Mom Of Dead 18 Year Old Vows To Make It Her Life's Mission - "100% Because of the [Vaccine]"

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I don't think i am trying to decide your opinions. I just say that your opinion is motivated by political ideologies.

And your opinion isn't?!?!

Being right wing isn't a crime generally speaking. Being against a specific vaccine isn't a crime either.

I agree, but blindly following said ideology is also unhealthy.

The Gateway Pundit have unashamedly used this for propaganda purposes before any autopsy results have been published and is jumping the gun because of bias and is purely Doom Porn.
Death from any vaccine is always a very slim but real possabilty.

No, my opinions are not motivated by politics but knowledge.

Yes, if one follows an ideology to argue about vaccines, for example the vaccine ideology that cannot be right.

I don't think the mother of this person who died is motivated ideologically.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Overseeall

her irrational beliefs

Prove she is irrational .
Bet you can't

Definitively claiming her beliefs are correct in the absence of evidence (eg. prior to autopsy). Sounds irrational to me, would you agree?

a reply to: Overseeall

i find it laughably ignorant when another adult wants to act like they know a child better than their parent(s). a parent being with a child throughout their development certainly qualifies a parent's opinion.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I don't think i am trying to decide your opinions. I just say that your opinion is motivated by political ideologies.

And your opinion isn't?!?!

Being right wing isn't a crime generally speaking. Being against a specific vaccine isn't a crime either.

I agree, but blindly following said ideology is also unhealthy.

The Gateway Pundit have unashamedly used this for propaganda purposes before any autopsy results have been published and is jumping the gun because of bias and is purely Doom Porn.
Death from any vaccine is always a very slim but real possabilty.

No, my opinions are not motivated by politics but knowledge.

Yes, if one follows an ideology to argue about vaccines, for example the vaccine ideology that cannot be right.

I don't think the mother of this person who died is motivated ideologically.

Your opinions are that, just your opinions, nothing more.

The anti-vax ideologists are the ones pushing the death of a young woman for propaganda purposes and with 12.87 billion doses already administered, and 2.03 million more a day, the death rate claims by anti-vax groups would be far more noticable than the claims made.

originally posted by: Kurokage

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I don't think i am trying to decide your opinions. I just say that your opinion is motivated by political ideologies.

And your opinion isn't?!?!

Being right wing isn't a crime generally speaking. Being against a specific vaccine isn't a crime either.

I agree, but blindly following said ideology is also unhealthy.

The Gateway Pundit have unashamedly used this for propaganda purposes before any autopsy results have been published and is jumping the gun because of bias and is purely Doom Porn.
Death from any vaccine is always a very slim but real possabilty.

No, my opinions are not motivated by politics but knowledge.

Yes, if one follows an ideology to argue about vaccines, for example the vaccine ideology that cannot be right.

I don't think the mother of this person who died is motivated ideologically.

Your opinions are that, just your opinions, nothing more.

The anti-vax ideologists are the ones pushing the death of a young woman for propaganda purposes and with 12.87 billion doses already administered, and 2.03 million more a day, the death rate claims by anti-vax groups would be far more noticable than the claims made.

Nope!

There are qualified and unqualified opinions.
Mine are qualified.

The paragraph you wrote is just word salad. If anything there is plenty of propaganda to vaccinate everyone and everything with these unpleasant and unsafe products.

Even if the autopsy reveals that the cause of death isn't the vaccine itself, tell me who on earth will trust anything that emenates from the establishment. I am sure the family will ask someone independent to perform the autopsy.

originally posted by: kittywrangler
a reply to: Overseeall

i find it laughably ignorant when another adult wants to act like they know a child better than their parent(s). a parent being with a child throughout their development certainly qualifies a parent's opinion.

A parents opinion does not overrule medical diagnostics. Or is that not right?

a reply to: Asmodeus3

What qualifications do you have?

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You really do like to make it personal and you shouldn't if you really are an adult here on ATS.

There are qualified and unqualified opinions.
Mine are qualified.

Thats your claim and nothing more my friend.
And unless you're willing to show the mods your supposed qualifications then anyone elses opinion is just as valid as yours.
There's more biased unqualified propaganda against the vaccine than for it and like I've stated its now more than 12.87 billion people vaxed and the dead aren't laying every where like some posters have commented, I mean it should be 40% of the UK dead by now.

Until the results of the girls autopsy are revealed then it's just anti-vaxers pushing more Doom Porn.

Why was a healthy 17-18 year old propagandised/manipulated into taking clot shots?

Zero increased protection with 100% greater chance of issues, with one issue being death.

A tad silly.

a reply to: Kurokage

No, but many are home sick.

For the first time in my 20 years working for this organization most of the leadership team is ill and the show is being run by the last men standing, myself and another unvaxed and one vaxed.

That’s out of 9 total so 66% are sick and they are mentioning the vaccine.

originally posted by: KurokageThere's more biased unqualified propaganda against the vaccine than for it and like I've stated its now more than 12.87 billion people vaxed and the dead aren't laying every where like some posters have commented, I mean it should be 40% of the UK dead by now.

Similarly, remember how everyone said Sweden was irresponsible for not going into lockdown during the hoax, and how they would be hit hard and bodies would be piling up in the streets?

Didn't happen at all. The UK had more than 6x the amount of deaths than they did.

Weird..

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

Seriously?!!!!

It all reminds me of discussions about aliens when it is asked why are there no aliens if they are here, and of course the convenient reply is "Goverment coverup". Seems to be the go to answer when reality doesn't add up to one's perception.

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

Some of that is down to the new strains/variants of covid, which to some is far more severe than just a simple cold as some claim and a more serious flu.
For us here in the UK its the Omicron variant thats dominant.
UK.Gov

The latest UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) COVID-19 variant technical briefing, published today, includes updated epidemiological analysis which indicates that Omicron BA.5 has, as expected, become the dominant SARS-CoV-2 variant in the UK.

An estimated 78.7% of confirmed cases in England are BA.5 which was first identified in April and was designated as a Variant of Concern on 18 May.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You really do like to make it personal and you shouldn't if you really are an adult here on ATS.

There are qualified and unqualified opinions.
Mine are qualified.

Thats your claim and nothing more my friend.
And unless you're willing to show the mods your supposed qualifications then anyone elses opinion is just as valid as yours.
There's more biased unqualified propaganda against the vaccine than for it and like I've stated its now more than 12.87 billion people vaxed and the dead aren't laying every where like some posters have commented, I mean it should be 40% of the UK dead by now.

Until the results of the girls autopsy are revealed then it's just anti-vaxers pushing more Doom Porn.

This is a complex subject that goes beyond the statistics due to the shots being coerced on the public worldwide while still under experimental status. Factor in pfizer trying to hide their trial data for decades, the billions spent on advertising while the low rate of covid itself was out of whack with the vaccine push, plus the predicted push towards vaccine passports and digital id, the endless censorship and propaganda.

We know there is a rise in excess deaths due to government stats. That is the most important thing, not worrying that one particular claim is doom porn. We won't have an accurate measure until government is unleashed from whatever is censoring them at the moment but until then there are more and more reports coming out that the vaccines were not safe and effective. The denial over all of this will come to an end soon.

a reply to: igloo

It is a complex situation and subject, but the amount of Doom Porn propaganda isn't matching the statistics. There is no disputing that 12.87 billion people have been vaccinated and if it was as fatal as some suggest, we'd be seeing dead every where and not just stories of "my Brothers, Uncles, sons best mates Dad died from the vax"
All vaccines have side effects and some are worse than others.
If you take in consideration 12.8 billion people have been vaccinated, then if even 0.01% died from the side effects of the jab, that would still equate to 1,300,000 people and sadly some people have died from it.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: igloo

It is a complex situation and subject, but the amount of Doom Porn propaganda isn't matching the statistics. There is no disputing that 12.87 billion people have been vaccinated and if it was as fatal as some suggest, we'd be seeing dead every where and not just stories of "my Brothers, Uncles, sons best mates Dad died from the vax"
All vaccines have side effects and some are worse than others.
If you take in consideration 12.8 billion people have been vaccinated, then if even 0.01% died from the side effects of the jab, that would still equate to 1,300,000 people and sadly some people have died from it.

How can 12.87 billion people have been vaccinated when the population of the planet is around 8 billion...

Is this vaccine ideology mathematics?

What you call doom porn in this case has a much more simpler term and called hypothesis.

The mother of the person who who died is convinced that her daughter died from the Covid vaccine. She shouldn't be that certain but it would have been best if she made a simple hypothesis and waited to see the results of the autopsy.

originally posted by: baggy7981
Why was a healthy 17-18 year old propagandised/manipulated into taking clot shots?

A better question would be why did an 18 year old with no comorbidity have two shots and a booster in the first place?

As of the beginning of the month, only 5.3 percent of eligible people in the US were in this group, and teenagers with no comorbidity make up a tiny fraction of that. She's barely even considered a target demographic. This would put her in a group that measured in the fractions of a percentage.

Something smells here, and it's not that she's dead.

a reply to: igloo

Factor in pfizer trying to hide their trial data for decades,

Which isn't actually true.

What is true is that Pfizer were granted legal protection from people spamming them with FOIA requests. They don't have to tell you when you demand to know how many kids they killed, but they do have to tell academics and researchers with the relevant credentials what the juvenile mortality rate per 100,000 is.

Pfizer can't hide anything, they have to release all available data within the specified time period.

originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: kittywrangler
a reply to: Overseeall

i find it laughably ignorant when another adult wants to act like they know a child better than their parent(s). a parent being with a child throughout their development certainly qualifies a parent's opinion.

A parents opinion does not overrule medical diagnostics. Or is that not right?

Why would it? It would take a pretty special parent not to want the best outcomes for their offspring.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Hecate666

We did, we said that it wasn't credible to count people as having died from covid purely because they had it prior to death.

We said that this was distorting the figures and made reliable data much more difficult to find.

We kick up such a storm about it that many state and national governments were forced to change their reporting methodology.

We successfully lobbied to change the system.

And you... Posted about people glowing in the dark?

No you didn't. You lot were so scared and believed in this hoax so much you let a government inject you with an untested trial drug which is working in a never before used way.

I'd rather stick needles in my eye than being this scared.
In the end, my blood is still pure and I don't need to worry about the things happening in my body, caused by this useless gene therapy.
You are still so scared of this cold that you keep harping on how brilliant the jab is.
I don't really trust your opinion for even one tiny bit because of that.
Don't back pedal. You were scared, you believed the hype, you took the poison. I didn't.