They paid people to shame and insult the unvaxxed...

a reply to: Asmodeus3

That doesn't really address my point?

I'm a lifelong Tory voter and not remotely on the left.

Mind you, after the shambles of Boris and now the absolute disaster of Truss, I'm nowadays more of a 'NONE OF THE ABOVE" bloke.

Yet I have been called a "Socialist" and a "lefty" on this thread.

Quite why, I have no idea.

Now that is "labeling", and totally false at that.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have still not explained what this left wing activism is all supposedly about.

Given that you have accused me personally of it at least a dozen times I think its only fair you share what exactly it is that I and others are supposedly doing.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

That doesn't really address my point?

I'm a lifelong Tory voter and not remotely on the left.

Mind you, after the shambles of Boris and now the absolute disaster of Truss, I'm nowadays more of a 'NONE OF THE ABOVE" bloke.

Yet I have been called a "Socialist" and a "lefty" on this thread.

Quite why, I have no idea.

Now that is "labeling", and totally false at that.

It does when you blend politics with science.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You do realize that we have had a Tory Govt here for ages and all thru COVID?

Where is the Socialism?

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have still not explained what this left wing activism is all supposedly about.

Given that you have accused me personally of it at least a dozen times I think its only fair you share what exactly it is that I and others are supposedly doing.

I believe you know.
Blending politics with science is a major issue. Just as the left wing tries to do by vaxxing everyone and everything for the greater good. They are involved quite a lot in shaming others who are their political opponents, the 'anti-vaxxers' and they are engaged in some bizzare ideologies. The vaccine ideology is one of them.

The green ideology is another one. The climate change ideology is also one they favour a lot.
But my favourite one which makes my day is the following: I am a woman because I identify as a woman!
Commonly known as the transgender ideology.
Super!

I have created an entire thread on it.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You do realize that we have had a Tory Govt here for ages and all thru COVID?

Where is the Socialism?

Strawman

a reply to: Asmodeus3

I can only speak for the UK, are you suggesting that Boris was left wing?

a reply to: Asmodeus3

"Straw man"?

How?

Where are the lefty Socialists here doing any such thing during a right wing Tory Govts rule?

I am really quite confused now.

So what you are saying is that wanting to vaccinate everyone in a pandemic is "left wing activism"?

I'm pretty sure that The President of the United states who initiated the vaccine rollout was Donald Trump the Republican and in the UK it was Boris Johnson and the Conservative party (that's the right wig one in the UK by the way, labour are the "lefties") that was Prime minister here in the UK.

As to your other comments I'll leave them well alone as any rational person would do.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have still not explained what this left wing activism is all supposedly about.

Given that you have accused me personally of it at least a dozen times I think its only fair you share what exactly it is that I and others are supposedly doing.

I believe you know.
Blending politics with science is a major issue. Just as the left wing tries to do by vaxxing everyone and everything for the greater good. They are involved quite a lot in shaming others who are their political opponents, the 'anti-vaxxers' and they are engaged in some bizzare ideologies. The vaccine ideology is one of them.

The green ideology is another one. The climate change ideology is also one they favour a lot.
But my favourite one which makes my day is the following: I am a woman because I identify as a woman!
Commonly known as the transgender ideology.
Super!

I have created an entire thread on it.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

It was that pair of well known loony lefties Boris Johnson and Donald Trump that rolled out the vaccines you know.....

originally posted by: nonspecific
I am really quite confused now.

So what you are saying is that wanting to vaccinate everyone in a pandemic is "left wing activism"?

I'm pretty sure that The President of the United states who initiated the vaccine rollout was Donald Trump the Republican and in the UK it was Boris Johnson and the Conservative party (that's the right wig one in the UK by the way, labour are the "lefties") that was Prime minister here in the UK.

As to your other comments I'll leave them well alone as any rational person would do.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have still not explained what this left wing activism is all supposedly about.

Given that you have accused me personally of it at least a dozen times I think its only fair you share what exactly it is that I and others are supposedly doing.

I believe you know.
Blending politics with science is a major issue. Just as the left wing tries to do by vaxxing everyone and everything for the greater good. They are involved quite a lot in shaming others who are their political opponents, the 'anti-vaxxers' and they are engaged in some bizzare ideologies. The vaccine ideology is one of them.

The green ideology is another one. The climate change ideology is also one they favour a lot.
But my favourite one which makes my day is the following: I am a woman because I identify as a woman!
Commonly known as the transgender ideology.
Super!

I have created an entire thread on it.

It looks like you have confused the arguments for once more and going from strawman to strawman.
But the main point is that shaming others isn't good. That's what you need to keep.
If you want to discuss politics there are other threads.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MaxxAction

Where was any shaming of the unvaxxed in all that?

Try these:
nypost.com...

www.cnn.com...

www.foxnews.com...

originally posted by: nonspecific
I am really quite confused now.

So what you are saying is that wanting to vaccinate everyone in a pandemic is "left wing activism"?

I'm pretty sure that The President of the United states who initiated the vaccine rollout was Donald Trump the Republican and in the UK it was Boris Johnson and the Conservative party (that's the right wig one in the UK by the way, labour are the "lefties") that was Prime minister here in the UK.

As to your other comments I'll leave them well alone as any rational person would do.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You have still not explained what this left wing activism is all supposedly about.

Given that you have accused me personally of it at least a dozen times I think its only fair you share what exactly it is that I and others are supposedly doing.

I believe you know.
Blending politics with science is a major issue. Just as the left wing tries to do by vaxxing everyone and everything for the greater good. They are involved quite a lot in shaming others who are their political opponents, the 'anti-vaxxers' and they are engaged in some bizzare ideologies. The vaccine ideology is one of them.

The green ideology is another one. The climate change ideology is also one they favour a lot.
But my favourite one which makes my day is the following: I am a woman because I identify as a woman!
Commonly known as the transgender ideology.
Super!

I have created an entire thread on it.

.
You can't deny that the left is engaged in shaming everyone in other parts of the political spectrum. They are engaged in the vaccine ideology, the climate change ideology and the transgender ideology. It's a fact.

But you seem to deny everything.

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

It was that pair of well known loony lefties Boris Johnson and Donald Trump that rolled out the vaccines you know.....

You have also confused the arguments again and you are going from strawman to strawman.
Let's agree that shaming others isn't good.
If you want to discuss politics then create a thread.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

I don't think anyone is saying that shaming people into anything is good are they?

Why do you keep talking yourself into a corner and then when questioned about your latest nonsensical statement just say strawman??

A strawman argument is a specific thing.

It's not some magic word you can say in a debate every time you say something dumb and don't want to admit it.

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I don't think anyone is saying that shaming people into anything is good are they?

Why do you keep talking yourself into a corner and then when questioned about your latest nonsensical statement just say strawman??

A strawman argument is a specific thing.

It's not some magic word you can say in a debate every time you say something dumb and don't want to admit it.

I am not the one who has been cornered if you haven't realised it from the conversations...

a reply to: Asmodeus3

It was your good self that made claims about left wing politics so how is asking you to clarify your claims "straw man"?

You said this:


"Blending politics with science is a major issue. Just as the left wing tries to do by vaxxing everyone and everything for the greater good. They are involved quite a lot in shaming others who are their political opponents, the 'anti-vaxxers' and they are engaged in some bizzare ideologies."

You aimed that reply to two UK posters who have queried your claims and asked you which lefties here have been "vaxxing everyone and everything"?

Is that not a fair question? Given your claims?

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

I don't think anyone is saying that shaming people into anything is good are they?

Why do you keep talking yourself into a corner and then when questioned about your latest nonsensical statement just say strawman??

A strawman argument is a specific thing.

It's not some magic word you can say in a debate every time you say something dumb and don't want to admit it.

Yes I know what a strawman is.

What is nonsensical? That the left is engaging in shaming others by calling them anti-vaxxers, granny killers, transphobic, climate deniers. I am sure many will agree with me.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It was your good self that made claims about left wing politics so how is asking you to clarify your claims "straw man"?

You said this:


"Blending politics with science is a major issue. Just as the left wing tries to do by vaxxing everyone and everything for the greater good. They are involved quite a lot in shaming others who are their political opponents, the 'anti-vaxxers' and they are engaged in some bizzare ideologies."

You aimed that reply to two UK posters who have queried your claims and asked you which lefties here have been "vaxxing everyone and everything"?

Is that not a fair question? Given your claims?

Yes the left wing activists and left wingers are usually the ones who want to vaxx everyone and everything in the name of the greater good. And accuse everyone else who doesn't follow their vaccine ideology as anti-vaxxer

a reply to: Asmodeus3

I'm sure they will but you are moving goal posts here.

Your claim was that it was lefties who were vaxxing everyone.

Please stick with that?