They paid people to shame and insult the unvaxxed...

originally posted by: Smokeygurl
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
It's not very helpful to use erroneous labels like "antivaxxers" in response.
Maybe everyone can at least quit with the hateful language??

Yeah , Healthy as Hell antivaxxers would seem more Appropriate to me ........)

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: Smokeygurl
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
It's not very helpful to use erroneous labels like "antivaxxers" in response.
Maybe everyone can at least quit with the hateful language??

Yeah , Healthy as Hell antivaxxers would seem more Appropriate to me ........)

It seems to boil to two distinct groups of people, and without using these two names in an intentionally derogatory manner, I call them simply, "Antivaxxers" and "Antisafeters." People in the "antivaxxer" group were, and are, concerned about safety. Those finding themselves in the group called "antisafeters" are against safety and safe vaccines. How else would you define the latter group except that they were okay with and pushed that the "vaccine" should be taken blindy, without full testing, and that other people should take it as well. What the antivaxxers concerns were didn't seem to matter to the antisafeters.

a reply to: TrulyColorBlind

" How else would you define the latter group except that they were okay with and pushed that the "vaccine" should be taken blindy, without full testing,..."


Well , being a Minimalist , I would Call them just Dumbasses ...........

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MaxxAction

Where was any shaming of the unvaxxed in all that?

Whaaaaaaaaaat?
You must have a really short memory.

You have to excuse me, as I am not an American, and so don't know of any shaming of anti-vaxxers that may have happened on US media.

However, I do appreciate that if there are insufficient numbers of people who partake in a vaccination campaign, then community resistance to the pathogen will not be sufficient for the campaign to be effective, and this will lead to unnecessary and preventable deaths.

But none of the published details in the OP were attempting to shame anyone.

I suspect that anti-vaxxers may be feeling guilty, and be interpreting a campaign in favor of vaccination, as shaming them.

Since you are from the UK and since it seems there are many members who are from the UK and also happen to be left wing or left wing activists here is an article from two academics from Oxford


Shaming Unvaccinated People Has To Stop. We’ve Turned Into An Angry Mob And It’s Getting Ugly

blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk...


It seems that shaming is true and it's happening in a large scale. In your country, the UK, and everywhere else. Not only the two academics admit there is shaming of the unvaccinated but they demand it stops immediately. And they use the word 'mob'...

I am not from the UK.

I am Australian citizen permanently resident in New Zealand.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: MaxxAction

Multifaceted plot that made this the 'holocaust' of the 21st century, so far...

I see through it and it makes me sick.

We knew they were coming for us, I just didn't expect it to be so widely accepted.

originally posted by: Smokeygurl
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
It's not very helpful to use erroneous labels like "antivaxxers" in response.
Maybe everyone can at least quit with the hateful language??

The language is used to stigmatise others SVD us politically driven. There is no such term as an anti-vaxxer. It's politically motivated.

There is indeed a lot of shaming for those who decided not to have the jabs regardless of the attempts by some members here to downplay this or even claim there was nothing much.

But you can use much more appropriate language for those who believe in the vaccine ideology. Vaccine ideologists or lockdown ideologists are commonly used to describe those who approach politicalize science. And vaccine apologists as the matter often becomes religious in nature.

There seems to be a lot of vaccine apologetics in many threads here.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MaxxAction

Where was any shaming of the unvaxxed in all that?

Whaaaaaaaaaat?
You must have a really short memory.

You have to excuse me, as I am not an American, and so don't know of any shaming of anti-vaxxers that may have happened on US media.

However, I do appreciate that if there are insufficient numbers of people who partake in a vaccination campaign, then community resistance to the pathogen will not be sufficient for the campaign to be effective, and this will lead to unnecessary and preventable deaths.

But none of the published details in the OP were attempting to shame anyone.

I suspect that anti-vaxxers may be feeling guilty, and be interpreting a campaign in favor of vaccination, as shaming them.

Since you are from the UK and since it seems there are many members who are from the UK and also happen to be left wing or left wing activists here is an article from two academics from Oxford


Shaming Unvaccinated People Has To Stop. We’ve Turned Into An Angry Mob And It’s Getting Ugly

blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk...


It seems that shaming is true and it's happening in a large scale. In your country, the UK, and everywhere else. Not only the two academics admit there is shaming of the unvaccinated but they demand it stops immediately. And they use the word 'mob'...

I am not from the UK.

I am Australian citizen permanently resident in New Zealand.

Ok. Good you clarified.

See my post above. Shaming seems to be very real and the two academics argue it must be stopped immediately.

And yet the mindset that was pushed so hard, it has cemented itself into the psyche of so many, as they proudly declare they have now taken the 4th shot or booster, despite falling ill from the shots, they keep doing it.
All this propaganda has created a whole new subset of people, vaccine shot sado masochists.

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: MaxxAction


Our whole experience is artificial these days, who needs virtual reality?

These days?
Humans have been manipulating each other since the dawn of time. Sadly.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

interesting studies on the use of nudge theory has ended up with people displaying intension not actual behaviour changes as we can see with only 4% being fully vaxed..

originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

interesting studies on the use of nudge theory has ended up with people displaying intension not actual behaviour changes as we can see with only 4% being fully vaxed..

Which is the group you are referring to? I am talking about the 4% being fully vaxxed.

originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: MaxxAction


Our whole experience is artificial these days, who needs virtual reality?

These days?
Humans have been manipulating each other since the dawn of time. Sadly.

And when was the dawn of the media?
hint
It started with 'The Three Stooges'
and devolved even from there, swiftly engulfing 'government'
and all who thirst for power.
Look no further than your neighbor
who collaborates with your police.
Which police kick your door down because they
have your facebook feed in a file.

They fester like maggots with every opportunity aka 'crisis' to 'manipulate'
(force you into ruin) with their orchestrated filth.
When it rains it rains on everyone, which explains
the whipsaw every time you encounter anyone who's been rained on,
the authoritarianism sleet, since it serves
to consolidate their ill gained power (our trust and attention)

well

Ed's always hankered after a Heated Swimming Pool
And now he's going to have one!

# 1635

a reply to: Asmodeus3

only 4% (usa) are fully vaxed the rest are either proud unvaxed or live on good intentions.. in other words its highly probable that those who claim to be boosted actually aren't unless they are vulnerable elderly..

when you delve into the numbers and the attempted psychological conditioning its really interesting to see how it failed on so many levels hence seeing the vaccine uptake start to invert itself..

in the uk 90m doses where given of the first 2 vaxs or a 90% uptake the next 3 are at 30m doses given or roughly 10% uptake.. data wise beyond the first 2 doses in the uk the granny killing narrative fell on its face.. now the grannie are the ones refusing the vaccine.. which is an ironic unintended consequence of using behaviour sciences in this way.

Fun facy I didnt give a # and never got vaxxed never got covid total bull#. I wont die because I didnt get vaxxed! # big pharma!!!

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Damn. And I've been doing it for free all this time.

Crazy isn't it some got payed for spreading misinformation and some just did it because they actually believed it. I guess the crow tastes the same either way, but probably goes down easier with a wad of cash in pocket.

a reply to: TrulyColorBlind

What about the "Anti Doom Porn BSers"?

Interesting that I and others get labelled provaxxers when a cursory glance at my posting history says otherwise.

a reply to: Smokeygurl

What is remotely hateful about the term antivaxxer?

What is hateful is accusing folk of being trolls, paid shills and lately "socialist"?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Smokeygurl

What is remotely hateful about the term antivaxxer?

What is hateful is accusing folk of being trolls, paid shills and lately "socialist"?

Shaming people who are not vaccinated with these unsafe and unknown products by Pfizer and co is just outrageous and unethical.

Stating that there are vaccine apologists who deny reality and facts isn't hateful. It's just an unfortunate fact. Likewise there are those who defend Pfizer and the other pharmaceutical companies.

Being left isn't a problem. Engaging in left wing activism to infect science with politics is morally criminal. Same when blending ideologies with science.

originally posted by: MaxxAction
(Cue Twilight Zone opening music) Imagine if you will, a vaccine so efficacious that you have to pay people to shame others into getting it.

Those gay men ought to be stripped of their medical licenses, outed, and shamed themselves.