for a minute. That's a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent.

On the other hand, in 2021 over 2,000 people died after having been accidentally shot in the US. 150 of those deaths were caused by a child accidentally shooting someone with a gun that they're either found or been given to use by an adult to use (Link).

This is 4 percent of the total gun deaths for that year (Approximately 45,000).

Statistically, guns accidentally kill many more people in the US alone than the vax has in the entire world in the same period.

Conversely, in the US alone the vax is estimated to have prevented 140,000 deaths (link), while guns have saved approximately 1 person for every 34 killed (link).

By your own standard guns are safe nor effective, and kill more people than they save, and therefore we should restrict gun ownership.

Basic math.

Your numbers just show that a very large part of the population, chlidren, teenagers, young adults and even middle-age individuals, have tiny risk of getting seriously sick or die from Covid.

The parallels you have drawn are not great but any measures.

What the numbers show is that Covid isn't an issue for most people.

You seem to be lumping all age groups together and draw conclusions based on some links you have provided. But these conclusions in order to be drawn there needs to be independent analysis for each specific group and not propagation of the narrative which nobody believes anymore.

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: kittywrangler
a reply to: Overseeall

i find it laughably ignorant when another adult wants to act like they know a child better than their parent(s). a parent being with a child throughout their development certainly qualifies a parent's opinion.

A parents opinion does not overrule medical diagnostics. Or is that not right?

A parent's opinion takes into consideration medical diagnostics.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Your numbers just show that a very large part of the population, chlidren, teenagers, young adults and even middle-age individuals, have tiny risk of getting seriously sick or die from Covid.

Which has been public knowledge since 2020, most covid deaths are in the 80+ age range.

The parallels you have drawn are not great but any measures.

If you want to look at a harm to risk ratio, it's a pretty obvious parallel to make. Guns kill more people by accident than the vax, and have saver fewer lives than the vax, yet you support one and oppose the other.

But these conclusions in order to be drawn there needs to be independent analysis for each specific group

See the links in my signature from the British ONS.

propagation of the narrative which nobody believes anymore.

The narrative that you seem to think exists doesn't seem to match up with what is being said at either the state or the federal level.

One of the problems that we're seeing today is that a lot of people aren't getting their information from official sources, they're getting their information from pundits telling them what the official sources are supposedly saying, but often putting a political slant on it.

In short, the "narrative" that you think exists isn't the official narrative, it's the narrative of whichever bltchute video or podcast, or news service you choose to access is telling you the other side has.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Your numbers just show that a very large part of the population, chlidren, teenagers, young adults and even middle-age individuals, have tiny risk of getting seriously sick or die from Covid.

Which has been public knowledge since 2020, most covid deaths are in the 80+ age range.

The parallels you have drawn are not great but any measures.

If you want to look at a harm to risk ratio, it's a pretty obvious parallel to make. Guns kill more people by accident than the vax, and have saver fewer lives than the vax, yet you support one and oppose the other.

But these conclusions in order to be drawn there needs to be independent analysis for each specific group

See the links in my signature from the British ONS.

propagation of the narrative which nobody believes anymore.

The narrative that you seem to think exists doesn't seem to match up with what is being said at either the state or the federal level.

One of the problems that we're seeing today is that a lot of people aren't getting their information from official sources, they're getting their information from pundits telling them what the official sources are supposedly saying, but often putting a political slant on it.

In short, the "narrative" that you think exists isn't the official narrative, it's the narrative of whichever bltchute video or podcast, or news service you choose to access is telling you the other side has.

Official sources and pharmaceutical sources cannot be trusted. They are known to have lied numerous times and they have propagated a climate of fear, hysteria, and paranoia as well as film and gloom scenarios in order to get as many as possible vaccinated, for political, ideological, and financial purposes.

Its sad to see young people either get injured or die as a result of an untested product that has been promoted as a vaccine by changing the definition of what the vaccine is.

The podcast and bitchute comment hardly is a good and valid claim.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Given that both the government and Big Pharma have spent the last 2 years saying that covid has an extremely small mortality rate, that it mostly kills the elderly and those with comodbidity, what is it that you think they are lying about?

Yes, some people are harmed by the vax, but for most people it's just a sore arm, and a bit of a funny head. You have maybe a 0.02 percent chance of palpitations and breathlessness, and a 0.002 percent of more serious heart inflammation. The risks are lower than from covid itself.

And source on that changing the definition. They didn't do that here.

What are the odds that...

All vax batches were placebo and the masses are fighting amongst each other while the real reason for increased deaths goes unnoticed (gmos, chemtrails, 5G, etc..)

The mind is a very powerful thing and this well timed psyop from both sides could have folks making themselves sick out of fear and/or exacerbating their already existing comorbidities (doesnt explain deaths of young athletes, so perhaps vax or other scenarios are at play)

Nonetheless, seems like a purposefully timed distraction while allowing TPTB to amass more power as society is converted into a more heavily digital prison

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Given that both the government and Big Pharma have spent the last 2 years saying that covid has an extremely small mortality rate, that it mostly kills the elderly and those with comodbidity, what is it that you think they are lying about?

Yes, some people are harmed by the vax, but for most people it's just a sore arm, and a bit of a funny head. You have maybe a 0.02 percent chance of palpitations and breathlessness, and a 0.002 percent of more serious heart inflammation. The risks are lower than from covid itself.

And source on that changing the definition. They didn't do that here.

Your claim that the risks from the vaccine are lower than the risks from Covid is dogmatic. It doesn't take into account different age groups and lumps everything together. Hardly a scientific approach.

The MSM and Government spent the last 2-3 years terrorising their citizens and promoting fear, hysteria and paranoia. Unless you have lived in a different world.

apnews.com...

Experts say changes to CDC’s vaccination definition are normal

Here is the admission that there are changes to the definition of what a vaccine is. Experts say it's 'normal'... If you don't have a proper vaccine you change the definition to what a vaccine is...

I think you are either misinformed or you propagate some misinformation yourself. Have you lived somewhere else?

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Have you read the results from the autopsy yet?

originally posted by: WIKDHOTSNOMAN
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

18 yr old kids have a 5 star immune system.

Why was 3 doses of a vaccine in such a short time frame necessary?

I'll tell you why.

Non-stop badgering with mandates and fear being pushed by school administrations.

Non-stop badgering with mandates and fear being pushed by local and federal governments.

Non-stop badgering with mandates and fear being pushed by the media.

The whole of this campaign relied heavily on fear, hysteria, paranoia, misinformation and disinformation. All state sponsored but with the help of the private sector. The most ludicrous campaign ever.

Those who fell into the trap need to reflect as to avoid the same mistakes in the future.

This is still an ongoing matter and as time passes more and more will come out exposing the scandalous practises and as one Italian member of the Parliament said: the greatest medical scandal in history.

I am waiting to hear about these 'stealth' deaths that have no cause as it seems. Or the cause has been determined to be mysterious...A 'mystery'....

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Your claim that the risks from the vaccine are lower than the risks from Covid is dogmatic.

The science confirms this. See link 2 and 8 in my signature for the data on vaccine side effect, and this link for covid (Lin k)

It doesn't take into account different age groups

We were specifically talking about young people, so I gave you the data for young people. If you want the data for older people you're going to need to be absolutely specific about the age group because I'm pretty sure that you're just going to try to change the topic into an argument over some other age group. So, be exact because I'm only going to give you what you say you want.

The MSM and Government spent the last 2-3 years terrorising their citizens and promoting fear, hysteria and paranoia.

And you're doing the exact same thing in regards to the vax, so I guess you deserve each other.

Here is the admission that there are changes to the definition of what a vaccine is.

Before and after, please.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

But aren't you doing the exact same thing by claiming that the vax is killing people?

I am waiting to hear about these 'stealth' deaths that have no cause as it seems. Or the cause has been determined to be mysterious...A 'mystery'....

Most of the time people kick up a big stink but don't hang around to hear the answer, or when the answer comes it's not widely publicized because "teen dies of something perfectly ordinary" doesn't sell papers.

Every year thousands of young people die from sudden heart attacks. It's "normal", but not particularly common (Link.

It seems like it's mostly young athletes because 1) Young athletes dying on the field or during training tend to get their names in the paper more than people who die doing yard chores because it's seen as more tragic or more shocking, and 2) they put their hearts under more stress than ordinary people so if they do have a heart defect, they're more likely to experience it young. The non-athletics ones have the heart attacks when they're older and less fit, and it's considered "normal".

If you want more information you're going to need to give me the names of these "stealth" people and preferably the date of their death. I can't give you answers without knowing who to look for.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: frogs453
Do a quick search and pick a year. Here's 2019. This is just the first few headlines.

Before Covid and vaccinations

Former Miss Teen Universe dies at 19 after 'sudden cardiac arrest.

A 17-Year-Old Girl Has Died
Teen cheerleader's sudden death

Indiana boy, 17, died.

Pennsylvania teen, 13, dies after sudden cardiac arrest.

Vigil held for Langley teen who died suddenly.

A 29-year-old dies in his sleep.

Anton Black case: Autopsy shows teen died of sudden cardiac death

Yep, they're going to be altering historic search results to make it seem normal as well. They're already controlling and manipulating every aspect of it.

Absolute codswallop. Sudden cardiac deaths have been around for a long time and we still have no explanation for them. My brother in law lost a good friend of his 40 years ago, no explanation whatsoever.
No-one is altering anything.

The level of paranoia, anti-vaccine hysteria and general silliness on this thread is truly remarkable. And worrying.