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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Asmodeus3
The tide is turning this cardiologist seems to think that it is to be blamed for all the sudden deaths. twitter.com... 4MsQEjW5MP4
Results: In the non-elderly population the “number needed to treat” to prevent a single death runs into the thousands. Re-analysis of randomised controlled trials using the messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) technology suggests a greater risk of serious adverse events from the vaccines than being hospitalised from COVID-19. Pharmacovigilance systems and real-world safety data, coupled with plausible mechanisms of harm, are deeply concerning, especially in relation to cardiovascular safety. Mirroring a potential signal from the Pfizer Phase 3 trial, a significant rise in cardiac arrest calls to ambulances in England was seen in 2021, with similar data emerging from Israel in the 16–39-year-old age group.
Conclusion: It cannot be said that the consent to receive these agents was fully informed, as is required ethically and legally. A pause and reappraisal of global vaccination policies for COVID-19 is long overdue.
.....safe and effective....
Nothing you said here has ever been true in the history of mankind.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
Fake news. It probably has gone up some, because now we're looking for it. But if you've ever had a cold, there's a solid chance that you've had myocarditis.
Vaccines cause it in about 1 in every 100,000 people, and statistically 100% of them recover in a couple weeks.
I have myocarditis from the first Pfizer vaccine. Anyone telling you it’s inconsequential and over in a couple of weeks does not know what they are talking about. It’s been 14 months since my Pfizer jab and the symptoms persist to this day. The only thing that has changed is my ability to deal with it as it has become my new normal. The incidence of myocarditis are way higher than reported too imo. My small little office of 13 had 2 of us. Instances throughout my family and friends of family. The rate is alarming imo.
originally posted by: whyamIhere
When I read these threads It is difficult to get to the truth.
I just wonder why it seems healthy people are dying at record rates.
I know a couple people that swear the Vax f’ed them up.
Tell me my lying eyes are wrong.
I and my wife never took it.
We both were threatened with dismissal.
We were subjected to testing every week.
Having to wear a wristband that identifies our status.
Having my entire Vax history openly discussed by co-workers.
Still, nobody has attempted to make this right.
Lawyers ?
Lmao, nope, excess mortality is up 25-40% and is unrelated to Covid. Swing and a miss. When are joining everyone else in 2022?
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: whyamIhere
When I read these threads It is difficult to get to the truth.
I just wonder why it seems healthy people are dying at record rates.
When you look at the ages and demographics across the population as a whole what we're seeing isn't young people dropping dead unexpectedly, it's elderly people and people with comorbidity catch covid and get over it, but who don't fully recover. They then die some time later something age related or of their comorbidity, because covid has weakened them.
Link
There's also a trend to increased morbidity among under 50s. This is mostly due to poverty and includes suicide, drugs, alcohol, and poor diet, and began a years before covid.
Here's a study from 2013 link
I actually don’t believe you. The only way this is even possible is if they are delivering different batches to different places at different times, oh #, wait, they are. I know plenty of ppl with reactions. Two that developed shingles within 24 hours.
originally posted by: hombero
Damn and I'm still fine and know nobody that had any side effects. Guess I'm just lucky eh
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: whiteblack
a reply to: AaarghZombies
.....safe and effective....
No and No
originally posted by: macaronicaesar
Lmao, nope, excess mortality is up 25-40% and is unrelated to Covid. Swing and a miss. When are joining everyone else in 2022?
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: whyamIhere
When I read these threads It is difficult to get to the truth.
I just wonder why it seems healthy people are dying at record rates.
When you look at the ages and demographics across the population as a whole what we're seeing isn't young people dropping dead unexpectedly, it's elderly people and people with comorbidity catch covid and get over it, but who don't fully recover. They then die some time later something age related or of their comorbidity, because covid has weakened them.
Link
There's also a trend to increased morbidity among under 50s. This is mostly due to poverty and includes suicide, drugs, alcohol, and poor diet, and began a years before covid.
Here's a study from 2013 link
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Sources in my signature conclusively prove this.
I have Irrefutable hard data.
And you have....?
Our estimate shows that university Covid-19 vaccine mandates are likely to cause net expected harms to young healthy adults—between 18 and 98 serious adverse events requiring hospitalisation and 1373 to 3234 disruptions of daily activities—that is not outweighed by a proportionate public health benefit. Serious Covid-19 vaccine-associated harms are not adequately compensated for by current US vaccine injury systems. As such, these severe infringements of individual liberty are ethically unjustifiable.
originally posted by: More1ThanAny1
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Sources in my signature conclusively prove this.
I have Irrefutable hard data.
And you have....?
You should probably update your sources. It seems all but 1 or 2 are from 2021. A lot has been uncovered since then.
I appreciate your last link, the most up-to-date source, Link 8 from September 2022.
Link:
Link 8
PDF:
Link 8 - PDF
Our estimate shows that university Covid-19 vaccine mandates are likely to cause net expected harms to young healthy adults—between 18 and 98 serious adverse events requiring hospitalisation and 1373 to 3234 disruptions of daily activities—that is not outweighed by a proportionate public health benefit. Serious Covid-19 vaccine-associated harms are not adequately compensated for by current US vaccine injury systems. As such, these severe infringements of individual liberty are ethically unjustifiable.
Your source refutes your statement that vaccines are safe and effective. It outright says they harm healthy college age adults.
originally posted by: Notabot12345666
a reply to: AaarghZombies
If there was any justice in this world you would be doxxed and hunted. You are pure evil.
It outright says they harm healthy college age adults.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: whiteblack
a reply to: AaarghZombies
.....safe and effective....
No and No
Sources in my signature conclusively prove this.
I have Irrefutable hard data.
And you have....?
Our estimate shows that university Covid-19 vaccine mandates are likely to cause net expected harms to young healthy adults—between 18 and 98 serious adverse events requiring hospitalisation and 1373 to 3234 disruptions of daily activities—that is not outweighed by a proportionate public health benefit. Serious Covid-19 vaccine-associated harms are not adequately compensated for by current US vaccine injury systems. As such, these severe infringements of individual liberty are ethically
Here is why my argument seems to correct and take a look at paragraph 1 and 3 of the text. Explicitly presenting your paragraphs
originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3
You need to practice what you preach then.
You list papers, articles, news articles and videos as your "evidence" and tell people to look at them.
I look forwards to make sure you apply your own standards to all future posts.