Mom Of Dead 18 Year Old Vows To Make It Her Life's Mission - "100% Because of the [Vaccine]"

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I have made more or less the same case in a couple different forums I frequent...

If it is as you say, and as I believe, that the powers that be have sold out to the dark side and knew very well what these vaxxines would do to people, the seemingly compulsive desire of some to blame all these deaths on anything but the vaxx gives them cover.

To quote the mad prophet of the airwaves, Howard Beale:" This is mass madness you Maniacs!"

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I have made more or less the same case in a couple different forums I frequent...

If it is as you say, and as I believe, that the powers that be have sold out to the dark side and knew very well what these vaxxines would do to people, the seemingly compulsive desire of some to blame all these deaths on anything but the vaxx gives them cover.

To quote the mad prophet of the airwaves, Howard Beale:" This is mass madness you Maniacs!"

The main issue is that do you trust whatever emenates from the establishment? They are already known to be lying and hiding the truth on numerous occasions. Or even moving with the sired of science and didn't have the time to check the results...

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: carewemust

Fine.

But I thought we'd all be dropping like flies from the doom porn?

Anyone dies these days and it must be the vaxx?

Come on.

Flame away.

Strange how people with your opinion never questioned any covid death reported, yet you lot question every vaxx death.
Bias much?

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: carewemust

Fine.

But I thought we'd all be dropping like flies from the doom porn?

Anyone dies these days and it must be the vaxx?

Come on.

Flame away.

Strange how people with your opinion never questioned any covid death reported, yet you lot question every vaxx death.
Bias much?

It is called a biased approach motivated by personal beliefs and plenty of vaccine ideology.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

FYI, coroner had not yet ruled on this.

I'm perfectly willing to accept that someone died after getting vaxxed, as people die from the flu shot every year, and there are several dozen confirmed vax deaths already.

BUT what we have here is simply the mother's claim. I'm going to wait on the coroners report before claiming that this is or isn't related as there simply isn't enough information yet. The fact that an 18 year old has had 3 shots in such a short space of time is a little unusual. So there may be more to this than we're being told.

Of course, I expect the OP to post a retraction if this is determined to be due to some other cause.

Bookmarking thread now.

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a reply to: Hecate666

We did, we said that it wasn't credible to count people as having died from covid purely because they had it prior to death.

We said that this was distorting the figures and made reliable data much more difficult to find.

We kick up such a storm about it that many state and national governments were forced to change their reporting methodology.

We successfully lobbied to change the system.

And you... Posted about people glowing in the dark?

a reply to: Asmodeus3

What's the psychological condition where women become co dependent on their abusers called??

Girl gets beat: "He's just stressed out, he didn't mean to." He does it again, she forgives him:" He was just having a bad day, he didn't mean to." It usually escalates to where she ends up beaten half to death, and many times, the absused is still trying to give the abuser the benefit of the doubt.

Another way to look at it: We have all known someone that is a straight up liar. With some people, it takes awhile to catch on, but once you do you pretty much know that the majority of, if not all that is coming out of that persons' mouth is bull****, and they are not to be trusted in even the smallest of things.

Now superimpose the common sense applied to individual relationships with such people over the current situation and whether or not we should trust the .gov or any of it's multi letter appendages and agencies. Some are basically saying of these so called authorities: "I know that guy has lied to me about a million times, but I will still trust what he has to say, and base my world view on it."

Good luck with that approach. My thing is that if the media, the government, or politicians are saying it's good, it's probably not. If they say it's up, it's most likely down. If they say it's light, it's gonna bring darkness.

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: Asmodeus3

What's the psychological condition where women become co dependent on their abusers called??

Girl gets beat: "He's just stressed out, he didn't mean to." He does it again, she forgives him:" He was just having a bad day, he didn't mean to." It usually escalates to where she ends up beaten half to death, and many times, the absused is still trying to give the abuser the benefit of the doubt.

Another way to look at it: We have all known someone that is a straight up liar. With some people, it takes awhile to catch on, but once you do you pretty much know that the majority of, if not all that is coming out of that persons' mouth is bull****, and they are not to be trusted in even the smallest of things.

Now superimpose the common sense applied to individual relationships with such people over the current situation and whether or not we should trust the .gov or any of it's multi letter appendages and agencies. Some are basically saying of these so called authorities: "I know that guy has lied to me about a million times, but I will still trust what he has to say, and base my world view on it."

Good luck with that approach. My thing is that if the media, the government, or politicians are saying it's good, it's probably not. If they say it's up, it's most likely down. If they say it's light, it's gonna bring darkness.

With all that happened in the last three years someone must be either naive or foolish or both of they still have trust on whatever emanates from the official line. Even if it's correct!! That's the most important from all. They are unreliable and non credible. And the sooner this gets to people the better for all of us.

If the autopsy shows that she did due due to vaccine complications then this will be recorded as a vaccine death.

If the autopsy shows something else then everyone from those involved will be asking independent autopsies and verifications.

My money is on they will record it as natural causes. The Mother will need to go down the route of asking for an independent autopsy. But who do you trust to do the autopsies, Who has not been bought off/corrupted by big pharma?

The Woman and other families in her position need crowdfunding. Your normal joe can't afford to fight these people. They will lie through their back teeth to protect their arses, employers and bank accounts.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

FYI, coroner had not yet ruled on this.

I'm perfectly willing to accept that someone died after getting vaxxed, as people die from the flu shot every year, and there are several dozen confirmed vax deaths already.

BUT what we have here is simply the mother's claim. I'm going to wait on the coroners report before claiming that this is or isn't related as there simply isn't enough information yet. The fact that an 18 year old has had 3 shots in such a short space of time is a little unusual. So there may be more to this than we're being told.

Of course, I expect the OP to post a retraction if this is determined to be due to some other cause.

Bookmarking thread now.

I agree, until autopsy results are released this is a complete unknown and a grieving mother looking for answers anywhere she can find them. Whats sad is people taking advantage of this situation to push ant-vax propaganda purposes.

Maybe members posting to this thread should also look up the stages of grief and how it effects people.

originally posted by: Kurokage

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

FYI, coroner had not yet ruled on this.

I'm perfectly willing to accept that someone died after getting vaxxed, as people die from the flu shot every year, and there are several dozen confirmed vax deaths already.

BUT what we have here is simply the mother's claim. I'm going to wait on the coroners report before claiming that this is or isn't related as there simply isn't enough information yet. The fact that an 18 year old has had 3 shots in such a short space of time is a little unusual. So there may be more to this than we're being told.

Of course, I expect the OP to post a retraction if this is determined to be due to some other cause.

Bookmarking thread now.

I agree, until autopsy results are released this is a complete unknown and a grieving mother looking for answers anywhere she can find them. Whats sad is people taking advantage of this situation to push ant-vax propaganda purposes.

Maybe members posting to this thread should also look up the stages of grief and how it effects people.

You have forgotten that it is the mother who alleges her daughter has died from the covid vaccine. And hence the discussion around.

There is nothing wrong in criticising the untested and potentially hazardous vaccines. It's a good thing to be skeptical and not being a vaccine apologist or a lockdown advocate and/or denying the truth and reality.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have forgotten that it is the mother who alleges her daughter has died from the covid vaccine. And hence the discussion around.

I haven't forgotten anything and maybe you should re-read my post or are you trying to decide other people opinions again?!?!?!?!

As I said, the results to the autopsy haven't been released and a grieving Mother will understandably look for the smallest reason for the loss of a child.
The Gateway Pundit is jumping on this and using it unashamedly for anti-vax propaganda.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have forgotten that it is the mother who alleges her daughter has died from the covid vaccine. And hence the discussion around.

I haven't forgotten anything and maybe you should re-read my post or are you trying to decide other people opinions again?!?!?!?!

As I said, the results to the autopsy haven't been released and a grieving Mother will understandably look for the smallest reason for the loss of a child.
The Gateway Pundit is jumping on this and using it unashamedly for anti-vax propaganda.

I don't think you read what others say and you make up your own conclusions based on what you think is correct.

Nobody takes advantage of the situation here. There have been many recorded deaths under mysterious circumstances and we are suspicious of what the causes might be. It could be something else but it also could be the untested and potentially hazardous vaccines.

It's good to be against the vaccine ideology.

Anti or pro are political positions.
Every product is judged on its own merits. I suppose you haven't learnt this yet?

originally posted by: igloo

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: nugget1

Can't you get it through your noggin that some of us are not pro vaxxers, but anti doom porn BS?

No?

Coroner's know nothing?

More than you do, I think.

leave threads like this to those of us who are convinced those in authority over us are capable of extreme corruption and wish to consider information that may or may not eventually prove to have validity?

This is the part I find frustrating. Everyone here knows just how corrupt the system is so being skeptical of it should be logical.

Others might be sick of "doom porn" but how else do we put the pieces together where we have extreme corruption, leaders that are known to have joked about depopulation and emerging stats that point to the shots being not what they were sold as?

We are swamped with propaganda in the media, censored by most platforms so really ATS is one of the few this is able to be discussed on, yet we have some who treat it as sport to derail the discussions without bringing much new to it. Just because some of the stats are a little hard to pin down right now doesn't mean the posters are intentionally bringing misinformation. They are doing the best they can against the background of censorship. Dispute is fine, but the insults and derailing is really unfair. As is the obvious joy at disrupting the flow of conversation. If it's posted in the mud pit, that would be fair play. Otherwise, if it isn't your thing, you can scroll on.

i believe the above comment bears repeating. also, what is the #1 cause of death in Canada? (cause unknown) nothing to see there!

a reply to: kittywrangler

There has never been a time where "unknown cause of death" is the leading cause of death in any single country, let a lone several, until now.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Again, with you trying to decide my opinions??? This is a public forum. I think your obsession is unhealthy....

The Gateway Pundit is a right-wing anti-vax publication, who, like I previously said, have unashamedly used this for propaganda purposes.
Understandably anyone who loses someone close will look for reasons for a death, before they are given answers form something like an autopsy, which can take a while. Even more so a parent losing a child, they could devolop an irrational belief in an anti-vaccine ideology.
You should also maybe look up the stages of grief....

1 Denial
2 Anger
3 Bargaining
4 Depression
5 Acceptance

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Again, with you trying to decide my opinions??? This is a public forum. I think your obsession is unhealthy....

The Gateway Pundit is a right-wing anti-vax publication, who, like I previously said, have unashamedly used this for propaganda purposes.
Understandably anyone who loses someone close will look for reasons for a death, before they are given answers form something like an autopsy, which can take a while. Even more so a parent losing a child.
You should maybe look up the stages of grief....

1 Denial
2 Anger
3 Bargaining
4 Depression
5 Acceptance

I don't think i am trying to decide your opinions. I just say that your opinion is motivated by political ideologies.

Being right wing isn't a crime generally speaking. Being against a specific vaccine isn't a crime either.

Death due to the vaccine is a real possibility and not science fiction. Something the mother believes to be the case. But we need to see the results of the autopsy first.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

I don't think i am trying to decide your opinions. I just say that your opinion is motivated by political ideologies.

And your opinion isn't?!?!

Being right wing isn't a crime generally speaking. Being against a specific vaccine isn't a crime either.

I agree, but blindly following said ideology is also unhealthy.

The Gateway Pundit have unashamedly used this for propaganda purposes before any autopsy results have been published and is jumping the gun because of bias and is purely Doom Porn.
Death from any vaccine is always a very slim but real possabilty.

a reply to: Overseeall

her irrational beliefs

Prove she is irrational .
Bet you can't